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    Originally Posted by Valma View Post
    Xelper,as I see you have started activelly reading this thread.

    So here is my question to you:
    As we all know the main part of PQR's lua code is not open source,so is there any way to get this section via PM to improve some bugs/logic issues or atleast can you PM me a string where ability cooldown is determined for every entry in a list of abilities.

    And now a short explanation:
    As I expirienced u got smth like if GetSpellCooldown(ability[i].spellid) == 0 then "do test() code" end or smth close to it.And as we all know GetSpellCooldown returns not 0 event if it is just GCD,so with latency added we are sometimes casting not we are expected to and if we got some spell with casting time like GCD+100 ms we are sometimes getting a gap of latency where we are not doing anything coz program starts to try casting something only when GCD is off.
    me and mentally have started using a check on two spells to determine is the CD we are receiving is GCD or actual cooldown. we run the check on two skills (the on we're checking and any spell that doens't have a hard cd) and if it they are the same then it's either Silence or GCD maybe thats what you can use? or are you talking about how PQR actually handles GCD?
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    Originally Posted by bu_ba_911 View Post
    me and mentally have started using a check on two spells to determine is the CD we are receiving is GCD or actual cooldown. we run the check on two skills (the on we're checking and any spell that doens't have a hard cd) and if it they are the same then it's either Silence or GCD maybe thats what you can use? or are you talking about how PQR actually handles GCD?
    Second. And it makes me a sad panda

    I'm already using metod u stated here but in reverse logic To NOT pop unGCD abilities right after GCD started(~ +1.2 eff time on bloodfury and demonsoul,which sometimes leads for +1-2 casts under buffs (; )
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    Originally Posted by bu_ba_911 View Post
    Out of curiosity, did you try using mine, but just replace my list of spells with yours?

    Sent from my Xoom
    Yeah i did that and I like your pummel coz it got focus pummel, But your pummel interrupts in the middel of cast like the first 40-70% when the enemy is casting. And the one i posted interrupts in the last 90-99% of the cast
    Last edited by jackus; 03-02-2012 at 02:28 AM.

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    Originally Posted by jackus View Post
    Yeah i did that and I like your pummel coz it got focus pummel, But your pummel interrupts in the middel of cast like the first 40-70% when the enemy is casting. And the one i posted interrupts in the last 90-99% of the cast
    funny thing is.... there's no difference between how the two spells run their logic on when to interrupt

    *edit* just worked out how I would do it based on % of cast remaining.... will probably release an update when i get it tested probably tomorrow....

    castRemaining = (100 - ((endTime/1000 - GetTime())/castDuration))
    if castRemaining >= 90 then
    return true
    end


    something like that looks pretty need to test it though
    Last edited by bu_ba_911; 03-02-2012 at 02:53 AM.
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    Originally Posted by bu_ba_911 View Post
    funny thing is.... there's no difference between how the two spells run their logic on when to interrupt

    *edit* just worked out how I would do it based on % of cast remaining.... will probably release an update when i get it tested probably tomorrow....

    castRemaining = (100 - ((endTime/1000 - GetTime())/castDuration))
    if castRemaining >= 90 then
    return true
    end


    something like that looks pretty need to test it though
    Oooh, elegant. ^^

    Did you ever receive useful feedback on your Unholy DK rotation, or did people just complain and offer no critique?

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    Actually this piece of interruptcode was posted like every 50 pages or so (:

    Dunno why Xelper haven't added it in some update for PQR :/
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    Originally Posted by Kaolla View Post
    Oooh, elegant. ^^

    Did you ever receive useful feedback on your Unholy DK rotation, or did people just complain and offer no critique?
    lol ty

    couple offered critique, most just complained.... thats why i officially dropped frost and unholy.... ill let others maintain them XD


    Originally Posted by Valma View Post
    Actually this piece of interruptcode was posted like every 50 pages or so (:

    Dunno why Xelper haven't added it in some update for PQR :/

    don't doubt it but when its code im not looking for specifically its out of sight, out of mind
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    Yeah, I've been working on a comprehensive Unholy rotation, but it's tough without knowing what people thought was wrong with yours ><

    I'd just move it entirely over to Arena, but I'm really starting to dislike the total automation that some people demand. The code required to account for even a fraction of the situations that crop up is staggering.

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    Originally Posted by Kaolla View Post
    Yeah, I've been working on a comprehensive Unholy rotation, but it's tough without knowing what people thought was wrong with yours ><

    I'd just move it entirely over to Arena, but I'm really starting to dislike the total automation that some people demand. The code required to account for even a fraction of the situations that crop up is staggering.
    yea the only thing that really came through was the desire for better rune control..... i just didn't have time to develop the code needed to do that..... would be annoying because you would need to read every runes CD, and if it's a death rune or not, and if it would play nice with the unholy rune in that particular circumstance >.<
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    Goodday everyone.
    Dear bu_ba_911 first of all thank u for u greate Arms profile!PvE and PvP!They are awesome,but there is one moment in PvE.Sometimes,unfortunally in PvE PRQ does not put Rend on the target.And I'am not talking about 5-10 seconds of fight.It could be minuets...and i must tell this is a HUGE loss of DPS.I hope i should not explain why.
    And Dear Bossqwerty I tested and your profile.And there 1 BIG mistake.Your profile does not use Overpower.As long as I know,yes it is posslbe to DPS only in Bers stance but,you must jump back in Battle Stance to use Overpower,which your profile does not.If it is possible to whenever Overpower proc to jump back on Battle Stance use it and the jump back in Bers stance,this sir would be phenomenal!I think,think way your profile gonna show OMG DPS.And I really hope u will read this post and answer it.

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    Originally Posted by bu_ba_911 View Post
    yea the only thing that really came through was the desire for better rune control..... i just didn't have time to develop the code needed to do that..... would be annoying because you would need to read every runes CD, and if it's a death rune or not, and if it would play nice with the unholy rune in that particular circumstance >.<
    Indeed. I had a stupid list of rune checks in my old Unholy profile, which is probably why it broke so often. It felt like every ability came down a six-way staring contest between the damn runes.

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    Ok guys, got a new release of FireBear Feral Tanking uploaded to my MediaFile account. Link is in my signature.

    Changes:
    -Much better AoE/Single Target Logic coding
    -Removed Taunt completely as it is better to use manually
    -Added in Xelper's Code for Heroic Will/Ultraxion. Hold Left Alt to stay out (Add -- Special Events -- to the Bear profile. goes at the very top)
    -Added a combat check on Mark of the Wild (Thanks for the suggestion me28791)
    -Many more small improvements that elude me at the moment

    Originally Posted by TehVoyager View Post
    Your reply sounded hostile a little. please understand, I wasn't criticizing. I'm trying to help out, because i'd like to make it better



    Im aware you raid kitty.
    the rotation on Inconspicuous Bear is
    Code:
    Mangle / Berserk Procs
    Demoralizing Roar
    Lacerate if no Lac on target
    Thrash
    Lacerate if not to 3
    Pulverize if 3 stacks of Lacerate and no Buff, or buff is about to expire
    Faerie Fire (Feral)
    Lacerate filler
    I see the rotation lacerating before thrash and Faerie Fire (Feral) when there is a 3 stack of lacerate on the target.



    Hmm. i have Thrash on my bar, and was watching my character Lacerate 2 or 3 times running with thrash off CD while in Raid Mode/AoE mode.
    i was watching lacerate stack on the debuffs. i saw thrash not being used. i thought i might be in the wrong rotation. so i turned it from raid to heroic and back, then from AOE to single and back. was in correct rotation settings.

    Where is this Debug setting. i've been looking for it for like 3 minutes.



    For the Bear rotation, you might want to leave it off shrapnel. from what i've read, you want to save the Dream CD on the last platform for the adds. afaik you want to use Barkskin, and let the healers know you are about to get a bit of a smack.

    It could be that i dodge more then and have less rage over all. my tank Equipped iLvl 397 with a dodge precentage of 48%.
    In the new update, all this should be fixed. I just noticed it less since like I said, I always had excess rage, so it always looked like it was casting right, but I took a closer look at the code and changed a lot of it around and added more.

    As for the Dream CD, its what, a 30 second cooldown, so it's great to use ~2 seconds before a Impale hits to save the tank from taking so much damage. And ye, I'll just remove the Dream CD from Shrapnel as I don't believe tanks get hit by it right, just DPS and Heals, right?

    Originally Posted by me28791 View Post
    your demo roar might want to add in
    Code:
    local vind = UnitDebuffID("target", 26016)
    local vindi = UnitDebuffID("target", 26017)
    local demoshout = UnitDebuffID("target", 1160)
    local cursoweak = UnitDebuffID("target", 702)
    local demoroar = UnitDebuffID("target", 99)
    local scarfev = UnitDebuffID("target", 81130)
    local demoscree = UnitDebuffID("target", 24423)
    local demopetbear = UnitDebuffID("target", 50256)
    mainly its scarlet fever you are missing, googlebee was missing that as well, I added in both pally vindication I know its 26017 well pretty sure but ehh, and also pet debuffs just in case

    unless you are going combine a kitty rotation into your bear rotation you can change out mangle just to be return true, if berserk procs it will always keep it on cd as long as prioty is high
    just saying in case the future you want to change something up

    and you might want to code in a check on motw for in combat or not or current aggro, just woke up will look at it when I get some food, just thinking will motw if it drops off after an hr which could be bad on a boss (well tho only in raids)
    Most of this is done in the new release. Except I'm going to leave Mangle as is for now just in case of Rage starving. I mean, once I get started, it's real hard for me to loose aggro from running out of rage the way it is now.
    Last edited by firepong; 03-02-2012 at 03:58 AM. Reason: Changes Text

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    Are you using the right profile of boss ? it stance dances fine and overpowers for me (BossSD7.3)

    Also only times bubba's pve arms won't rend is if you're in berserker stance since it doesn't stance dance (it will refresh it if you place it beforehand tho even in berserker)
    Originally Posted by frII View Post
    Goodday everyone.
    Dear bu_ba_911 first of all thank u for u greate Arms profile!PvE and PvP!They are awesome,but there is one moment in PvE.Sometimes,unfortunally in PvE PRQ does not put Rend on the target.And I'am not talking about 5-10 seconds of fight.It could be minuets...and i must tell this is a HUGE loss of DPS.I hope i should not explain why.
    And Dear Bossqwerty I tested and your profile.And there 1 BIG mistake.Your profile does not use Overpower.As long as I know,yes it is posslbe to DPS only in Bers stance but,you must jump back in Battle Stance to use Overpower,which your profile does not.If it is possible to whenever Overpower proc to jump back on Battle Stance use it and the jump back in Bers stance,this sir would be phenomenal!I think,think way your profile gonna show OMG DPS.And I really hope u will read this post and answer it.
    Last edited by ziggar; 03-02-2012 at 03:59 AM.

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    Originally Posted by firepong View Post
    [COLOR="#FFA07A"][SIZE=3]*SNIP*
    yeap, will have to test out new update, have a few suggestion on th boomie as well, will look at the different things, but is a nice profile and shrapnal can target a tank

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    Originally Posted by me28791 View Post
    yeap, will have to test out new update, have a few suggestion on th boomie as well, will look at the different things, but is a nice profile and shrapnal can target a tank
    Hmm, ye, I'll just leave shrapnel out all together then

    If you want Xelper's code added for Heroic well, just add -- Special Events -- Back into the profile and put it at the very top.

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