What is more secure - xposed phone GPS Spoof or Memu Emulator?

[briii]

My setup on android is xposed framework with root cloak, hide mock locations, and fake gps paid version. I use it for sniping pokemom an havent got any of the three accounts i use banned.

[Jumanfreez]

My setup on android is xposed framework with root cloak, hide mock locations, and fake gps paid version. I use it for sniping pokemom an havent got any of the three accounts i use banned.

What fake gps app is that?

[azzkickr]

What fake gps app is that?

its literally called "fake gps" I know because I also use it

[xisamix]

If im not wrong its called Fly GPS as well. Seems to be working well for me at the moment

[xisamix]

What fake gps app is that?

If im not wrong its called Fly GPS as well. Seems to be working well for me at the moment

My setup on android is xposed framework with root cloak, hide mock locations, and fake gps paid version. I use it for sniping pokemom an havent got any of the three accounts i use banned.

@briii

Are you able to provide more details? Such as your level, how long you play and the speed you travel? Also if you snipe, within your country or outside?

I would say this is a bit misinformed opinion. As a mobile developer Nintac has no access to the actual GPS sensors. They have access to a function which requests GPS data from the OS, the OS actually aggregates data from Wifi, Cell, GPS and Bluetooth to determine position and returns a simplified value. GPS spoofers such as xposed actually modify the OS functions and replace the return value of that function so Nintac can not actually differentiate between fake value and real values since they are returned by the same function. Only way Nintac can determine if they are fake is on behavior such as speed, orientation, elevation and other meta data etc...

TLDR Nintac cannot differentiate spoofed coordinates if done correctly.

Anecdotally, I have an account running on a android device been botting since first week using combination of xposed GPS spoof and scripts. Still running today. Right now it's testing leveling speed using bubble strat

@Insanefury

Can you point me in the correct direction of the type of scripts used for botting on android? Do they simulate action (eg tasker) or code level botting?

Thanks in advance

[Zamock]

Thanks for votes guys. Im on the same boat as you all. Trying hard to find a way to securely bot pokemon go, but unfortunately, to me, it seems all the available methods are detectable. If Niantic wants to find you, they will. The have all the tools needed.

[edgekek]

aye,I feel especially sad. Since there is no pokestops close to where I live. I live like 2 hours by car to the city. If I have to go to the city to play everytime I want to.
damn

[H4LF7770077]

im learning in this thread!!!
UPUPUPUP

[edgekek]

If we could spoof around your city / area without any problems. that would mean alot to me. Right now I am without options.

[Zamock]

My setup on android is xposed framework with root cloak, hide mock locations, and fake gps paid version. I use it for sniping pokemom an havent got any of the three accounts i use banned.

That is a nice setup I never used xposed framework nor rooted my smartphone(dont like to mess with it too much), but i know basically how it works. I would say this setup is a little bit safer.

But we still dont know the full extent of Niantic capabilities to get data from your phone. Xposed framework runs on memory so it could be possible to them to cross reference data in their database and detect inconsistency in your data. Also we dont know how the U6 Hash will affect the accuracy of fake gps.

As i said earlier, they have gotten in theirs hands a huge database of game usage. When the game launched the U6 Hash validation was already in the code but it was not activated. Some say it is ingenuity, inexperience. I believe they did it on purpose to get all this data and have a clear picture of what is legit gameplay and what is not. With that in hands they can virtually catch any abnormal activity.

The next chapter is the upcoming captcha system.. They are working really hard to get us out of the game. But we will not surrender.

[H4LF7770077]

The next chapter is the upcoming captcha system.. They are working really hard to get us out of the game. But we will not surrender.

O_0
where did u get that info dude?
tnx

[Zamock]

O_0
where did u get that info dude?
tnx

The same crew that cracked U6 data mined a snippet of code showing a captcha function. Its already there, but whether it will be on or deactivated in the next patch is still a mystery.


API developers are already preparing for this change, but it will surely change the way we bot now if it goes live.

More info here

[dijishen]

This graphic when all bot die coz API change.. not relevant again now..
The fact that Niantic prepare captcha indicate that Niantic know they cant stop bots.. our rocket api still improve..
IMHO Ninatic wouldnt make new API until some new PoGo feature implemented..

Spoof may be detected from data calculation.. so, lets flood the server with our bot log to make more heavy data calcullation..
Every pokemon has id, i think snip with incense or lured pokemon is save..

[Zamock]

This graphic when all bot die coz API change.. not relevant again now..
The fact that Niantic prepare captcha indicate that Niantic know they cant stop bots.. our rocket api still improve..
IMHO Ninatic wouldnt make new API until some new PoGo feature implemented..

Spoof may be detected from data calculation.. so, lets flood the server with our bot log to make more heavy data calcullation..
Every pokemon has id, i think snip with incense or lured pokemon is save..

I think this graphic is still relevant as it shows clearly how much they know about us. At that time, roughly 75% of pokemon go traffic was external API queries(bots and tools). They have all this data on theirs hands. Since then pretty much nothing changed in our bots and tools, besides the frontend.. To sum it up they can easily download the source code of all the free APIs available and have a real good look on a nice and clean code. Its nothing compared to what the developers of U6Team had to do. Decompiling pokemon go client, analyzing raw low lvl assembly code, utilizing MITM techniques to figure parts of the code. No child job. Dont you think, for Niantic, someone using current APIs shines like a star in their logs?

Indeed, they cant stop bots, neither can we stop them from banning us, for now. You dont get it. Captchas are going to be a pain in the ass for bots. No easy solution.
If we flood their servers with bot traffic(which we already do) they will only get more data and further strengthen their detection algorithm.

It all comes down to cracking U6 perfectly and gathering more data about their detection methods so we can refine our bot routines.