World of Warcraft: Cataclysm

[Adrolak2]

if this really is the next expansion, then when do you guys think blizzard will announce it, or do you guys think this isn't even remoting possible. AND when do you think the alpha will be "leaked"? lol I hope it's soon...

[Adrolak2]

by the way Aion requires a good rig in order to play, really good graphics, so idc many people will be switching that have bad rigs.

[ChaoticRogue]

idk i think that certain classes dont pair with certain races for example a tauren rogue, to big and cumbersome, a gnome shaman idk since gnomes arent horde and arent spiritually active (shamans are like the horde representatives for the tribes to the gods or whatever they believe in) however there might certain changes coming along that we didnt expect so idk we will see

[Emilie Autumn]

Wow this is not what i expected when we were told cataclysm, it sounds really nice idea, basically putting us back where the warcraft began fighting a huge war on an doorstep of our capital cities.

To be honest, I think Blizzard can't add another expansion without another Hero Class. Their entire system is based around 'HERO_CLASS' yet atm they only have one, the Deathknight. I think they will be adding another one with the next xpac but that's just me.

yeah there was a press release from blizzard where they mentioned the enxt hero class being in a patch following the expansion not the expansion out of the box.

Other points I find hard to believe: Thrall being captured by the Alliance? Orgrimmar being destroyed? Unlikely.

- Night Elf Mage. I do find this highly unlikely, as Tyrande forbids it and she was present during the entire War of the Ancients. However, I think if they were (lore-wise) able to keep a tight hold on it, and it could aid after this supposed cataclysmic event I think it might be allowed again.

Thrall being captured by the alliance is that unlikely, an alliance mge takes on jainas form aranges a meeting with thrall and has him captured. Wrynn was captured on his way to a meeting with the horde. hell wrynn has come 2 feet from killing the green bastard twice, why not a third time?

When you think about it the races are WELL known for breaking bonds when it comes to defeating higher powers =P

I call bullshit. Too much profit staying neutral for goblins, too much evil for worgen to team up with anyone, too much work for Blizzard to change old areas. Night Elf mage is 100% impossible, as are any old races becoming paladins (In fact, other than humans you shouldn't really get paladins, but that's another talk for another day). Oh, and Thrall becoming Guardian of Tirisfal is also a crock full of shit. Guardians are chosen at birth, it's a bloodline, and the last one was Medivh. There are no more guardians. Also, they wouldn't randomly remove Cairne, that's just someone's wishful thinking. Where's Alkhara Marjere when you need him to point out the billions of flaws in all this crap speculation?

Re-read what they said about goblins. if theyre choice is stay neutral and fend for themselves, or take the mighty Horde on to protect them from slavery under death wing. where do you choose to go? if they remained neutral they would be stuck on theyre own and be enslaved or killed very quickly.

Worgen are already well placed for this. the curse done by Arugal on the vilage of (pyrewood?) only takes effect at night, during the day they are totally normal humans, friendly to alliance, performing basic services. If a elixr was created to allow the Gilneans controll of theyre minds during the night then its already done.

Its not as much work to revamp azeroth as it is to create an entire new continent, building models, skins, so on and so forth.

The Night elves were mages before the Great Sundering. they swore off it because of the destruction. but now that night elves are mortal again, there will be plenty who will want to re-embrace theyre mana controlling ways before it is tolate for them and they pass away.

Paladins are not even slightly human specific, a paladin is a warrior priest. they were began during the second war when people where trying to send priest i nto the abttle fieeld and found them dying easily for lack of skill. a group (silver hand) took too wearing plate and weilding weapons with the light. there were dwarves in this first group. by all means all you need to be a paladin is skill in the mele and the willpower to controll the light.

Thrall as gaurdian is very possible. rememebr people when medivh tried to help the world and warn about the legions return, Thtrall was the ffirst to lsiten, and at the time he was not a great warlord he is today he was the son of one. Medivh would have ahd too look into the future to choose thrall as one the one he would push to lead the new horde, why would medivh not have chosen thrall then? with all the strife in EK a tthe time it wouldnt ahve been a simple hand the torch to an orc when he was born you realise.

there was no randomly removing Cairne as you said it, they pointed out in that post taht there was political agression, and cairne and thrall where the two horde leaders strongly aiming at peace with others. Gorosh couldnt touch thrall because of the strong honor bonds between the orcs. but Cairne being of another race wouldnt fall into the lines of being protected by honor, the second that thralls out of the way, hes got free reign.

I would laugh if this was how it turns out. This totally screws up a lot of lore, Thrall the next Guardian? Deathwing died, so idk wtf he's doing. The naga stuff checks out I believe, but Garrosh killing Cairne? I remember Cairne talking about Baine in WC3. I don't really know what to say to this.

well yeah but we killed kael'thas and he came abck from the dead. mal'gani was kileld a few times over too.

Raids - The Obsidian Sanctum the last paragraph mentions deathwing still hiding inside of Grim Batol.




LAST BUT NOT LEAST!!
i must point out all lore isnt a total 100% truth to you. fact is that ALOT of everything in the lore has massive holes in it, not to mention old msitakes and promises cant dictate the truth of the future. it happens in real life too, all of the major countries of our world make mistakes that are seen in history. or break traditions that were kept for so long. Blizzard can add stuff in adn it is still lore. tellign blizzard they broke lore is like telling a god he that he made a change(no im not beign religious here jsut an aexample nto aimed at any god in particular) would taht change not be totally justified?

[Mung Daal]

if this really is the next expansion, then when do you guys think blizzard will announce it, or do you guys think this isn't even remoting possible. AND when do you think the alpha will be "leaked"? lol I hope it's soon...

Blizzcon '09 is coming soon, very soon. So wait and we may get a surprise
But I just think this is getting overhyped and allot of shit content is being made up.
I do hope for Worgens, I mean come on, a wolf-man? Epic.

[Elites360]

Aion Sucks.

[shibly]

That should be cool worg mage :P level 90

[Emilie Autumn]

lol i just thought of something good too say. to those of you say its all made up. well yeah its a FICTIONAL game =D

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WOW that was soooo smart .. not

[aukid32]

I read that before you posted it and I can say... BULLSHIT.


Guys, none of this will ever happen. Just look at the classes, they all contradict the lore of their own race! How will Tauren use the Light? How will night elfs be mages when they ****ING HATE THEM, because it's their mages that caused the Sundering (seperating the continents and destroying most of the night elf land). Those that wanted to be mages became high elves and then the high elves became blood elves.

So, no.


Blood Elf Warrior cannot happen. As much as you think it can.


Lol Troll Druid? Lol Dwarf SHAMAN? Why don't they just make Tauren Rogues, or better yet, Gnome Druids and Shamans?


@#$%?!


It's not true, whoever believes MMO Champ with their "RELIABLE SOURCES" should smash his head in the keyboard right NOW!

Since when did blizzard care about lore?

[Cerian]

Paladins are not even slightly human specific, a paladin is a warrior priest. they were began during the second war when people where trying to send priest i nto the abttle fieeld and found them dying easily for lack of skill. a group (silver hand) took too wearing plate and weilding weapons with the light. there were dwarves in this first group. by all means all you need to be a paladin is skill in the mele and the willpower to controll the light.

Hate to burst your bubble there sugar plum, however The Order of the Silver Hand was formed after the first war, and not while the battle of the second war was taking place. They did however play a huge role in the second war.

And no, there weren't any dwarves nor any other races except for humans among The Order of the Silver Hand in the beginning, it took a while before The Order of the Silver Hand welcomed the dwarves.

Alexandros Mograine said after obtaining The Ashbringer from King Magni that if any of the other races should offer their help The Order of the Silver hand would accept it, eventhough some of the other knights disagreed, to quote High General Abbendis: "It is not for the lesser races to meddle in the affairs of men"
Zabra Hexx was the first of other races that was known (which we know of) to follow the path of the light, and he was, as the name suggests, a troll.

After Alexandros' death Lord Tyrosus left The Order of the Silver Hand and formed The Argent Dawn which consisted of not only dwarves and humans, but instead welcomed all races. Not all of its members are blessed by the light, but if one is faithful I bet that the Light will bless them, seing as it has already blessed Zabra Hexx. So as much as it pains me to say it, tauren's could indeed become paladins.

[ViND_]

Emilie Autumn, until now I was looking at your posts and you were totally against all of this. You saw that you lost the argument with that guy in the other thread (or was it this one) and now you are "switching sides" just so that you don't look bad?

And no, Thrall CANNOT become the Guardian. The Guardians are a bloodline, Medivh was the last of them. The LAST Guardian.

So no, it isn't true, as a lot of stuff in this "leak" aren't.

[gothikaboy]

This is fake, and i have proof to a little part .

"Flying in Azeroth
Part of the redesign of the Eastern Kingdoms and Kalimdor is the introduction of flying to the two continents, allowing access to many new areas and quicker travelling across the large continents."

Have you guys seen Azeroth from above?
Well, I have and it's not looking good (this was on a private server with flying mounts in azeroth)

[Emilie Autumn]

Hate to burst your bubble there sugar plum, however The Order of the Silver Hand was formed after the first war, and not while the battle of the second war was taking place. They did however play a huge role in the second war.

And no, there weren't any dwarves nor any other races except for humans among The Order of the Silver Hand in the beginning, it took a while before The Order of the Silver Hand welcomed the dwarves.

Alexandros Mograine said after obtaining The Ashbringer from King Magni that if any of the other races should offer their help The Order of the Silver hand would accept it, eventhough some of the other knights disagreed, to quote High General Abbendis: "It is not for the lesser races to meddle in the affairs of men"
Zabra Hexx was the first of other races that was known (which we know of) to follow the path of the light, and he was, as the name suggests, a troll.

After Alexandros' death Lord Tyrosus left The Order of the Silver Hand and formed The Argent Dawn which consisted of not only dwarves and humans, but instead welcomed all races. Not all of its members are blessed by the light, but if one is faithful I bet that the Light will bless them, seing as it has already blessed Zabra Hexx. So as much as it pains me to say it, tauren's could indeed become paladins.

well that's what i get for learning the paladin lore off wowwiki, had another look the page is nothing like it was when i saw it 2 years ago =/ lol. but eyah you came down to the same point still taurnes can be paladins any way hehe.

Emilie Autumn, until now I was looking at your posts and you were totally against all of this. You saw that you lost the argument with that guy in the other thread (or was it this one) and now you are "switching sides" just so that you don't look bad?

And no, Thrall CANNOT become the Guardian. The Guardians are a bloodline, Medivh was the last of them. The LAST Guardian.

So no, it isn't true, as a lot of stuff in this "leak" aren't.

Kiss my ass then re-read my posts i was pro expansion the whole way. and i like the idea of of a revamped azeroth alot better. i we went to maelstrom then we'd have killed off the last few bad guys too early. let the game expand liek tthey would be doing iff this comes true. and to point out a huge error in the "bloodline" thing, medivh was a powerful mage who is to say he didnt place the magic of this bloodline into thrall? bloodlines are changed made and broken all the time why cant a powerful time altering mage put it into thrall? and then again theres the other possibilty that thrall being BFF with jaina could have gotten him the title thanks too aegwynn being with her. jaina in fact has never stated why she trust thrall so deeply, could Aegwynn or Medivh not have unveiled the fact of his future to her? she didn't become hsi friend until AFTER medivh forced them to work together.

[Dragonshadow]

Hell if they wanted to the lore would let them have undead paladins.
And an undead pally would make more sense than a tauren pally (was once human/learned power of the sun from bloodelves/blessed by the argent dawn/etc)