Chosing an Emulator

[clamchoda]

My development for my screen analyzer is coming along beautifully. There is one thing I need to ask the community and that is, what is the best Emulator right now? Ya ya, none are safe, but which is the BEST!

I have been developing for Nox, but it's a pain in the ass faking the device id's, setting up proper mock locations ect. Sometimes Nox crash's and the device ID's need to be reset. This is unacceptable in the middle of a "play" session.

I have setup my project so that it can support many different types of emulators. For the initial release, it will focus on one (For a one man team, supporting every emulator is just not viable for debugging purposes at the moment).

Lets hear your better emulator options which possibly, could emulate sensor data. Along with emulating sensor data, the emulator must of course, spoof locations. ideally, you wont show up on whoer.net as an emulator.


EDIT: Mods please move this to chat section. I am sorry

[deerhunter229]

These are just my opinions and they vary but I use a lot of emulators.

Bluestacks. Great emulator for a lot of games. If you need to run multiple instances aint gonna happen.

Leapdroid. New kid on the block. Fast, responsive. May be one of the best for manually playing and spoofing. Being the new kid they are rolling out a lot of updates. This is good for implementation of features. Pain in the arse trying to not lose or reinstall all your apps bots etc. every update. I think their UI can use a lot of tweaks to make simple things like screen resolution and such a lot more user friendly. Just starting to port some bots over and it looks promising in the future.

MEMU. Great emulator. I think the new 2.8.2 version is very good. that being said I find that pokemon go is really laggy and do not use it much anymore for that. Run 4 instances with clash of clans and 4 bots for each and only uses 85% cpu on my I5 CPU. pretty good stats in my opinion.

NOX: was king of the hill in my book up until 0.35.0 poke update. became really laggy and locks up alot. especially with macros. really hope this gets better.


Good luck choosing. They all have good and bad points. I just install them all and run the crap outa them. hey they are free.

[Boov]

bluestacks is my personal choice

[Drax27]

MEMU or Nox

[andrerdxd]

Leapdroid is very fast and nox is more stable. But i mainly use nox.

[Zamock]

I did not tested all the known android emulators, but i can say my experience with leapdroid has been great so far. Been using it for a month. I can run many instances of it without any problem. I did not have any problems running other games too. Maybe you should take a look on this one. Furthermore it is built upon virtual box so you can literally do anything you want if you have the knowledge. Hope it helps.

Pokemon go runs very nicely. I would say about 85-90% of smartphone experience.

[renzuken]

dont use NOX for now

its risky, the nox hardware (android) info all saying NOXw or NOX

niantics will 100% track this, you will get banned soon as soon as they target emulator players, their priority now is the bot so thats why your not banned yet.

use a emualtor that emulate not only the function but emulates the Hardware infos,headers,referers etc...

ill suggest leapdroid but its not the best as NOX features
memu if you have monster pc/laptop because its too laggy

bluestack is the samme with nox not safe

what im using? im using a better emulator than any of the above, its 100% safe, but i cant share it yet, so niantics wont find it

[clamchoda]

dont use NOX for now

its risky, the nox hardware (android) info all saying NOXw or NOX

niantics will 100% track this, you will get banned soon as soon as they target emulator players, their priority now is the bot so thats why your not banned yet.

use a emualtor that emulate not only the function but emulates the Hardware infos,headers,referers etc...

ill suggest leapdroid but its not the best as NOX features
memu if you have monster pc/laptop because its too laggy

bluestack is the samme with nox not safe

what im using? im using a better emulator than any of the above, its 100% safe, but i cant share it yet, so niantics wont find it

Well that stinks, My bots pretty much done. Just waiting on a 100% safe emu

[lm47]

Well that stinks, My bots pretty much done. Just waiting on a 100% safe emu

there isn't a 100% safe emu yet, and probably there won't be one soon

I'd say you release it to get feedbacks/bug fixes while waiting for one

so far Leapdroid is the safest for me since I can spoof more device info than the other emulators. Feature wise, Leapdroid with recent updates is coming pretty close to Nox

[inadag]

Bluestacks

[clamchoda]

there isn't a 100% safe emu yet, and probably there won't be one soon

I'd say you release it to get feedbacks/bug fixes while waiting for one

so far Leapdroid is the safest for me since I can spoof more device info than the other emulators. Feature wise, Leapdroid with recent updates is coming pretty close to Nox

Thank you, can you verify weather or not your real location is exposed while spoofing using Leapdroid? That is my only concern with this EMU. (My design is easily ported between EMU's, I'll be able to support all of them! For now though I would like to release it with the best option)

[lm47]

Thank you, can you verify weather or not your real location is exposed while spoofing using Leapdroid? That is my only concern with this EMU. (My design is easily ported between EMU's, I'll be able to support all of them! For now though I would like to release it with the best option)

On Leapdroid or any emulators, if I use the browser to go to whoer.net, I can see my Internet service provider IP&location is exposed. If I use VPN or proxy, the vpn/proxy IP&location is displayed. Pretty straightforward, and I think the same info is presented to Niantic if they want to get it.

But I don't think Niantic really cares, or can tell where my true location is from that info, so I have always been botting and using emulators without hiding my IP. Below is why:

My understanding is that there are 3 obvious ways that Niantic can get your location:

1. by your ip .

I don't bother use proxies/vpn because the free public proxies and vpns can be easily banned by Niantic due to thousands of people running bots on them. Also from what I read so far, Niantic can probably still get your real IP even if you run proxies/vpns, and I don't think it's worth the hassle & cost to get a private proxy/vpn for the game.

And if you really think about it, your proxy/vpn with an IP in Australia (while your real location is in Europe) DOES NOT MEAN ANYTHING if you snipe a pokemon in Asia, or hit 200 pokestops in Central Park New York, USA. So a proxy/vpn is only good if you are going to bot 1 account in that particular area where proxies/vpn provider is, no sniping. It means, if you really want to be safe botting in Central Park, you better use a vpn/proxy that has IP in that area. That's pretty much the same as botting with your real IP, near your Internet service provider.

Niantic probably won't want to use your IP to tell your location anyways, because they'd probably get false positives, as there might be legit players using the same IPs as botter.

On that note, I use my static ip with no proxy/vpn.

2. by your google account.

Yes, your account is associated with a location and google tracks your activities on that account to kinda "guess" your real location, which Niantic can use.
If you don't use a google account and use a PTC account, you don't really have to worry about this.

I use PTCs now.

3. by your device info, being sent back to Niantic when you play.

This is a tricky one and probably the one that you'd have to worry about. Besides all those device info such as model, ID, build, etc, they also collect sensor info and what not.

These can probably be used by Niantic to tell where on the map you'd be and how you move. Although, that is a bit reaching, and Niantic probably won't really get your location from that, but Niantic can just flag you because they know that your current location is a fake one. They don't care where your real location is.

I don't think any emulator/bot on the market can provide this information, dynamically, yet. But you can do that with available Apps out there, although it is still not 100% foolproof as we really don't know 100% what kind of device data Niantic is collecting for flagging.

[clamchoda]

On Leapdroid or any emulators, if I use the browser to go to whoer.net, I can see my Internet service provider IP&location is exposed. If I use VPN or proxy, the vpn/proxy IP&location is displayed. Pretty straightforward, and I think the same info is presented to Niantic if they want to get it.

But I don't think Niantic really cares, or can tell where my true location is from that info, so I have always been botting and using emulators without hiding my IP. Below is why:

My understanding is that there are 3 obvious ways that Niantic can get your location:

1. by your ip .

I don't bother use proxies/vpn because the free public proxies and vpns can be easily banned by Niantic due to thousands of people running bots on them. Also from what I read so far, Niantic can probably still get your real IP even if you run proxies/vpns, and I don't think it's worth the hassle & cost to get a private proxy/vpn for the game.

And if you really think about it, your proxy/vpn with an IP in Australia (while your real location is in Europe) DOES NOT MEAN ANYTHING if you snipe a pokemon in Asia, or hit 200 pokestops in Central Park New York, USA. So a proxy/vpn is only good if you are going to bot 1 account in that particular area where proxies/vpn provider is, no sniping. It means, if you really want to be safe botting in Central Park, you better use a vpn/proxy that has IP in that area. That's pretty much the same as botting with your real IP, near your Internet service provider.

Niantic probably won't want to use your IP to tell your location anyways, because they'd probably get false positives, as there might be legit players using the same IPs as botter.

On that note, I use my static ip with no proxy/vpn.

2. by your google account.

Yes, your account is associated with a location and google tracks your activities on that account to kinda "guess" your real location, which Niantic can use.
If you don't use a google account and use a PTC account, you don't really have to worry about this.

I use PTCs now.

3. by your device info, being sent back to Niantic when you play.

This is a tricky one and probably the one that you'd have to worry about. Besides all those device info such as model, ID, build, etc, they also collect sensor info and what not.

These can probably be used by Niantic to tell where on the map you'd be and how you move. Although, that is a bit reaching, and Niantic probably won't really get your location from that, but Niantic can just flag you because they know that your current location is a fake one. They don't care where your real location is.

I don't think any emulator/bot on the market can provide this information, dynamically, yet. But you can do that with available Apps out there, although it is still not 100% foolproof as we really don't know 100% what kind of device data Niantic is collecting for flagging.

Thank you Im47 for sharing your findings. One thing I can point out to you, is that whoer.net checks the browser client its being run in. So if you do something like install Exposed -> Device Faker, even after faking a device such as Nexus 7, when you use the default browser in Nox in whoer.net it will always show up as Android(NoxW). I do not believe this is what Niantic sees, because if you install a different browser, you get a different result!

But thank you for the rest of your tips, I really like the PTC one!

[buddyhesus]

Is there a way to change the movement keys in Leapdroid to wasd or esdf?

[clamchoda]

Is there a way to change the movement keys in Leapdroid to wasd or esdf?

I am also having hard times finding how to do this. There are only 4 registry entries for Leapdroid, and it looks like a lot of the setup is tied into the dll's :/

Someone point out a solution if you find one please