WoWPlus - An advanced hacking/scripting suite for 5.0+ (working telehack & more!)

[therightemp]

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anyone know why?

[-Ryuk-]

hello. I am a SUBSCRIBER for wow+. my nickname in wow-plus.net is fertilizer, same as here.
please! I am asking you to just read this and make a fair decision!

someone in the wow+ chat said I was spamming,
I called him that I never spammed,
he continued,
i got upset and called him an a-hole,

this admin that starts with "who" banned me from the chat,
I told him that i was defending myself verbally,
"who" said something like "I make decisions",
this made me very upset and I used the F word against "who".

He banned me from the whole thing, even my PAID SUBSCRIBTION!
I am not rich like you, a few bucks is A LOT for me! I was expecting a ban from the community, but not from WHAT I PAID MONEY FOR!
this is totally unacceptable! please, I dont care about your community, just give me my product back which I have paid money for.
your admin, "who", power trips and takes away what I paid real money for. please, give me back the product, maybe I deserve a ban from the chat, but not to be robbed by your friend.

please, let me have my product which I paid real money for. this is literrally ROBBING! if he thinks I misbehaved in the chat, then i dont care! he does not have the right to ban me from using a program I paid for. you are the brain behind this, who else should I message to about this? obviously, i cant say anything to your powertripping friend

He has every right to ban you! If you swore at a staff member in a shop you would be kicked out, it's exactly the same principle here.

It's lose you as a customer or lose many others that feel the admins/shop manager are doing nothing about it!

Tdlr: learn to think before you speak.


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[Whoknowsit]

You should have only had an community/chat ban/time out.
But on the other hand, an admin should not have to take the F word from anyone.
But they should be mature enough to just be able to click "mute" and problem solved if its only a filthy mouth going on, It's just as effective.

But hope you get your paid time at least, or an refund unless it was like 3 days left of the paid time.

Thanks, im not going tbuy this product now, if you get banned like this (I was actually kinda looking at it, due to its features)
Not cause its a bad program, all features seams very nice, and I'm not the kind of type that would misbehave either.
But if I will not support it, if you get banned from the entire system for that small offence, which that could easily been solved with a very simple press on a mute button....
Naaaaa, sounds like admins with too little patience and loves the ban button to much in my ears. "I make decisions"

This was not a big thing/offence really, small and simple.. could have been handled much better.

I agree it''s unacceptable with admins go on power trips.

Rules
"if you flame / insult other members you will get an infraction"
Forum Rules - WoWPlus Forums

I asume that means you can get anything between muted to banned.

But in in short:
User being falsely accused but another member, and defending him self, instead he gets banned cause he called the guy a bad word.
If the admin really had been watching the chat, the admin should have warned the other user for false accusations and and also this user for the bad word, but an ban and that statement "I make decisions" is clearly not acceptable.
I personally consider this a minor offence since the user in question was accused by another user in first place and the admin who should have watched the chat acted out on wrong user.
It should not have to go as far that a user gets edged to the point that he or she go as far to say "A-hole" to another user in order for an admin to react/act if the admin really is active.
Then it's something wrong.

And I believe this user should get his time back, due to poor admin service in the first place by the bot creator.

But remember there is always 2 versions to a story, still this is kinda unacceptable behavior from any admin to express him/herself like that. If they really wanna be taken serious.
A warning and mute, nothing more was needed in this case.

To make things clear:

This person insulted other "paying members" and he received a shoutbox ban. After this, he asked me to lift his ban because in his eyes, he did nothing wrong. I wrote him, that he violated the rules and that i dont discuss my decisions.

In a later message, he wrote that i can go **** myself. That was the reason for me to temporarily suspend his account.

Like before, i'll not discuss this decision here. As soon, as the maintenance has been finished, you'll have the time to read the rules carefully.

[Rb Gaming]

when the program will be on again?

[Whoknowsit]

Within the next 9 hours.

WoWPlus itself should still work, but we're experiencing problems with the alternate server. I hope, that the host can fix these issues soon.

[MetaBeta]

Thanks Whoknowsit for posting the other side of the story, as I said "remember there is always 2 versions to a story".

It sounded slight off what he said, but then again, "kids" can make bots pretty easy these days, so you never know what to expect until you hear the "other side" of the story,
That's the reason I made a big post about it, not generally to defend fertilizer in this case even if it sounds like it. But hear the other side. I'm a fair guy.
I think you acted in an somewhat ok.
he has admitted himself not acting in a correct way by calling someone an A.....

There for the community mute/ban (right choice), however as an admin who was reading the chat, I do believe you could have posted "Laying will get you no where X" early on in the chat to prevent this, since X was accusing him as he claimed.
So I understand why he got angry on your decision as well and got frankly pissed at you in the moment. (I guess most would be)

Lesson to be told fertilizer: Keep your "cool", if admins are present they know whats going on, if you have done nothing wrong you can laugh at peoples accusations without any fear, cause the admins are on your side.
And you only got an "temporarily" ban from the service meaning you will soon be able to use the service again. It was only an lesson to obey the rules specially towards admins and not a permanent ban.
Next time keep your cool towards other people and users.

Good to know, you only put a temporarily ban and not permanent, seeing it was his first offence and he was the target of another members abuse in the first place.
Even if the other another member did not curse, but openly laying (directly implying you will get banned for spamming. States in the rules: Direct ban) and scaring another paying user of your service / provoke someone to possible commit and offence to defend themselves, that user deserves an big fat warning as well. or actually just as much as an temporarily ban himself for misbehaving towards another paying member.

In any case since I was not there, to read the chat myself, I really hope fertilizer feels better to know it's only an temporarily ban for cursing towards the admin and I hope you learned from that ban and what I told you above.
And that Whoknowsit, will make a note of the person whom provoked fertilizer in-case he does it to another paying member, cause then issue should be focused on the provoker and not the one who's defending him/herself.

I'm going to sub now when I get home from my trip and check the mechanics of the tool etc, seams like much work went into this project.
And good to know the admins, care about their users and are willing to give out an response when questions/issues are brought to the light.

[Rb Gaming]

Within the next 9 hours.

WoWPlus itself should still work, but we're experiencing problems with the alternate server. I hope, that the host can fix these issues soon.

Wow plus sadly isn't working. MAybe my files are corrupted. It's holding on, on logging screen (loading profile) Can you please provide me a download link so i can rerun maybe?

Thanks

[Whoknowsit]

I'll try to bring back the services asap. But there's no ETA, when you'll be able to log in again.

[Licks666]

Your website is down does anyone know whats happening ? Thanks

[Whoknowsit]

Scheduled maintenance. We'll be back soon.

[oldmanofmen]

He has every right to ban you! If you swore at a staff member in a shop you would be kicked out, it's exactly the same principle here.

It's lose you as a customer or lose many others that feel the admins/shop manager are doing nothing about it!

Tdlr: learn to think before you speak.


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He only has every right to remove a subscription before the subscription's end if the customer signed an agreement stating that administrators have the right to remove a subscription from a customer before the end of the subscription. Otherwise what you said is false.

[FotZik]

Invalid username or password! < Related to the maintenance?

[imtakinusrs]

He only has every right to remove a subscription before the subscription's end if the customer signed an agreement stating that administrators have the right to remove a subscription from a customer before the end of the subscription. Otherwise what you said is false.

Yeah, sure, debate legal matters over a hack. That's just hilarious!

[Shyev]

He has every right to ban you! If you swore at a staff member in a shop you would be kicked out, it's exactly the same principle here.

It's lose you as a customer or lose many others that feel the admins/shop manager are doing nothing about it!

Tdlr: learn to think before you speak.

I strongly disagree.

Using your example, if you insult a shopkeeper, he has indeed the right to kick you out of his shop but he has no right to withhold the items you already bought and paid for.
In such event, you will call the police.

From my point of view, preventing someone (even temporarily) from using what they paid for, just because they insulted you, is plain abuse of authority.
Just mute or ban those people from the forums – don’t ban them from the program they paid for itself.

I’m glad I read the last page of the thread before purchasing this.

[Whoknowsit]

I strongly disagree.

Using your example, if you insult a shopkeeper, he has indeed the right to kick you out of his shop but he has no right to withhold the items you already bought and paid for.
In such event, you will call the police.

From my point of view, preventing someone (even temporarily) from using what they paid for, just because they insulted you, is plain abuse of authority.
Just mute or ban those people from the forums – don’t ban them from the program they paid for itself.

I’m glad I read the last page of the thread before purchasing this.

Nobody said, that he loses anything, for what he paid for. His subscription will be extended for the time of being banned as soon, as the ban has been lifted.

However... The maintenance has been extended by a few hours because we have a DNS problem (thanks to Cloudsh!t). For this reason, i've extended every sub.