Glider Lawsuit Discussion Thread

[Oxyzon Hacks]

my care cup is empty on this one

[drayconn]

im almost certain that if MDY does lose, the creators or even someone else will just take the program, edit it a little and make a new company. Besides, there are already lots of alternatives. Blizzard should take all the money they are putting into court cases and put it into coming up with an idea to ban bots perminantly!

Maybe Blizzard should focus it's finances on making a game that doesn't require botting to be fun.

I'm personally disappointed in blizzard, although I didn't like WoW itself very much I found their customer relations and marketing practices to be above PAR from most other online game companies.

Unfortunately it seems like Blizz has decided to FK their competitive advantage and turn into SoE.

[lufkin]

this will just be another classic case of who has more money wins

[Joethemagicalhobo]

Blizzard would have targeted it anyway, its a bot. Its against the rules.

yet look at the smaller bots, they are ignored. (zolo for example)

[Lifestream]

I think it depends on the judges kids ^^
Maybe they glide...maybe HE glides himself, who knows?

Maybe he plays a Nightelf Rogue and spams /lick on everyone he kills, telling his guild that he just killed 20 Horde guys with 1 attack!!!111oneonezzz

Nah, seriously. I think it's 50/50

[Kyiz]

So pretty much If you have glider, and Blizzard wins, you won't be able to run it anymore. Or buy it.

right?

[Nesox]

Yes it will get closed, no more gliding

[tumi2000]

I've never really understood why blizzard is trying to get rid of bots, maybe if they'd spend more time on finding a better way to detect glider or recruit more employees to i don't know maybe watch players play this game then they would make way more money, think of all the accounts banned players transferring upgrading to wotlk and bc and the monthly fees.
yes I've always pictured blizzard really greedy

[Cypher]

I've never really understood why blizzard is trying to get rid of bots, maybe if they'd spend more time on finding a better way to detect glider or recruit more employees to i don't know maybe watch players play this game then they would make way more money, think of all the accounts banned players transferring upgrading to wotlk and bc and the monthly fees.
yes I've always pictured blizzard really greedy

1. They ruin the economy
2. They impact adversely on legitimate players
3. They create a bad image for the game which hurts sales
4. They are one of the things that make RMT so profitable
etc etc.

There are plenty of good reasons, you're probably just blinded by your own greed. Blizzard is not in the wrong here because they want to shut down bots, its the legislation they're trying to use to do so that is questionable.

[NiHao]

So pretty much If you have glider, and Blizzard wins, you won't be able to run it anymore. Or buy it.

right?

...Or Blizzard completely detects everyone who bots and has done so within a year, bans them, and then expects a large portion of those who were banned to go out and buy the game over again, roll new characters, meanwhile bitch and moan about not being able to get a refund from their Glider purchase.


Eh, who knows.

[Kyiz]

...Or Blizzard completely detects everyone who bots and has done so within a year, bans them, and then expects a large portion of those who were banned to go out and buy the game over again, roll new characters, meanwhile bitch and moan about not being able to get a refund from their Glider purchase.


Eh, who knows.

no

~fillers~

[Apoc]

The judge just ruled and, unfortunately, it did not go much our way. He pretty much awarded everything to Blizzard again.

Here's a link to the order: http://www.mmoglider.com/Legal/trialorder_jan28.pdf

What this means for Glider customers
The judge asked us to file a memo by February 13th on why we should be allowed to continue to sell Glider through the appeal process.

I'm not sure why he asked for that, since I don't think he's going to start listening to us now. So we'll file it and see, but it seems very likely that he will rule against us. Then we'll go up to the 9th circuit and try to get a stay, similar to how the Napster case went.

If all goes badly, Glider could be shut down as early as mid-February. So keep your fingers crossed.

Things don't look good for Gliders.

[valiliv]

it would seem, from common sense (something that's lacking in much of the legal world), that Blizzard should be able to keep things like Glider out. They own the game, and if they want zero bots running around killing mobs or hopping around in BGs there should be a legal way of doing that, other than banning the users, and *especially* when the bot is a cash cow for its devs. And that's just glider which is a simplistic barely-functioning piece of crap, how about openbot that could do almost anything including assisting in arenas - no different than running an aim hack in a FPS.

Somehow this has ended up as a DMCA copyright infringement issue (vs users) and seems to set one heck of a precedent, from its "you COPY when you load from HD to memory, etc". The judge seems clueless enough for it all to be overturned on appeal, hopefully.

It's hard to choose sides here Glider is a money-grubbing POS of a product, Blizzard's claim that after 100s day played NOTHING belongs to the player is iffy at best. Probably the most important part of it all is not letting it set a precedent, or the whole "pay us $5000 per mp3 shared grandma or we sue and evict you" thing will spread like wildfire.

[~OddBall~]

Time for some OB.NET goodness I say!

[KuRIoS]

Time for some OB.NET goodness I say!

you really think they would rish getting a 6.000.000 dollar fine as well?