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Originally Posted by
JohnMind101
Rotation with Chimpeon play with 2 Ice Lance charges
Ice Lance
delay
Ice Lance
Is Chimpeon casting something else during the delay?
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Originally Posted by
warble00
Is Chimpeon processing something else when you want it to cast Ice Lance? Is the toon casting something else?
Ovale is not ideal because it displays multiple icon boxes at one time. How many of those boxes are you using in your groups?
No. I'm using one box.
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Originally Posted by
JohnMind101
No. I'm using one box.
How long is the delay?
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Originally Posted by
JohnMind101
Chimpeon. How do I know? Say I have 2 charges of Ice Lance. The icon from the addon will remain on Ice Lance until I use all charges.
I have already changed the delay to 0 in Chimpeon.
Ah I see! The delay is likely caused by Chimpeon having to loop through all of its Groups before reaching the "Ice Lance" group again. The delay will be more apparent if you have lots of Groups OR if you have lots of Groups with Interupt enabled. Try Chimpeon with the Interupt setting disabled for all Groups except the Ice Lance Group. One of the Chimpeon developers explained how the Chimpeon loop works here and advises about the correct use of the Interupt setting...
Chimpeon 101 - Configuring Groups and Actions
JohnMind101: Can you post your Mage Chimpeon Configuration string here please so I can take a look?
Last edited by ChimpeonFan; 10-17-2016 at 10:28 AM.
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Originally Posted by
MarkoRapido
Try Chimpeon with the Interupt setting disabled for all Groups except the Ice Lance Group.
The way I understand how the groups work, setting Interrupt on one group is no different than making that group the first one. After processing that group it still loops through all the other groups.
Chimpeon needs a true priority option instead of just sequential.
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Originally Posted by
warble00
The way I understand how the groups work, setting Interrupt on one group is no different than making that group the first one. After processing that group it still loops through all the other groups.
Chimpeon needs a true priority option instead of just sequential.
Straight from the developer's mouth on how the loop works...
"The Group Loop loops from the first Group to the last, but, before each Group is checked, all the Groups marked as Interrupt are checked first."
If you're using a rotation addon, then the way Chimpeon checks Groups sequentially should be fine because it's the addon that is prioritising the best spell for Chimpeon to press (when Chimpeon detects the spell icon shown on screen).
Last edited by ChimpeonFan; 10-17-2016 at 10:56 AM.
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First of all hi everyone. I've been playing around with Chimpeon and the TMW demo lock profile but can't get it to work. I've set Chimp to XP SP3 compatibility mode, but all I get when I start it is my camera inside wow moving around like crazy. Also Chimp becomes very sluggish and slow to browse through groups and such. Using windows 10 pro x64.
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Originally Posted by
warble00
Chimpeon needs a true priority option instead of just sequential.
Weak Auras 2 has a true priority option, please do not change chimpeon.
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Originally Posted by
snapple38
Weak Auras 2 has a true priority option, please do not change chimpeon.
Indeed and agreed!!!
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Originally Posted by
nilrem2004
First of all hi everyone. I've been playing around with Chimpeon and the TMW demo lock profile but can't get it to work. I've set Chimp to XP SP3 compatibility mode, but all I get when I start it is my camera inside wow moving around like crazy. Also Chimp becomes very sluggish and slow to browse through groups and such. Using windows 10 pro x64.
Have you looked at the developer's Troubleshooting page (Crazy Fast Mouse Movement section) on how to rectify the problem and report it to the developer (they're very keen to fix this by all accounts so I suspect your help will be much appreciated)?... Chimpeon - Troubleshooting
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Originally Posted by
MarkoRapido
"The Group Loop loops from the first Group to the last, but, before each Group is checked, all the Groups marked as Interrupt are checked first."
Yeah, now that I'm more awake, I see that the Interrupt works better than I first thought.
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Originally Posted by
MarkoRapido
Ah I see! The delay is likely caused by Chimpeon having to loop through all of its Groups before reaching the "Ice Lance" group again. The delay will be more apparent if you have lots of Groups OR if you have lots of Groups with Interupt enabled. Try Chimpeon with the Interupt setting disabled for all Groups except the Ice Lance Group. One of the Chimpeon developers explained how the Chimpeon loop works here and advises about the correct use of the Interupt setting...
Chimpeon 101 - Configuring Groups and Actions
JohnMind101: Can you post your Mage Chimpeon Configuration string here please so I can take a look?
This one is my TellMeWhen string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This one is my Ovale string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I made two different ones so I didn't have to keep starting over from scratch when switching between the two.
The TellMeWhen addon seems to have issues.
1. Whenever I get 3 Ice Lance charges (Which shouldn't be happening if the addons rotation was optimal), the addon freezes on Frostbolt
2. After using a Flurry charge, you want to instantly Ice Lance even if you don't have a Ice Lance proc. TellMeWhen does this, however there is a MASSIVE delay with TellMeWhen displaying the Ice Lance icon after it used a Flurry charge..
Those two issues above are why I don't like using TellMeWhen.
Last edited by JohnMind101; 10-17-2016 at 11:13 AM.
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Originally Posted by
MarkoRapido
Have you looked at the developer's Troubleshooting page (Crazy Fast Mouse Movement section) on how to rectify the problem and report it to the developer (they're very keen to fix this by all accounts so I suspect your help will be much appreciated)?...
Chimpeon - Troubleshooting
I made chimpeon work and cast, just the mouse porblem to resolve now. I have checked their section about it but nothing helped. I will report it to them and maybe together we can find a fix for it.
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Originally Posted by
JohnMind101
This one is my TellMeWhen string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Your Chimpeon configuration that you use for TellMeWhen seems spot on and Ice Lance should be pressed by Chimpeon almost instantly when the TellMeWhen Ice Lance icon appears (because you have Interupt enabled for it). I guess the issue you mention with TellMeWhen is where the problem is and not Chimpeon.
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Originally Posted by
MarkoRapido
Your Chimpeon configuration that you use for TellMeWhen seems spot on and Ice Lance should be pressed by Chimpeon almost instantly when the TellMeWhen Ice Lance icon appears. I guess the issue you mention with TellMeWhen is where the problem is and not Chimpeon.
Right. And I noticed the delay between Ice Lances isn't that bad on TellMeWhen. However, those issues I mentioned are really ****ing over the DPS. I know nothing about TellMeWhen to try and fix the issues myself. So I have been trying to make Ovale work because the rotation that it does is flawless, but Ovale is the one that is producing noticeable delays between Ice Lance casts.
I can manually play 500,000 burst and 290,000 sustained on a target dummy. Chimpeon with either TMW or Ovale is only producing around 350,000 burst and 240,000 sustained. So something is wonky and I think it's the delay between Ice Lane casts.. But can't for the life of me figure out how to fix it for Ovale.. Like I said above, if TMW didn't have those dumb issues, it would work out very well I think.
Last edited by JohnMind101; 10-17-2016 at 11:26 AM.