Sign this - help stop the war on drugs

[unknown1234]

Hello,

Not sure if this should be here on in the Off-Topic forum.

Oh well.

Avaaz - End the War on Drugs!*

To Ban Ki-moon and all Heads of State:

We call on you to end the war on drugs and the prohibition regime, and move towards a system based on decriminalisation, regulation, public health and education. This 50 year old policy has failed, fuels violent organised crime, devastates lives and is costing billions. It is time for a humane and effective approach.

inb4 drugs r bad mkay?

[Aldun]

Signed. But I can already tell you a petition like this won't do shit.

[KuRIoS]

Hello,

Not sure if this should be here on in the Off-Topic forum.

Oh well.

Avaaz - End the War on Drugs!*



inb4 drugs r bad mkay?

If there is a counterpart then I'll sign that... like "step up the war on drugs"

[Johnnydk]

I completely agree with KuRIoS, why would any non-addict sign for this petition, how does legalizing drugs benefit the world? Making it legal will make the world even worse than it is now, worst petition idea I have ever seen. Petitions are usually made with the purpose of correcting mistakes or abusive behaviours, this one it the opposite of what a petition should be like.

[Aldun]

I completely agree with KuRIoS, why would any non-addict sign for this petition, how does legalizing drugs benefit the world? Making it legal will make the world even worse than it is now, worst petition idea I have ever seen. Petitions are usually made with the purpose of correcting mistakes or abusive behaviours, this one it the opposite of what a petition should be like.

Either you got no clue what you're talking about or you're still some kid who isn't well informed.. Wait, that's actually the same. Anyway, we in holland got one of the 'easiest' laws on drugs, meaning a lot is legal etc, and if you compare the statistics you can see we got way less trouble with drugs (both criminal-related and hospital-related). Why does every drug user have to be an addict? That's like saying everyone who goes out is an alcoholic.

[unknown1234]

I posted the same link to the petition on another... known WoW forum...

War ensues, the thread has now turned into "my opinion is right, **** you" thread.

But eh, I won't argue, it's the internet afterall...

[Harambeqt]

Drugs are bad, drug dealers & people involved in that business should get banned. like right now & sent to jail

[unknown1234]

Drugs are bad, drug dealers & people involved in that business should get banned. like right now & sent to jail

I hope you're sarcastic.

If so...

THC KILLED MY MOTHER AND RAPED MY FATHER!

[Dr. Doom]

People are just ill informed, Ecstacy isn't as bad as people make it out to be, it doesn't burn holes in your brain, there is ONE study that has been debunked that tried to prove that.

Marijuana: honestly.. I'd rather have someone smoke weed than popping a bunch of ***** that have the same effect if not worse.

I know almost everybody drinks beer and what not, but alcohol does MORE damage to the brain than Marijuana does. There's studies that are peer reviewed and approved by people in the field of Toxicology and what not, done by UCSD, who can prove alcohol ruins brain cells as where Marijuana protecting brain cells from damage being done. There has just been a huge smear campaign here in the United States since they can't tax the shit.

Lets quit wasting money on putting "criminals" in jail for smoking/selling weed and using countless resources busting meth labs, coke dealers, heroin producers, drugs that actually do harm. Again, the study that showed alcohol ruining brain cells were people who binge drinked.

Knowing half the people on this website, there would be an out roar for a petition against drinking beer/hard alcohol, why? Because it's a biased opinion and they do it themselves. I don't do drugs, but I do drink.

[KuRIoS]

[COLOR="#fffacd"]People are just ill informed, Ecstacy isn't as bad as people make it out to be, it doesn't burn holes in your brain, there is ONE study that has been debunked that tried to prove that.

you are ill informed.. no one knows whats in a xtc pill.. every pill is different and there is no such thing as a "standard"

There's studies that are peer reviewed and approved by people in the field of Toxicology and what not, done by UCSD, who can prove alcohol ruins brain cells as where Marijuana protecting brain cells from damage being done.

Yeah and I can find studies that show that McDonalds is good for you.. - I myself used to smoke weed and did it on a regular basis for a few years.. (regular meaning 2-4 times a week) - believe me it is worse than alcohol.. also u can so clearly see someone who have smoked regularly - speech is slowed down, reactions are slowed and memory is ****ed.. You dont see that amongst the 20 year olds in denmark who just drink 2-5 days a week.


Sad thing is that the 13-17 year olds here thinks that its ****ing cool to smoke weed (like i used to think it was cool) I think a joint once in a while is okay (meaning 3-4 times a year) just like I think a lane of coke/speed is okay 3-4 times a year. But hell no I aint touching xtc anymore after having a friend go into a coma in my arms from one pill, where I had just taken 5.. I have put 0 of my friends into the ground because of alcohol, but 8 because of drugs.. 2 of them being "just Hash"

[Gnawnsense]

Yeah and I can find studies that show that McDonalds is good for you.. - I myself used to smoke weed and did it on a regular basis for a few years.. (regular meaning 2-4 times a week) - believe me it is worse than alcohol.. also u can so clearly see someone who have smoked regularly - speech is slowed down, reactions are slowed and memory is ****ed.. You dont see that amongst the 20 year olds in denmark who just drink 2-5 days a week.


Sad thing is that the 13-17 year olds here thinks that its ****ing cool to smoke weed (like i used to think it was cool) I think a joint once in a while is okay (meaning 3-4 times a year) just like I think a lane of coke/speed is okay 3-4 times a year. But hell no I aint touching xtc anymore after having a friend go into a coma in my arms from one pill, where I had just taken 5.. I have put 0 of my friends into the ground because of alcohol, but 8 because of drugs.. 2 of them being "just Hash"

you'll touch a line of coke, which is cut with you-have-no-idea-what anymore, but not ecstasy? it's wayyy easier to come by clean, legitimate beans than it is white, that's ridiculous.

and i've had my medical card for 3 years, been smoking green for 8. smoke every day, 4+ times a day for treatment. the stereotype of the shitty memory, slowed down speech, reactions slowed makes me laugh so much. i resemble or carry no such trait, it's amusing to lump that together and say, "THERE'S STONERS!!!" because that's all they portray on television and any kind of pop culture or media outlet. sure, there's been times when i've hit my vaporizer and literally been speechless after a few good hits, but that's not a lasting effect. my memory isn't gone, my speech is slurred or slowed. that's an active effect of consumption; compare that to someone who downs 6 shots of vodka and their effects... yea, nice comparison. don't downplay the effects of alcohol because they're only while you're drinking, pots the same way, and anyone who plays that "movie stoner" role where you're all "duuuuuuude brooooo <INSERTGIGGLES> i can't move broooooo, sooo highhh broooo" is acting.

and hash related deaths? really? hash is a product of trichomes from the unferitilzed buds of a pot plant. exact same ingredients as smoking a regular bowl and lighting it up, or rolling a spiff or blunt up and smoking it. it's just a higher concentration in hash as it's a prepared product, as opposed to smoking just pot, which is the natural form of it.

but, i've had 6 friends in the last 3 years die by drinking related accidents; getting hit by drunk drivers, them hitting someone, one guy drove his car through an apartment building and killed the 2 people in the front room. however, the worst thing that's happened to me when high, or anyone else i associate with (and they all smoke pot daily here in Oregon) is walking into the sliding glass door while it's closed on the way to get some burger king. seriously. or wanting another damn cigarette after i just smoked one. but alcohol does that to me, too.

[The Toxic Deer]

you are ill informed.. no one knows whats in a xtc pill.. every pill is different and there is no such thing as a "standard"

If it was legalized laws could be put into place to create a standard so no one gets hurt.
As for losing friends. Ive known many people who have died because of alcohol related problems (drunk driving, alcohol poisoning, accidents while drunk).

Know how many friends ive lost due to marijuana? 1. Because he was mixed up with drug dealers. Drug dealers who wouldnt be needed if it was legalized.

Only drugs i dont really support being legalized are meth and heroin.

Edit. Noticed Petition was for decrim not legalizing.

[dgrim]

This is me injecting my opinion that either noone will read, or noone will care about, and will possibly flame.

I feel like anyone who believes the stereotype for people who smoke pot (i.e. "slowed down, no memory") can't claim to have done it before, because the stereotype is most obviously not true. However, people are willing to believe the stereotype because of propoganda, both from the programs like AboveTheInfluence, and people like Kurios.

So, time for some fun facts.

"There has never been a documented case of marijuana overdose.

In order for a human to consume enough marijuana to be fatal, they would have to consume nearly 40,000 times the amount of THC required to intoxicate them. In contrast, it only requires about 5 to 10 times the amount of alcohol required to intoxicate, to be fatal. For example, if it requires 3 beers to intoxicate you, it only requires 15 to 30 beers to kill you. However, if it takes you 3 'hits' of marijuana to intoxicate you, it would require 120,000 hits to kill you. Thus, it is virtually impossible to die of a marijuana overdose.

Further, there is NO peer reviewed scientific evidence that shows that marijuana causes brain damage. There is NO peer reviewed scientific evidence that shows that marijuana damages the reproductive system. There is NO peer reviewed scientific evidence that shows that marijuana is a gateway drug. There is NO peer reviewed scientific evidence that shows that marijuana suppresses the immune system. "

However, if you Google Alcohol Related Deaths, there are 1.54 million hits. Coincidence? No. Alcohol, while proven to not kill brain cells, does slow brain function.

Did you know it's more likely to overdose on WATER than on marijuana?

Did you know that Marijuana has been proven to prevent cancer, where as tobacco (which is legal, by the way) is a leading cause of death in the world?

Instead of being misinformed, try reading every now and then.

[KuRIoS]

dgrim and gnawnsense : I Thought it was pretty obvious that it was MY opinion on the matter and how it affected me.. The thing with XTC vs Coke, well that is just because I like coke better than Xtc and I know that I prolly will get hooked from E again..
as i said I dont give a crap about "facts" as i can find facts that show McDonalds to be good for you.. and some people will argue that it is.. while u can clearly see the effects it has on their body..

Deaths from marijuana was because of a bad psychic state i would imagine..

[Confucius]

Did you know that Marijuana has been proven to prevent cancer, where as tobacco (which is legal, by the way) is a leading cause of death in the world?

I doubt that it prevents cancer, smoking anything is bad for you.