New Rule: Using Pictures for Avatar

[kelat]

Wow you guys, I'm very disapointed in you! Just because we're females doesn NOT mean we get special treament! We have to put up with alot of shit on here because we are female actually, including shit like this.
Do you know how many ****ing stalkers we get on an everyday basis because of our sex from creepy people who cant seem to get laid?! You should leave gender issues OUT of MMOwned. We shouldn't have to do special shit just because you think we're getting 'treated better than men'.
I'm sorry if this sounded rude but its the truth! I actually find it alittle bit offencive hat this was brought up and I'm very suprised it was brought up my Matt his self!

Ban me for this post if you must, but know that I speak truth.

If it's that big a problem then don't tell people you're a girl.

And I think just creating a rule that no rep shall be given solely for girl avatars/sigs/possible pictures is sufficient.

[Acespades]

Wow you guys, I'm very disapointed in you! Just because we're females doesn NOT mean we get special treament! We have to put up with alot of shit on here because we are female actually, including shit like this.
Do you know how many ****ing stalkers we get on an everyday basis because of our sex from creepy people who cant seem to get laid?! You should leave gender issues OUT of MMOwned. We shouldn't have to do special shit just because you think we're getting 'treated better than men'.
I'm sorry if this sounded rude but its the truth! I actually find it alittle bit offencive hat this was brought up and I'm very suprised it was brought up my Matt his self!

Ban me for this post if you must, but know that I speak truth.

If you have a problem with stalkers on mmowned, Don't put a female avatar on your profile, or don't announce you are a girl. You have one down, now lets tackle the second one champ!

I will leave you with this... http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/7729/73570516fz6.png

[SpiritWolf]

If you have a problem with stalkers on mmowned, Don't put a female avatar on your profile, or don't announce you are a girl. You have one down, now lets tackle the second one champ!

I will leave you with this...

Well then. the person who's thingy you took a screenie of should get a warning or soemthing, I dont really care. But making us do stuff for you guys for shits and giggles like it seems is trying to be done is not fair. How about this, if your male you cant show your face on mmowned unles you are holding up a sign in the picture. does that sound fair? No it doesn't.
Just because your having some problems with people who want to get rep for female pictures doesnt mean that the rest of us females have to suffer with stupid tasks.
Some of the people on here have female photos that match their siggy and dont want to change it, even it its not really a picture of them. Others, like me, do not want to have to hold up a stupid sign that would actually cause us to recive more stalking private messages/emails because the people would have proof that we are female!
Holding up a sign to prove you're female is just an open invitation for trouble. As you stated, if you dont want to be stalked then don't announce your female. Wouldn't having to hold a sign announce that you are female though?
I for one do not have a picture of myself as an avatar because I like my wolf one >_> But that doesn't mean that this issue does not set me off! To me it sounds like you don't want females around on MMOwned! I really hope things that could be considered sexist, sush as this can be, does not happen again on MMOwned.

[Heftydogg]

Well then. the person who's thingy you took a screenie of should get a warning or soemthing, I dont really care. But making us do stuff for you guys for shits and giggles like it seems is trying to be done is not fair. How about this, if your male you cant show your face on mmowned unles you are holding up a sign in the picture. does that sound fair? No it doesn't.
Just because your having some problems with people who want to get rep for female pictures doesnt mean that the rest of us females have to suffer with stupid tasks.
Some of the people on here have female photos that match their siggy and dont want to change it, even it its not really a picture of them. Others, like me, do not want to have to hold up a stupid sign that would actually cause us to recive more stalking private messages/emails because the people would have proof that we are female!
Holding up a sign to prove you're female is just an open invitation for trouble. As you stated, if you dont want to be stalked then don't announce your female. Wouldn't having to hold a sign announce that you are female though?
I for one do not have a picture of myself as an avatar because I like my wolf one >_> But that doesn't mean that this issue does not set me off! To me it sounds like you don't want females around on MMOwned! I really hope things that could be considered sexist, sush as this can be, does not happen again on MMOwned.

QFT.

wow, that's a very good point. What difference would that make if people were getting repped with a girl's face in their avatar than if they went through the tasks to keep that face for their avatar.

Should just be a general rule that if someone is caught being repped because of their sex alone, that it's like rep trading.

Especially when Lex can make an impressive pic like that in no time at all that looks legit And he even got 2 responses saying he was hot LOL.

[Acespades]

Well then. the person who's thingy you took a screenie of should get a warning or soemthing, I dont really care. But making us do stuff for you guys for shits and giggles like it seems is trying to be done is not fair. How about this, if your male you cant show your face on mmowned unles you are holding up a sign in the picture. does that sound fair? No it doesn't.
Just because your having some problems with people who want to get rep for female pictures doesnt mean that the rest of us females have to suffer with stupid tasks.
Some of the people on here have female photos that match their siggy and dont want to change it, even it its not really a picture of them. Others, like me, do not want to have to hold up a stupid sign that would actually cause us to recive more stalking private messages/emails because the people would have proof that we are female!
Holding up a sign to prove you're female is just an open invitation for trouble. As you stated, if you dont want to be stalked then don't announce your female. Wouldn't having to hold a sign announce that you are female though?
I for one do not have a picture of myself as an avatar because I like my wolf one >_> But that doesn't mean that this issue does not set me off! To me it sounds like you don't want females around on MMOwned! I really hope things that could be considered sexist, sush as this can be, does not happen again on MMOwned.

You know if you would stop talking about your sex on mmowned you wouldn't get stalked.

The reason he wants girls to do it instead of guys was stated by yourself

Do you know how many ****ing stalkers we get on an everyday basis because of our sex from creepy people who cant seem to get laid?!

The girls on mmowned don't stalk the guys and rep them for their gender.
At least I would hope that they were mature enough not to.

I will repeat this. It shouldn't matter to you, seeing as you don't have a female pic on mmowned. Please stop turning mmowned into a major drama haven.

Matt is really against rep trading and giving unfair rep. This is his way of trying to fix it.

[SpiritWolf]

QFT.

wow, that's a very good point. What difference would that make if people were getting repped with a girl's face in their avatar than if they went through the tasks to keep that face for their avatar.

Should just be a general rule that if someone is caught being repped because of their sex alone, that it's like rep trading.

Especially when Lex can make an impressive pic like that in no time at all that looks legit And he even got 2 responses saying he was hot LOL.

Thank you X_x

[Heftydogg]

You know if you would stop talking about your sex on mmowned you wouldn't get stalked.

The reason he wants girls to do it instead of guys was stated by yourself

The girls on mmowned don't stalk the guys and rep them for their gender.
At least I would hope that they were mature enough not to.

I will repeat this. It shouldn't matter to you, seeing as you don't have a female pic on mmowned. Please stop turning mmowned into a major drama haven.

Matt is really against rep trading and giving unfair rep. This is his way of trying to fix it.

True rep trading is a problem, and as is unfair rep. But you can't control who gives rep to who. Leechers every day just troll the threads and say "Nice thanks" and don't rep for crap. But there's no way to regulate that.

But think about the reasoning that you're putting behind this suggestion: That people are being repped because they portray themselves as girls.

Now it's pointless to do this for that reason then, because the people that are girls IRL, will just put up their pic with a cute <3 MMOwned sign. And what do you think will happen after that? Is that like the passage to flirt for free rep? Which would make the issue even worse because it makes them stand out even more to the regular members like "Oh wow, she really is a girl if she's allowed to use that avatar. /rep /cyb3rz"

The only way to regulate the issue would be the same as it is for rep trading. Just keep tabs on suspicious people and if they slip up, proceed with proper infraction.

[Acespades]

True rep trading is a problem, and as is unfair rep. But you can't control who gives rep to who. Leechers every day just troll the threads and say "Nice thanks" and don't rep for crap. But there's no way to regulate that.

But think about the reasoning that you're putting behind this suggestion: That people are being repped because they portray themselves as girls.

Now it's pointless to do this for that reason then, because the people that are girls IRL, will just put up their pic with a cute <3 MMOwned sign. And what do you think will happen after that? Is that like the passage to flirt for free rep? Which would make the issue even worse because it makes them stand out even more to the regular members like "Oh wow, she really is a girl if she's allowed to use that avatar. /rep /cyb3rz"

The only way to regulate the issue would be the same as it is for rep trading. Just keep tabs on suspicious people and if they slip up, proceed with proper infraction.

True true, but by regulating the number of people with female avatars, we can eliminate some of the peoples profiles being watched.

[Dragon[Sky]]

Ok, I REALLY hate to break up my 1337 post count but...
Matt is referring to, as already stated, people pretending to be girls and/or actual girls that get rep for being a female.
We've had cases like, females getting contrib+ just for posting a pic of themselves in the RL pics thread (which is one of the main reasons rep in General Chat is disabled) or using an avatar (plenty of those cases) of themselves.
Now I don't wanna sound biased or something, I'm a girl myself and I refuse to post my picture on a gaming forum due to these reasons. I'd rather earn my rep by contributing.

What Matt is trying to do is to atleast decrease the number of attention whores (don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to insult anyone here).
Once again, not aimed at specific members or something.
You don't have to post a picture of yourself at all.
I'm not doing it.

/off to delete a post and get back 1337 post count

[Heftydogg]

True true, but by regulating the number of people with female avatars, we can eliminate some of the peoples profiles being watched.

Well considering I've never seen this being an issue myself before, and that the example you linked was 9 months old, and that the people who I know are girls on the site don't advertise it like they should get special treatment; it would be a lot easier to just watch the 1 or two cases, if any, that are found/reported for abusing a female identity for rep, rather than scrolling through 215 thousand members and flagging any that have a female avatar to give the task to.

Also may be offensive to tell the person "Hey, you need to post a pic holding an MMOwned sign to prove to us you have a v.... ya" unless they are suspected for unfairly getting repped from it. In which case makes the the option of only keeping tabs on users where the free rep applies, the best method again.

[Innit]

Oh wow, you realise this now, I appreciate your apology for this meant to be posted into the staff section, but it does give us an insight.

I can name 'females', who I have proof are not, you only just caught onto this? I can name many who I wouldn't be able to, IF they were not female. This is not an insult, or meant to be offensive in any way. I just feel like staff need to take action quicker against stuff like this.

Just today I was explaining this to my girlfriend, and convinced her to make an account, if I provide bodyshots with proof(under1 will me+her get rep? I don't doubt that I will, it will always exist, because it has not been cracked down upon.

Note to all buttlickers - Girls still think your retarded, over the internet or not, how about you make some effort in your real life to look nice, not over the internet.

Don't try and shitstir on this post.

[Acespades]

Well considering I've never seen this being an issue myself before, and that the example you linked was 9 months old, and that the people who I know are girls on the site don't advertise it like they should get special treatment; it would be a lot easier to just watch the 1 or two cases, if any, that are found/reported for abusing a female identity for rep, rather than scrolling through 215 thousand members and flagging any that have a female avatar to give the task to.

Also may be offensive to tell the person "Hey, you need to post a pic holding an MMOwned sign to prove to us you have a v.... ya" unless they are suspected for unfairly getting repped from it. In which case makes the the option of only keeping tabs on users where the free rep applies, the best method again.

Why don't we just not allow rl pics at all then?

[arkanoid1988]

I think all all seriousness its probably a bit extreme

I doubt many guys pose to be girls, but IMO it is very very wierd having a girl avatar (and pretending to be one) ... just my take on it

[Acespades]

I doubt many guys pose to be girls, but IMO it is very very wierd having a girl avatar (and pretending to be one) ... just my take on it

You would be surprised.

[Heftydogg]

Why don't we just not allow rl pics at all then?

Could do that, since MMOwned isn't a personal Myspace-type site for users to post RL pics in the first place. And that way you're not discriminating towards anybody, but still. I don't think any new special rules need to be made for this. If the person is obvious enough (and by that I mean you can blatantly see in their latest +rep list that they've been given it for their sex), then it would be an easy fix to remove the rep and apply the infraction.

You can still pick out who's female (or pretending to be) through their chat. Generally from my experience girls will overuse smileys and talk correctly and flirt more if they have people's attention. Like let me use DSky as an example, you can tell that she's a female just by watching her talk in the SB. Like she said, she doesn't have to post a pic of herself as an avatar to convince or prove that she's female.

So even if there was a rule like that, people could still give the impression of feminism and be unfairly repped for it. You're just making it more general by adding in the factor of text.

Again, if mods want to be serious about cracking down on unfair rep due to people pretending to be girls, best thing to do is just take note if you see someone flamboyantly acting girly, and check if their rep is suspicious. This wouldn't be a lot of work, and could be reported also. Exactly like rep trading.

And really, it's also the person giving the rep who's at fault. Just like reptrading, there's 2 sides to it. Otherwise I could walk up to any user and +rep them and leave the rep comment as "You're cute!" and have them reported for it. Doesn't make much sense does it?