Theory- Ninantic Detects Botters via API requests.

[viralogic]

Hi,

All the accounts that I have botted on since the API change have been permanently banned. However, an account (lev 25) that I have botted on PRIOR to the API change has not been banned as of yet (I have not done any botting/sniping/spoofing actions on the account since the API change).

I have also read in some discord chats and other forum threads, that the 'unknown6' encrypted into the current API is not 100% successfully reverse engineered and therefore the unofficial API that each bot currently implements is sending detectable, inauthentic requests.

So I believe that no matter how 'human-like' a bot's configuration is or how much we manually use bots to emulate real human behaviour it is only delaying the eventual ban, since in the end we are sending illegitimate requests which ninantic can detect.

Ultimately, I think the only way to be truely undetectable is to be able to have the new API successfully cracked.

PS: I may be completely wrong, please correct me if so

[hackerlol]

However, an account (lev 25) that I have botted on PRIOR to the API change has not been banned as of yet (I have not done any botting/sniping/spoofing actions on the account since the API change).

An account(L36) I had that was botted prior to the API change and was not played upon since was banned shortly after the API change. This should invalidate your theory.
Botting previous and post the API change have resulted in bans.

Do not bot at this time unless you are ready to loose the account.

[Nemm]

While, as the other comment some have been banned for pre API change activity I think the only requisite for proof is all post API change accounts being hit by the wave, as pre may have been picked up by different algorithms. Let's not make the mistake of thinking they are using only one or few detection methods.


I had read quite a bit about the r.eng API being incomplete, bot releasers who were on the pogodev channel knew this and released detectable bots anyway. I presume the work needed is too time consuming and there was hope Niantic would not track, but when the start of the bans came it is little surprise then some devs closed up shop.

[vailhor]

Taht's already explained here : How ban works
Next time can you just quote me?

[Fadelol]

Taht's already explained here : How ban works
Next time can you just quote me?

Woah buddy, get off that high horse.

[vailhor]

Woah buddy, get off that high horse.

Just don't feed the troll, that's a useless thread all is already explained in the other ban thread and that doesn't give us anything new.