2pac ? b or c ?

[stradivuckos]

So what rock music have you listened to that makes you think all rock is about gruesome ritualistic death? and if you say Marilyn Manson i will kill you stone dead.

Lords?

[yoshi245]

People have their own tastes in music, that's fine.

Person A hates rap, good for them. Person B hates rock, that's great.

Leave it at that, at this point it's the anti-rap people can almost be racists. But does that mean they actually are? Of course not, there are plenty of black people who dislike rap as it desensitizes their race and gives a bad image of the: Fried chicken eating, watermelon loving, ghetto hood rat who loves bitches and hoes on their 24's, yappin about how they sell drugs and shoot people with their guns. But most people are ignorant to the fact rap/hip-hop these days done fell off from what it originally was. The genre was meant as a form of poetry of underprivileged people who came from nothing sharing their stories in a lyrical form over music. Putting their perspective of the world as a form of music. It's changed drastically over the years to what is now simply: Hip-pop. The crap that eats up the airwaves/internet with my aforementioned stereotypes(the guns, the money, the bitches, drug dealing, etc). Back then rap had a message, like a person no matter their environment to make it out and make something of themselves. From something as simply getting an education, or avoiding drugs, now it's a complete 180 where rappers are spitting lyrics about how many figures they make slangin crack.

If you're going to trash something, at least have research into it before making judgments on it, but fine, degrade something the way you are, it's just proving the fact that people who hate rap, hate what it is now, and good chance they'll hate it for the rest of their lives, whatever, keep your preference, I'll keep mine.

My knowledge of rock and it's origins is slim to nil, but if I find something I can enjoy, I listen to it. Otherwise, most of the stuff that is rock I don't really care for. That doesn't mean I hate it with a vengeance and simply add an intolerant view of it.

As for the Op's question. I never really cared about Tupac's gang affiliation. Suge Knight was a Blood from what I recall, and obviously snoop is a crip. Although I've seen Pac wear red too, not sure what to say. He was just a talented rapper as far as I can tell. Although, seeing as how he and his entourage did stomp out Orlando Anderson (who was a member of the Southside crips), it doesn't mean he's a B or a C per se.

These days though, hard to find a meaningful song that is relevant to real rap/hip-hop(of old). Very few artists that are even lyrically skilled, can put out a conscious message. So far 2 big mainstream rappers are the only ones I hear that can make real hip-hop. Kanye West and Common. There are a few other artists out there, but these 2 I find are the closest to it. There's also a song I hear recently that's getting a Grammy nomination too: NYOIL - Y'all Should All Get Lynched. It does have a poignant message of rap at it's state. Oh and I forgot one last rapper, Immortal Technique, that guy spits truth, he'd make a good spokesman for liberals too haha.

[rageelf]

Tupac as wore red multiple times. And some of the rappers who dont sing about bitches ho's money cars and guns are common and kanye like yoshi said but kanye does occasionly disrespect some women

[yoshi245]

Yea, Kanye will occasionally act like the Outspoken type from here to there, and switch off to the commonplace rapper spouting off about said subjects, but I'll give him his props, he's a talented rapper and can make some excellent songs.