Scammer Martin.Saddam

[SNAA]

If you get in contact with anyone using the skype Martin.Saddam beware.
His most recent thread/post with the use of that skype name in the post.

http://www.ownedcore.com/forums/mmo/...kalandr-2.html (Buying POE orbs / currency/Mirror of Kalandr)

Do not buy or sell to this guy.

[12/13/2013 7:04:55 PM] Martin: Hi Chris 'Narrian' S, I'd like to add you as a contact. Martin
[12/14/2013 4:51:31 PM] *** Chris 'Narrian' S has shared contact details with Martin. ***
[12/14/2013 4:51:34 PM] Chris 'Narrian' S: Hi
[12/14/2013 4:51:57 PM] Chris 'Narrian' S: sorry for the delay, I just worked 2-11, and then turned around a few hours later, after sleeping 4hours and worked 7am-4pm
[12/15/2013 3:38:28 PM] Martin: oh alright
[12/15/2013 3:38:40 PM] Martin: i just want to check if u still hold any orbs for sale
[12/15/2013 4:28:19 PM] Chris 'Narrian' S: yes
[12/15/2013 4:28:22 PM] Chris 'Narrian' S: I have all 31 left
[12/15/2013 4:28:31 PM] Martin: ex ?
[12/15/2013 4:28:33 PM] Chris 'Narrian' S: yes
[12/15/2013 4:28:47 PM] Martin: well .cool
[12/15/2013 4:28:50 PM] Martin: what's the price atm
[12/15/2013 4:28:59 PM] Chris 'Narrian' S: $250 US for all
[12/15/2013 4:29:42 PM] Martin: well . so it's 8$ each
[12/15/2013 4:29:44 PM] Chris 'Narrian' S: If you dont wanna buy all, gimme a number, and ill give you a price, but I discounted it quite a bit for bulk.
[12/15/2013 4:30:32 PM] Martin: yeah . it's okey
[12/15/2013 4:30:36 PM] Martin: got any chaos in stock ?
[12/15/2013 4:31:04 PM] Chris 'Narrian' S: I think i have around 20, let me log on and check real quick
[12/15/2013 4:31:24 PM] Martin: alright
[12/15/2013 4:33:05 PM] Chris 'Narrian' S: I have 21 chaos, but also 53 Alchemy orbs, and 40 fusings, that I can trade up to chaos quick
[12/15/2013 4:33:57 PM] Martin: oh . okey
[12/15/2013 4:34:05 PM] Martin: exchange it to chaos plz
[12/15/2013 4:34:07 PM] Chris 'Narrian' S: okay
[12/15/2013 4:45:09 PM] Chris 'Narrian' S: I have 53 chaos now
[12/15/2013 4:45:19 PM] Martin: okey .cool
[12/15/2013 4:45:22 PM] Martin: get all ready ?
[12/15/2013 4:45:41 PM] Chris 'Narrian' S: So you looking to buy all exalts, and chaos?
[12/15/2013 4:45:48 PM] Chris 'Narrian' S: 31 exalts, 53 chaos
[12/15/2013 4:45:51 PM] Martin: yeah
[12/15/2013 4:46:06 PM] Chris 'Narrian' S: you okay with .31/chaos?
[12/15/2013 4:46:24 PM] Martin: yeap
[12/15/2013 4:46:29 PM] Martin: so how much money in total man
[12/15/2013 4:46:37 PM] Chris 'Narrian' S: $266
[12/15/2013 4:46:45 PM] Martin: okey
[12/15/2013 4:46:48 PM] Martin: how to do this trade
[12/15/2013 4:46:51 PM] Chris 'Narrian' S: whats your ign?
[12/15/2013 4:47:01 PM] Chris 'Narrian' S: ingame name
[12/15/2013 4:47:42 PM] Martin: Honimokbibud
[12/15/2013 4:47:49 PM] Martin: honimokbonid
[12/15/2013 4:48:14 PM] Chris 'Narrian' S: I added you, and invited to part
[12/15/2013 4:48:29 PM] Martin: yeah . i see
[12/15/2013 4:48:35 PM] Chris 'Narrian' S: Are you cool with sending money ffirst?
[12/15/2013 4:48:47 PM] Martin: alright
[12/15/2013 4:48:51 PM] Martin: can u show me orbs first
[12/15/2013 4:48:54 PM] Martin: and paypal /
- Paypal email omitted
[12/15/2013 4:50:03 PM] Martin: okey
[12/15/2013 4:50:06 PM] Martin: wait a min plz
[12/15/2013 4:50:09 PM] Chris 'Narrian' S: np
[12/15/2013 4:50:54 PM] Chris 'Narrian' S: heh, random mob killed you
[12/15/2013 4:51:41 PM] Martin: damn
[12/15/2013 4:51:52 PM] Martin: join party and come in
[12/15/2013 4:51:59 PM] Chris 'Narrian' S: you went to standard
[12/15/2013 4:52:05 PM] Chris 'Narrian' S: have to make char on nemesis
[12/15/2013 4:52:14 PM] Martin: damn .secs
[12/15/2013 4:52:16 PM] Chris 'Narrian' S: np
[12/15/2013 4:58:21 PM] Martin: wait a min man
[12/15/2013 4:58:24 PM] Martin: going to send u money
[12/15/2013 4:58:27 PM] Chris 'Narrian' S: okay
[12/15/2013 5:04:40 PM] Martin: u there man ?
[12/15/2013 5:04:45 PM] Chris 'Narrian' S: yep
[12/15/2013 5:04:55 PM] Martin: sent u the money
[12/15/2013 5:04:56 PM] Martin: check plz
[12/15/2013 5:05:00 PM] Chris 'Narrian' S: yep, i got it
[12/15/2013 5:05:03 PM] Chris 'Narrian' S: sent trade request
[12/15/2013 5:05:28 PM] Martin: get it
[12/15/2013 5:05:31 PM] Chris 'Narrian' S: thanks man
[12/15/2013 5:05:39 PM] Martin: thank you too
[12/15/2013 5:05:43 PM] Martin: ill u stock in future ?
[12/15/2013 5:05:54 PM] Chris 'Narrian' S: Not this season, maybe next.
[12/15/2013 5:06:02 PM] Chris 'Narrian' S: Im taking a break, just selling inventory
[12/15/2013 5:06:04 PM] Martin: alright ...
[12/15/2013 5:06:06 PM] Martin: i see
[12/15/2013 5:06:09 PM] Martin: thx anyway
[12/15/2013 5:06:11 PM] Martin: btw
[12/15/2013 5:06:12 PM] Chris 'Narrian' S: yep
[12/15/2013 5:06:36 PM] Martin: if u can get me from somewhere . i can pay u tip or higher price
[12/15/2013 5:07:17 PM] Chris 'Narrian' S: okay, ill ask around my friends
[12/15/2013 5:07:30 PM] Chris 'Narrian' S: ill msg, you on here, and send them your way if they do.
[12/15/2013 5:07:49 PM] Martin: okey . thank you

Today, I find out that the $266 was reversed, http://imgur.com/B2249Ur image of the original payment on the 15th, and then the reversal on Jan. 10th

Shouldnt need anymore proof. This ones pretty much locked up. Currently on the phone with Paypal to figure out how to go about this, but im not paying paypal the $266 dollars, I know that much.

While yes, Im pretty pissed and still working to get this resolved, im just giving everyone else a heads up so it doesnt happen to them.

His IP, and location: Not sure if allowed, but here it is anyways, ****s given: 0.
Geolocation for 183.23.136.179 :


Hostname : 183.23.136.179
ISP : China Telecom Guangdong

City : Guangzhou
Region : Guangdong
Country Name : China
Country Code : CN
Longitude : 113.25
Latitude : 23.116699

[SNAA]

Comes on skype, plays dumb, and then removes me, and blocks me. ROFL, talking about he doesnt know what im talking about, he knows exactly what im talking about, and got caught and called out.

[somaliasky]

Chinese IP and English Name~_~ Big red flag there...

[Watcher]

Thank you for reporting it. Member awyiekudroac is banned from ownedcore + he is caught with a lot of proxies.

But next time make screenshot of the skype convo with his profile open to see if it's matching.

[SNAA]

Chinese IP and English Name~_~ Big red flag there...

While yes, I was under the impression that gifted services wasn't reversible, but apparently paypal allows people to dispute it as an unauthorized payment, and will reverse the payment.

Also, he added me on skype from my thread, and I didnt check his IP prior. And as I said, it shouldnt have been an issue but apparently paypal has changed policy recently. While if i get this resolved and dont have to pay paypal $266, ill probably sell more shit for something in the future, if you have any other ways of stopping people from reversing payments tips would be appreciated.

[somaliasky]

While yes, I was under the impression that gifted services wasn't reversible, but apparently paypal allows people to dispute it as an unauthorized payment, and will reverse the payment.

Also, he added me on skype from my thread, and I didnt check his IP prior. And as I said, it shouldnt have been an issue but apparently paypal has changed policy recently. While if i get this resolved and dont have to pay paypal $266, ill probably sell more shit for something in the future, if you have any other ways of stopping people from reversing payments tips would be appreciated.

" paypal has changed policy recently"
It`s been like this for years. The best way is to deal with professional dealer since there is really no way to stop it. The professional deal just take this as business loss. Heck, even Walmart get chargebacked ~_~