[Review] AIO Bot

[jbfromaiobot]

This review completely ignores AIO Bot's dungeon farming feature. That makes me think they didn't do a very thorough job.

We are in talks with a Warden expert for an independent security review. It's been promised, but who knows when. Up to him, really.

AIO has never had a banwave. There was a detected release in Dec 2009, but servers were taken down before any bans.

By comparison, Gatherbuddy had a banwave in 2009.

AIO Bot is twice as safe as Honorbuddy.

Honorbuddy's overall ban rate was 37%. AIO's is currently 18.64%.
18.64% * 2 = 37.3%

Polls for bans here:
AIO Bot: How risky is your WoW use? Have you gotten caught? - View Poll Results
Honorbuddy: Survey: Threshold

Number of votes for each poll: 186 AIO, 199 Honorbuddy

[KuRIoS]

This review completely ignores AIO Bot's dungeon farming feature. That makes me think they didn't do a very thorough job.

We are in talks with a Warden expert for an independent security review. It's been promised, but who knows when. Up to him, really.

AIO has never had a banwave. There was a detected release in Dec 2009, but servers were taken down before any bans.

By comparison, Gatherbuddy had a banwave in 2009.

AIO Bot is twice as safe as Honorbuddy.

Honorbuddy's overall ban rate was 37%. AIO's is currently 18.64%.
18.64% * 2 = 37.3%

Polls for bans here:
AIO Bot: How risky is your WoW use? Have you gotten caught? - View Poll Results
Honorbuddy: Survey: Threshold

Number of votes for each poll: 186 AIO, 199 Honorbuddy

We ignore something in each review - we cant go through everything in every product - if the dungeon farming feature is milebreaking then I dont think that you should be concerned....
Maybe the dungeon farming feature wasnt there when we tested it or our testers couldnt get it to work.

[louisduloc]

AIO has never had a banwave

Maybe not a ban wave per say, but there has been bans like other bots. It is also linked to the developers of the old mimic that has had lots of ban waves. It also may be the most expensive bot on the market

I used AOI for 3 or 4 months and it worked great for me, but the risk and cost made it less attractive then other public bots

AIO Bot is twice as safe as Honorbuddy

No bot is safe and hb/gb is the most protected public bot on the markit today

[jbfromaiobot]

We ignore something in each review - we cant go through everything in every product - if the dungeon farming feature is milebreaking then I dont think that you should be concerned....
Maybe the dungeon farming feature wasnt there when we tested it or our testers couldnt get it to work.

As far as I know, the dungeon farming feature has always been there since AIO was released.

There are basically two main things AIO does that other bots can't - questing and farming high level dungeons.

I think people tend to be more excited about farming their own instances in privacy than about leveling via questing.

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Maybe not a ban wave per say, but there has been bans like other bots. It is also linked to the developers of the old mimic that has had lots of ban waves. It also may be the most expensive bot on the market

I used AOI for 3 or 4 months and it worked great for me, but the risk and cost made it less attractive then other public bots

No bot is safe and hb/gb is the most protected public bot on the markit today

Yes, every bot has bans. AIO has 50% fewer than Honorbuddy does.

The story I've heard is that Mimic and Wybot split off because the Wybot people didn't like the direction Mimic was taking. This is way before anyone from the US AIO team got involved. It's hard to verify the story. But even if it's true, it's not like there's any connection between the two companies now. They're competitors in China, not friends.

AIO is demonstrably more ethical - we take down our servers immediately when there's a threat of a banwave, and keep them down until we're sure it's safe again. Even if it means missing out on months of sales while we rewrite our security.

Compare that to Mimic, where I've heard they just wait until a bunch of people start reporting bans on the forum to decide maybe there's a problem.

The price is lower to start but the monthly subscription adds up eventually... if you're not using the bot to make your money back.

You can make 3-4 lvl 80's in a month and/or rack up a boatload of gold. Framed that way, it's a reasonable price.

[louisduloc]

AIO has 50% fewer than Honorbuddy does.

This percentage is not devisable by the customer base and thus is a untrue statement.
example: hb/gb 50,000 customer 50 bans = %001
..AOI 500 customer 25 bans = %05
but you could say %50 less, but dividing by the subscriber base is a better gage and as hb/gb has allot more users due to the lifetime membership users it should be placed in the right context. Both great bots, but again placing an %50 less value is just incorrect in context.

the above subscriber bases are not actual and just used for example purposes

[jbfromaiobot]

This percentage is not devisable by the customer base and thus is a untrue statement.
example: hb/gb 50,000 customer 50 bans = %001
..AOI 500 customer 25 bans = %05
but you could say %50 less, but dividing by the subscriber base is a better gage and as hb/gb has allot more users due to the lifetime membership users it should be placed in the right context. Both great bots, but again placing an %50 less value is just incorrect in context.

the above subscriber bases are not actual and just used for example purposes

That would only make sense if you assumed that EVERY person who got banned voted in the polls. Which of course they didn't.

The numbers from the polls DON'T tell the absolute percentage of users banned for each bot. That's impossible to know without doing a randomized survey with a high response rate.

However, since the polls both suffer from the same selection biases, they are COMPARABLE.

Thus, without knowing the true ban rates for either bot, we can safely say that AIO is twice as safe as Honorbuddy.

[louisduloc]

Thus, without knowing the true ban rates for either bot, we can safely say that AIO is twice as safe as Honorbuddy.

An oxymoron (plural oxymorons or oxymora) (from Greek ὀξύμωρον, "sharp dull") is a figure of speech that combines contradictory terms. Oxymorons appear in a variety of contexts, including inadvertent errors such as extremely average and literary oxymorons crafted to reveal a paradox.

[Deliust]

AIO is the worst bot ever.. 100 % chance to get stuck, u will have around 30-50 reports over a night of botting.. It made 2 off my accounts banned.
and my 3rd account is still alive with 7 lvl 85s and 5 in lvl 80 and some twinks, thanks to honorbuddy <3 DONT PICK AIO. TOTALLY WASTED AND TO EXPENSIVE FOR UR BANS!

[MyWay86]

I think people tend to be more excited about farming their own instances in privacy than about leveling via questing.

You cant farm your own instances, there are some instances that can be farmed. Ramparts, blood furnace, Botanica, Sethek Halls, Old Startholme, Nexus.

Yes, every bot has bans. AIO has 50% fewer than Honorbuddy does.

AIO has 50% less subscribers if not even less than Honorbuddy has.

[jbfromaiobot]

You cant farm your own instances, there are some instances that can be farmed. Ramparts, blood furnace, Botanica, Sethek Halls, Old Startholme, Nexus.
AIO has 50% less subscribers if not even less than Honorbuddy has.

MyWay, I don't know what you mean by "you can't farm your own instances." The bot is alone in the instance.

The total subscriber base doesn't matter. We are comparing the % of users banned, not the total number. You don't need to multiply or divide by user base.

Both polls had a similar matter of votes (not that it matters, as long as the number of votes is high enough to provide a statistically significant result).

louisduloc, I don't think you are capable of grasping statistical logic. But I will spell it out for you.

E = common bias shared by both polls, due to their similarity
HBP = HB poll % banned
AIOP = AIO poll % banned
HBT = HB true % banned
AIOT = AIO true % banned

HBP * E = HBT
AIOP * E = AIOT

(AIOP*E)/(HBP*E) = AIOT / HBT = AIOP / HBP

[louisduloc]

The law of averages is a lay term used to express a belief that outcomes of a random event will "even out" within a small sample.

As invoked in everyday life, the "law" usually reflects bad statistics or wishful thinking rather than any mathematical principle. While there is a real theorem that a random variable will reflect its underlying probability over a very large sample, the law of averages typically assumes that unnatural short-term "balance" must occur.

[jbfromaiobot]

The law of averages is a lay term used to express a belief that outcomes of a random event will "even out" within a small sample.

As invoked in everyday life, the "law" usually reflects bad statistics or wishful thinking rather than any mathematical principle. While there is a real theorem that a random variable will reflect its underlying probability over a very large sample, the law of averages typically assumes that unnatural short-term "balance" must occur.

You're making this too easy:

"In probability theory, the law of large numbers (LLN) is a theorem that describes the result of performing the same experiment a large number of times. According to the law, the average of the results obtained from a large number of trials should be close to the expected value, and will tend to become closer as more trials are performed."

Standard errors on both polls for the "banned" statistic are below .01%

[googlebee]

Outdated guides on the forums - Poor Support - Ran by a Banhappy admin when hes called out on having misinformation related to canceling the recurring subscription. All new versions of the bot are *Beta* versions and are not fully tested. (Its clearly a drop-shipped bot from Asia as everything is in Chinese by default and they are admittedly a reseller - so u can expect non direct 3rd party updates as they receive them.)

Has been a number of suspensions ( i got 2) and bans in the past week, tho this is happening with other bots as well. Myself I canceled.

It works....but its unstable. been using Bots for years. I do not recommend this one. Certainly not worth $16.50 a month.

[jbfromaiobot]

Outdated guides on the forums - Poor Support - Ran by a Banhappy admin when hes called out on having misinformation related to canceling the recurring subscription. All new versions of the bot are *Beta* versions and are not fully tested. (Its clearly a drop-shipped bot from Asia as everything is in Chinese by default and they are admittedly a reseller - so u can expect non direct 3rd party updates as they receive them.)

Has been a number of suspensions ( i got 2) and bans in the past week, tho this is happening with other bots as well. Myself I canceled.

It works....but its unstable. been using Bots for years. I do not recommend this one. Certainly not worth $16.50 a month.

The version you buy comes in English.

I agree that new feature implementation and some bug fixes can be frustratingly slow.

However updates for patches come out amazingly fast. We were operational through the Shattering and Cata updates. And prior patches we often had new versions out before Blizzard's servers finished coming online. Compare that to Honorbuddy which has had weeks of downtime, and many of the community built features don't get updated at all. E.g. Instancebuddy is still down.

[Succubuzz]

AIO is the worst bot ever.. 100 % chance to get stuck, u will have around 30-50 reports over a night of botting.. It made 2 off my accounts banned.
and my 3rd account is still alive with 7 lvl 85s and 5 in lvl 80 and some twinks, thanks to honorbuddy <3 DONT PICK AIO. TOTALLY WASTED AND TO EXPENSIVE FOR UR BANS!

i lold. for me the bot has been stuck maybe 5 times in total throughout the last 50 lvls its gotten. And i guess i havnt been reported since i havnt had any suspensions.