Possible (NOT CONFIRMED) Wildstar Account Scam - Kawaii

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Ownedcore Name: Kawaii
Skype Name: kawaiioc
Paypal Name: N/A
Other payment method: Bitcoins
Ownedcore scam link: http://www.ownedcore.com/forums/mmo-...game-time.html (Wildstar Deluxe Account With 1 Year Game Time)

Other sites scam link: N/A

Did you use a middleman?: No

Explain what happened: Bought the account (I sent the money first since he seemed trustworthy. I am also a trustworthy seller / buyer with a good amount of feedback on another trading forum. I promptly received all the info and he seemed like a very nice guy. Two days later I attempted to log into the account from my friends computer, but didn't know that Wildstar used an IP system to prevent scammers from getting into your account. The password was then reset for some reason and I contacted him. He keeps giving me the same password, and I have literally copied/pasted, typed the account/password in the exact way that he told me to and I can't log in. Also, he is very slow w/ communication. Takes him a day+ to respond to me.

Proof:

"[6/8/14 11:59:39 PM] Kawaii - .:
hello
[6/8/14 11:59:57 PM] simmination: hi, i was wondering if you still had the wildstar account for sale
[6/9/14 12:00:02 AM] simmination: would pay via btc
[6/9/14 12:03:28 AM] Kawaii - .: I do, how much are you offering?
[6/9/14 12:04:32 AM] simmination: $65
[6/9/14 12:06:49 AM] simmination: or a league plat 2 league account, diamond 1 last season
[6/9/14 12:07:14 AM] simmination: don't have an account on owned core, but have an account on epic npc w/ feedback
[6/9/14 12:25:24 AM] Kawaii - .: I have a a fe diamond accounts already 
[6/9/14 12:25:33 AM] Kawaii - .: Okay, I'll do 65 btc one second
[6/9/14 12:25:53 AM] Kawaii - .: ***********************- My wallet
[6/9/14 12:26:11 AM] simmination: kk logging onto my cb
[6/9/14 12:28:07 AM] simmination: sent
[6/9/14 12:28:10 AM] simmination: .1 btc
[6/9/14 12:28:14 AM] Kawaii - .: Got it
[6/9/14 12:28:34 AM] Kawaii - .: I'll change the password for you, give me 2 seconds
[6/9/14 12:28:37 AM] simmination: okay cool
[6/9/14 12:30:14 AM] Kawaii - .: **************:**************
[6/9/14 12:30:28 AM] simmination: awesome
[6/9/14 12:30:30 AM] simmination: tyvm!
[6/9/14 12:30:41 AM] simmination: logged in, works
[6/9/14 12:30:43 AM] Kawaii - Enjoy friend, let me know if it asks for the verification code
[6/9/14 12:30:49 AM] simmination: will do!
[6/9/14 12:31:17 AM] simmination: need the verification code hhe
[6/9/14 12:31:36 AM] Kawaii - : ********
[6/9/14 12:31:42 AM] simmination: thanks!
[6/9/14 12:31:46 AM] Kawaii -.: Anytime
[6/11/14 11:23:10 AM] simmination: i have a question about the account, for the deluxe account it says that the account runs out of time next month but the current subscription plan is billed every 12 months
[6/11/14 11:23:35 AM] simmination: so the account will continuously renew itself for 12 months?
[6/11/14 11:25:10 AM] Kawaii - .: It's all paid for so I'm guessing it will just say it will renew in a year after this month since you get 1 free month with deluxe
[6/11/14 11:25:20 AM] simmination: ahh makes sense
[6/11/14 11:25:23 AM] simmination: gotchya, thanks!
[6/11/14 11:25:27 AM] Kawaii - .: Anytime pal
[6/11/14 11:39:19 AM] simmination: i see it under transaction history, thanks!
[6/11/14 11:44:01 AM] Kawaii - .: If you are interested in another account I have 1 left, I also have steam games and origin accounts 
[6/11/14 3:19:28 PM] simmination: hi
[6/11/14 3:19:33 PM] simmination: i was wondering if you could possibly verify
[6/11/14 3:19:36 PM] simmination: the email from wildstar
[6/11/14 3:19:48 PM] simmination: sent to ****************
[6/11/14 3:21:05 PM] simmination: trying to change info
[6/11/14 3:29:00 PM] simmination: and it won't me log in my from my friends house :\
[6/11/14 3:59:02 PM] simmination: is it possible to change the e-mail on the account? sorry for all the questions
[6/12/14 6:17:00 AM] Kawaii - Available .: It sent me a pssword reset link
[6/12/14 6:17:07 AM] Kawaii - Available : The new pass is **********
[6/12/14 10:53:49 AM] simmination: okay cool, thanks!
[6/12/14 11:15:31 AM] simmination: i can't login to the account, "We were unable to verify your login. Either your login information was entered incorrectly, or the account system is currently unavailable. Please check the normal downtime schedule and announcements."
[6/12/14 1:20:49 PM] simmination: i sent another pw reset, sorry bout the hassle
[6/13/14 12:29:19 PM] simmination: hello?"


[6/13/14 11:22:21 PM] Kawaii - Available .: Okay. There is no password reset in the email, the password is ' ************* '
[6/13/14 11:22:37 PM] Kawaii - Available .: Sorry for the delay I was away from my PC.
[6/14/14 6:39:27 PM] simmination: pw still isn't working :\
[6/14/14 6:39:33 PM] simmination: copy and pasted it, typed it in, etc
[6/14/14 6:39:40 PM] simmination: ********************
[6/15/14 3:12:52 AM] Kawaii - Available -.: I literally just logged into it, it is working.
[6/15/14 3:12:56 AM] Kawaii - Available -.: ***********
[6/15/14 3:12:59 AM] Kawaii - Available -.: ***************
[6/15/14 10:56:20 PM] simmination: does not working for me, tried everyone possible form of the word
[6/15/14 10:56:26 PM] simmination: work*
[6/15/14 10:56:48 PM] simmination: every possible*
[6/16/14 4:14:31 AM] Kawaii -.: I just logged into it again ***************:*************
[6/17/14 6:56:44 PM] simmination: is there any possible way you could try resetting the password. I'm really sorry. i've tried at least 40+ times using that combo. copy and pasted exactly, and i know I'm putting it in exactly how you're spelling it

Don't want to call him a scammer, but it's possible that I'm out of $65. I messaged him five-six hours ago, he posted in a thread on here four hours ago.

[Kawaii]

Not my problem. You had the email changed by contacting the support of Wildstar, I have no access to the account.

I will kindly ask you to remove you negative reputation since this is not my fault and I have absolutely no access to the account 6/18/2014

Thank you - Kawaii

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Not my problem. You had the email changed by contacting the support of Wildstar, I have no access to the account.

I will kindly ask you to remove you negative reputation since this is not my fault and I have absolutely no access to the account 6/18/2014

Thank you - Kawaii

I didn't contact Wildstar?

And I lost access to the account on June 11th, you replied on the 12th with the info.

[6/12/14 6:17:00 AM] Kawaii - Available .: It sent me a pssword reset link
[6/12/14 6:17:07 AM] Kawaii - Available .: The new pass is ************

And you did have access to the account:

"[6/15/14 3:12:52 AM] Kawaii - Available -.: I literally just logged into it, it is working.
[6/15/14 3:12:56 AM] Kawaii - Available -.: *********** (password)
[6/15/14 3:12:59 AM] Kawaii - Available -.: *************** "


I lost access to the account on June 11th and never regained access to it. You were able to access it on the 15th.

I don't see how you can log onto the account and I can't, even though I copy and pasted the same exact acct and password that you gave me.

You saying that "you have no access to the account", makes no sense, unless by you no longer having access to the account means that you sold it to someone else after recalling the account from my posession.

I will remove the negative feedback when you provide adequate proof that you cannot access the account or retrieve the account that I paid for in any way.

[Kawaii]

I didn't contact Wildstar?

And I lost access to the account on June 11th, you replied on the 12th with the info.

[6/12/14 6:17:00 AM] Kawaii - Available .: It sent me a pssword reset link
[6/12/14 6:17:07 AM] Kawaii - Available .: The new pass is ************

And you did have access to the account:

"[6/15/14 3:12:52 AM] Kawaii - Available -.: I literally just logged into it, it is working.
[6/15/14 3:12:56 AM] Kawaii - Available -.: *********** (password)
[6/15/14 3:12:59 AM] Kawaii - Available -.: *************** "


I lost access to the account on June 11th and never regained access to it. You were able to access it on the 15th.

I don't see how you can log onto the account and I can't, even though I copy and pasted the same exact acct and password that you gave me.

You saying that "you have no access to the account", makes no sense.

Those messages were 3 days ago, you never messaged me since. You have access to the account. Also you did contact support because before it was off of my email I got the email stating the ticket was closed.

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Those messages were 3 days ago, you never messaged me since. You have access to the account. Also you did contact support because before it was off of my email I got the email stating the ticket was closed.

I have contacted you, yesterday in fact. It's just pretty hard to communicate with you when you reply once every other day.

[6/15/14 10:56:20 PM] simmination: does not working for me, tried everyone possible form of the word
[6/15/14 10:56:26 PM] simmination: work*
[6/15/14 10:56:48 PM] simmination: every possible*
[6/16/14 4:14:31 AM] Kawaii - Available .: I just logged into it again **********:************
[6/17/14 6:56:44 PM] simmination: is there any possible way you could try resetting the password. I'm really sorry. i've tried at least 40+ times using that combo. copy and pasted exactly, and i know I'm putting it in exactly how you're spelling it

I didn't submit any ticket at all, I left the account how it was. Wasn't able to sign in after I logged in from my friends house which is why I requested the new password.

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So based on what happened.

You're not the original owner because if a ticket (which I don't get because I didn't put in any ticket at all) went in to have the e-mail changed, it would go to you no? Something that you never mentioned to me.

The account never had "12 months" on it. The subscription was "active" on it, but not paid for which means that you could've taken the 12 months off at any time before it renewed. So you basically advertised the account as having 12 months of play time on it, which it did not until it re-billed and it could've been cancelled at any time by getting the account recalled.

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So I'm pretty much out of an account and the $65 I paid for it.

You're pretty active on these forums, but when I try to contact you on skype it takes you anywhere from 1-2 days to respond.

Whatever, it's fine, I'm tired of trying to get the account back.

[Kawaii]

I am the original owner, and infact I had a wildstar shop on this site. You sent in a ticket to change the email and it was successfully changed so now you think you can make a fake scam report about me to get your money back, you're wrong.

Now, I'd appreciate it if you closed this threat and removed the negative reputation from me. Thank you

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I am the original owner, and infact I had a wildstar shop on this site. You sent in a ticket to change the email and it was successfully changed so now you think you can make a fake scam report about me to get your money back, you're wrong.

Now, I'd appreciate it if you closed this threat and removed the negative reputation from me. Thank you

I don't understand how this is a "threat".

Okay, let me write down in number format so you can understand what I'm trying to say.

1. I bought the account.
2. I signed in, worked for two days.
3. I tried to sign in from my friends computer, IP protection thing blocked me from accessing the account.
4. Went home, changed my information (address, etc etc.)
5. Played that night and went to sleep.
6. Next day, woke up tried to login: received "We were unable to verify your login. Either your login information was entered incorrectly, or the account system is currently unavailable. Please check the normal downtime schedule and announcements."
7. I messaged you, you replied the next day with the new password, it didn't work.
8. I sent another password change, you said you didn't receive it and that you could log in with the password that you gave me before.
9. I kept trying over and over again to get into the account with the password you gave me. Didn't work.


I never ONCE threatened you OR asked for my money back. I asked for ACCESS to the ACCOUNT back which you still obviously had on JUNE 15. I lost ACCESS to the ACCOUNT on JUNE 11. That's a FOUR DAY gap of where you had access to the account and I did not.

Now, I'd appreciate it if you provide adequate proof that you do not have access to the account and that I was not scammed out of the account, thank you. Only then will I remove the negative feedback. I don't even care about the account or money at this point. The fact that you're trying to turn this into making it seem like it was MY fault is what's aggravating me. Dealing with you is like dealing with Blizzard's support system.

[Kawaii]

I don't understand how this is a "threat".

Okay, let me write down in number format so you can understand what I'm trying to say.

1. I bought the account.
2. I signed in, worked for two days.
3. I tried to sign in from my friends computer, IP protection thing blocked me from accessing the account.
4. Went home, changed my information (address, etc etc.)
5. Played that night and went to sleep.
6. Next day, woke up tried to login: received "We were unable to verify your login. Either your login information was entered incorrectly, or the account system is currently unavailable. Please check the normal downtime schedule and announcements."
7. I messaged you, you replied the next day with the new password, it didn't work.
8. I sent another password change, you said you didn't receive it and that you could log in with the password that you gave me before.
9. I kept trying over and over again to get into the account with the password you gave me. Didn't work.


I never ONCE threatened you OR asked for my money back. I asked for ACCESS to the ACCOUNT back which you still obviously had on JUNE 15. I lost ACCESS to the ACCOUNT on JUNE 11. That's a FOUR DAY gap of where you had access to the account and I did not.

Now, I'd appreciate it if you provide adequate proof that you do not have access to the account and that I was not scammed out of the account, thank you. Only then will I remove the negative feedback. I don't even care about the account or money at this point. The fact that you're trying to turn this into making it seem like it was MY fault is what's aggravating me. Dealing with you is like dealing with Blizzard's support system.

Not my fault you lost access to it, I gave you the password when you reset it. I will have the rep removed. I'm done with this, thank you - Kawaii

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"I will be removing you as a contact due to false scam reports with invalid proof/any proof at all. Thank you - Kawaii"

Lol. Such terrible service.

"Not my fault you lost access to it".

I lost access to the account because you recalled the account.

I'm done with this too, goodbye.

http://www.epic npc .com/itrader.php?u=8659

Had 40+ successful sales/buys before marquee changed to epic. Been in the business for longer than you, back when marqueedragon was still up. I have no reason to scam lol.

http://imgur.com/VStNkgt,av5hOE9,D9b...pdQK,fytDgG8#0

Here are the logs, didn't bother blacking out the info because the account/password doesn't even work.

[Dante]

After Kawaii blackmailed us I made the call to ban him.

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After Kawaii blackmailed us I made the call to ban him.

Thank you.