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    I botted to lv32 before the first major perma ban-wave and stopped using bots at that point. I have however used Nox a bit since then and continued to use a Chinese IOS hack for GPS spoofing. Considering that I've aggressively taken 10 gyms everyday near where I live I've been quite surprised that I have evaded the dreaded banhammer thus far.

    Today, I woke up, logged in (on legit app) and checked my squad to see how many gyms I lost overnight and then switched off the app. 20mins later I tried to login on my Chinese hacked app, but got the "Unable to authenticate. Please Try Again." login error. I tried again from my legit app and got the same problem. I assumed that meant account banned, RIP... especially since my parents could login perfectly fine on their legit accounts. However, less than 30mins later, I randomly tried again and the problem was gone, I even caught a random rattata that spawned in my house to confirm that I wasn't even soft-banned.

    Does anyone know what's going on there? Did I get banned and unbanned in the space of an hour? Or was this simply server error?

    tldr: I got banned and unbanned in a 1 hr period. Anyone else experienced something like this?
    Last edited by Heindrich; 08-29-2016 at 07:32 AM. Reason: Added tldr

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    That's was ban , total loss , maybe try to appeal
    Never login any accounts when botting before

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    Originally Posted by Heindrich View Post
    I botted to lv32 before the first major perma ban-wave and stopped using bots at that point. I have however used Nox a bit since then and continued to use a Chinese IOS hack for GPS spoofing. Considering that I've aggressively taken 10 gyms everyday near where I live I've been quite surprised that I have evaded the dreaded banhammer thus far.

    Today, I woke up, logged in (on legit app) and checked my squad to see how many gyms I lost overnight and then switched off the app. 20mins later I tried to login on my Chinese hacked app, but got the "Unable to authenticate. Please Try Again." login error. I tried again from my legit app and got the same problem. I assumed that meant account banned, RIP... especially since my parents could login perfectly fine on their legit accounts. However, less than 30mins later, I randomly tried again and the problem was gone, I even caught a random rattata that spawned in my house to confirm that I wasn't even soft-banned.

    Does anyone know what's going on there? Did I get banned and unbanned in the space of an hour? Or was this simply server error?

    tldr: I got banned and unbanned in a 1 hr period. Anyone else experienced something like this?
    I know, because in the lastest version release, every 3rd app affect or working to affect your main pokemongo app you will get the message "Unable to authenticate. Please Try Again.:.
    It mean your account wasn't banned today. but after next wave, who know what will happen )) , let's bottting =))

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    Originally Posted by ndh1235 View Post
    That's was ban , total loss , maybe try to appeal
    Never login any accounts when botting before
    I guess you only read title :P

    I got unbanned within an hour of being banned.

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    Maybe you not banned yet, just temporary server side error. Let's just assume that lol

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    Originally Posted by Heindrich View Post
    I botted to lv32 before the first major perma ban-wave and stopped using bots at that point. I have however used Nox a bit since then and continued to use a Chinese IOS hack for GPS spoofing. Considering that I've aggressively taken 10 gyms everyday near where I live I've been quite surprised that I have evaded the dreaded banhammer thus far.

    Today, I woke up, logged in (on legit app) and checked my squad to see how many gyms I lost overnight and then switched off the app. 20mins later I tried to login on my Chinese hacked app, but got the "Unable to authenticate. Please Try Again." login error. I tried again from my legit app and got the same problem. I assumed that meant account banned, RIP... especially since my parents could login perfectly fine on their legit accounts. However, less than 30mins later, I randomly tried again and the problem was gone, I even caught a random rattata that spawned in my house to confirm that I wasn't even soft-banned.

    Does anyone know what's going on there? Did I get banned and unbanned in the space of an hour? Or was this simply server error?

    tldr: I got banned and unbanned in a 1 hr period. Anyone else experienced something like this?
    so you mean until today, after 3 banwaves for the past 3-4 weeks, you never ban? but you account botted from 1-32? Do you snipe as well (like teleport other place to catch pokemon)?

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    Originally Posted by Hell3oy View Post
    so you mean until today, after 3 banwaves for the past 3-4 weeks, you never ban? but you account botted from 1-32? Do you snipe as well (like teleport other place to catch pokemon)?
    I started my account on the day it launched in the UK. Played full legit until lv16-ish... but I am a rural player and the grind became unbearable. Discovered the Chinese IOS GPS spoof and used it to grind in San Francisco up to ~lv24... then used a mixture of PokeCrot (I didn't know it was a stolen bot from another dev) and NecroBot (mostly) to bot until just below lv33.

    And yes I never got banned so far. I also did a little sniping, mostly manually using Nox... you know, teleport to Pokemon, engage it, teleport back and then throw Pokeballs. I got soft-banned once when I forgot to teleport back, but resolved it with the "spin Pokestop 40 times" trick.

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    So the point is you stopped botting before the 1st ban wave. I believe before API change, literally all bots are undetectable.
    Plus some think that nox is not yet a priority for ban. So there you go.

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    Originally Posted by cajuputi View Post
    So the point is you stopped botting before the 1st ban wave. I believe before API change, literally all bots are undetectable.
    Plus some think that nox is not yet a priority for ban. So there you go.
    Actually the timeline was something like this:

    I was using PokeCrot, reached ~lv28... API change happened, all bots died. I came on this forum to find out what was going on.
    3 days later NecroBot relaunches... I used it on and off until I was near lv33. Then the first perma banwave happened and I stopped.

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    Originally Posted by cajuputi View Post
    So the point is you stopped botting before the 1st ban wave. I believe before API change, literally all bots are undetectable.
    Plus some think that nox is not yet a priority for ban. So there you go.
    Thats wrong , the value is inside the client before API change , the only validate on server after recent update so botted before API change is = banned,

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    Originally Posted by Heindrich View Post
    Actually the timeline was something like this:

    I was using PokeCrot, reached ~lv28... API change happened, all bots died. I came on this forum to find out what was going on.
    3 days later NecroBot relaunches... I used it on and off until I was near lv33. Then the first perma banwave happened and I stopped.
    So you have lucky account lol.

    Btw, you mentioned pokecrot is stolen bot from another dev? How do you know? I saw someone posting a link to that bot today.

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    Originally Posted by cajuputi View Post
    So you have lucky account lol.

    Btw, you mentioned pokecrot is stolen bot from another dev? How do you know? I saw someone posting a link to that bot today.
    I don't remember the exact details, I'm not exactly a regular on the "botting scene" Basically PokeCrot used to be identical to another bot whose dev was active on this forum. After the API change PokeCrot re-released totally different, and identical to yet another existing bot. So basically whoever runs PokeCrot steals others' work and packages it as if it was their own.

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    Originally Posted by Heindrich View Post
    I started my account on the day it launched in the UK. Played full legit until lv16-ish... but I am a rural player and the grind became unbearable. Discovered the Chinese IOS GPS spoof and used it to grind in San Francisco up to ~lv24... then used a mixture of PokeCrot (I didn't know it was a stolen bot from another dev) and NecroBot (mostly) to bot until just below lv33.

    And yes I never got banned so far. I also did a little sniping, mostly manually using Nox... you know, teleport to Pokemon, engage it, teleport back and then throw Pokeballs. I got soft-banned once when I forgot to teleport back, but resolved it with the "spin Pokestop 40 times" trick.
    Well this is interesting. I legit play until level 16 and bot with necro + snip hardcore until 28. Big BEN later.

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    I got "Unable to authenticate" message too on my phone. It is just a server issue. It could mean a lot of things. If you botted before the ban wave, then your account most likely didn't get affected. They didn't care about people cheating at that time.
    Last edited by Pix3; 08-29-2016 at 09:00 AM.

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    Originally Posted by Heindrich View Post
    I guess you only read title :P

    I got unbanned within an hour of being banned.
    It wasn't a hard ban or you wouldn't be unbanned, probably something different like softban or server issue.
    You're perma banned? Join the team purple!

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