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    Understanding the real thing [BOT]

    Why with all of modification, humanization, cautions....... a lot of botters got banned?
    Because of:
    1. GREED - to catch up or to be the very first!
    2. BRAG - to bully other, to boast, to show how powerful you are!
    3. MONEY - Gain profit!

    Understand this and eliminating this factors will make you hit the safe zone! Most of us dont really care how to be safe since they could:

    1. EASY - to recreate account
    2. RELY - there is a lot of open source bot

    so in the end niantic

    1. Hunt down coders/site/bot
    2. write a code that track down a log record base on bot features

    This are false theory:
    1.IP BANNED - all account will be banned if that ip was used to bot.
    - NO! Most of us use dynamic IP

    This theory might be true:

    1. MAC ADDRESS - flag, then later on banned when proven as a botter
    2. HWID - flag, then later on banned when proven as a botter

    Note i dont have much knowledge about mac and HWID, this is just my theory, since most of us dont know this things. i know it could be change but not like IP that could be change easily.

    MY FEASIBILITY STUDY

    1. Play it first on a normal cp/tablet. Take note things the will contribute on xp and time travel.
    -Based on my experience standing in the middle of 4 stop with lure in it:
    a. It takes 10secs(best) 30sec(max) to open a pokestop. it depend also with your net speed. 50xp for normal, 100xp for egg buff
    b. It takes 1min-5mins to catch a pokemon, 1 min for already catch pokemon 5mins for a resisting pokemon. 100xp for normal, 200xp for egg buff, 500 for new pokemon, 1k if buff.
    c. Pokestop have a 5 mins cooldown

    so in short take all best time to calculate a humane pokemon session in the middle of 4 pokestop:
    30s(4)+5mins(4)+5mins = 12mins(600xp) super safe value

    -3000xp per hour

    I been studying how niantic server reacts on different stat i put on bots, some got banned some are not.one thing for sure if you use bot recklessly or you rush things up just to sake to catch up you will fail. or you succeed for now then fail later. you cant dodge a GAME LOG, you got a flag then if you continue they will banned your account for sure!

    i have a lot of account the up to now they are still alive and kicking.

    this is what i do:
    1. RELEASE date - so you have idea what will be the best level in your area.
    2. Ask a FRIEND, friend of friends - survey your area which pokemons mostly catch in your area both night and day.
    3. Dont use SNIPER - if i recall from previous patch of pogo, there is a feature where it show where did u catch a pokemon(correct me if im wrong) if your bag full of different snipe pokemon beyond your ip your account would be flag, review then later on banned.
    4. Dont be a JUMPER - dont jump from continent to continent, niantic calculate distance, even thou you could give ally-by like travelling, account sharing, but be cautious with the time calculation. Example: u start your bot at US, then when your account is ripe, you want to gym battle at your place. dont jump immediate, set a number of days when to jump, 1 to 2 days dont play that account then set a jump, so when ban times comes you have a reasonable ally-by of travelling from continent to continent.
    5. Dont be GREEDY - dont be greedy in gym, gyms are meant to play "TIC-TAC" you dont need to take the GYM long, share it with normal player so they wont report you for a cheating log. If you manage to take control of a gym dont put a strong guard pokemon which player's in your area could not bear to defeat it.
    6. be CONTENTED - realized this, rushing things wont gain you in the end, be contented with a bit slow and yet easy rather than an infinite loop(create-ban). dont set your mind that "nah i could easily recreate it". if you will compute you will lost most of your time recreate it rather than taking it slow and yet safe.



    GREED IS GOOD, BUT ONLY WISE PEOPLE GET AWAY WITH IT. BE SAFE, BE SMART, TIME IS GOLD SO USE IT AT BEST!!

    Sorry for my long letter and bad english
    Last edited by paperjam; 08-15-2016 at 10:31 PM.

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    You could have added a potato.


    You're welcome.


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    Last edited by HolySabao; 08-16-2016 at 01:11 AM.

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    Some of my botted accounts survived. I think the moral of the story is to just bot harder with multiple accounts. Niantic can't catch them all.

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