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    johnstylez's Avatar Master Sergeant
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    CA, banned 22/22

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    Dank cellar .. 3/3 banned at 03:59 (gmt+1) .. no 24/7 runs... max 10h/day but eu+us running at the same time. i guess i have to run them different (eu/us)

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    anyone that lives in eastern united state got banned? or not in california.
    cause i think blizzard targeting around his main building first..
    i live 1h away from irvine so i am an easy target

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    Originally Posted by mmoservices View Post
    5 accounts banned (8 bots + no bot account (only for sell) 24/7 maybe 23/7 stoping bots all maintinence days .

    Botting 1 month+10 days without bans with IB core. No exploits.

    EDIT: all accounts banned offline... when i see the banwave i stoped all bots.. this prove bli$$ard flaged accounts.. if i restart booting i go to 24/7 nonstop!

    You should always bot as often as possible, for as long as possible. There is never a downside to this method. I'm glad you finally realize this. It makes me sad to see people trying to predict the behavior of the game company. In reality it's not a hard formula to understand. Make the most with your investments. Bans mean nothing to those who know the business well.

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    Quick question.. If im banned can i still access battle.net? Cause i cant even do that

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    Originally Posted by redaoleht View Post
    anyone that lives in eastern united state got banned? or not in california.
    cause i think blizzard targeting around his main building first..
    i live 1h away from irvine so i am an easy target
    It don't matter, any state. I live in SC, eastern side of the country place.

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    Originally Posted by andytn3591 View Post
    Anybody here got banned by using 1 PC per account ?

    I see everybody who got banned is using vmware for bots.
    2 account + IB here working fine. vmware but both on the different ip. only bot like 10-12 hours/day
    friend got banned 3/3 yesterday. 1 IP though. 20/7

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    Still no EU bans right?

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    Seems to becoming more clear what is going on. There are a few things that are obvious:

    1) They are primarily targeting multiple botters
    2) They hate HB/IB with a passion
    3) They are IP banning

    No they haven't got everybody, and no I can't explain all the bans. But I think I have a theory here. Blizzard is able to look-up who is connecting through what IP, how long they have played, etc. They are easily finding people who are connecting through 5+ accounts on the same IP, and playing for an above-average time per day. Then on further investigation they learn that you are running the same stuff, again and again. It doesn't take a wizard to realize you are botting, and then they throw you the ban hammer.

    After that, your IP, e-mail, etc. is put on the watch list. You go out, buy yourself a few more copies and start back up again. Blizzard has you on their watch list, and BAM you get banned within 24 hours. From the reports coming in, it is becoming obvious that Blizzard is much more interested in removing the multi-botter accounts, but isn't afraid to throw the ban hammer at solo users to make their point, if they can find them.

    IB/HB bans are even easier to find, because Warden can catch them, unlike auto-it, which would take a manual investigation on Blizzard's part. Which is one reason why they borrowed the WoW GM's to investigate and find these botters. What people do not realize is that Warden can also catch you by using MF swap, because there is a pattern there. The cursor moves in a straight line from item to item. When a player moves their mouse, it is not in a straight line across the rows.

    For developers: Add randomization to mouse movements, including random timers. This is primarily directed to MF swap developers, try to focus on a randomized wave/noise pattern for the mouse movement.

    For botters: Unless you don't care about the bans, till it down. Fly only 1 bot account, on auto it, for no more than 16 hours a day, in 2 shots (1x 8 hours = sleep, 1x 8 hours = work), and give your account at least 2-3 days a week to rest. Use bots with randomization in mouse movements and timers. You are still going to be at risk, but it will be far less significant than those currently botting 10 accounts 24/7. Also keep in mind the other people in your household that play legitimately, because you put them at great risk. If Blizzard IP bans you, they will be stuck with it as well. If you fear an imminent ban and give them your gold/items, this also places them at risk.

    Everybody will still be on high-risk until we figure out every little trick Blizzard is doing, but it is important we continue to work towards that endeavor by posting good, solid ban information.

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    Originally Posted by bluesin View Post
    IB/HB bans are even easier to find, because Warden can catch them, unlike auto-it, which would take a manual investigation on Blizzard's part. Which is one reason why they borrowed the WoW GM's to investigate and find these botters. What people do not realize is that Warden can also catch you by using MF swap, because there is a pattern there. The cursor moves in a straight line from item to item. When a player moves their mouse, it is not in a straight line across the rows.

    For developers: Add randomization to mouse movements, including random timers. This is primarily directed to MF swap developers, try to focus on a randomized wave/noise pattern for the mouse movement.

    Warden doesn't check mouse movements. Positive.

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    Originally Posted by xLesz View Post
    Warden doesn't check mouse movements. Positive.
    I know it sounds like a stretch but hear me out. People that claim to only use MF swap are being banned. How does Blizzard discover that, unless they are personally watching them. But, why would Blizzard take personal attention to a player playing the game seemingly as expected? They wouldn't it. And they aren't watching your system processes for AHK/AIT to show up, because otherwise we would see a ton more bans of those users, and we haven't.

    Warden does more than people realize, in particular, warden has built in pattern recognition. A routine (Warden) within the game that reads memory to detect infiltration while not useless, would be a sad excuse for a gaming company's attempt to stop people from hacking and botting in the game. Primarily since it can do so much more than that. As a software developer, I can devise a program like that within minutes, it is really not difficult. That's why I feel there is so much more to Warden than people care to admit. And until the do, the ban hammer will continue to come down on all of us.

    The other alternative is that those people who claim to only use MF swap are lying. And there are a few of those people, so the chance that they are ALL lying gets smaller with every report.

    A less likely alternative is that it is not Warden, but a new routine in addition to Warden that we are seeing. A new detection system. Like I said it is a stretch, but if you have another alternative then please, let's all hear it.
    Last edited by bluesin; 07-18-2012 at 07:49 AM.

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    If warden can detect MF swapping, i do wonder why i have not been banned using a fast MF autoit script on daily basis (EU that is, though)
    I think there is a blizz team watching, monitoring some supicious guys with high gold collect, many games created, high online times etc, for maybe a week, then ban.
    Also, they prolly favor to IP ban ppl with many accounts in hope these guys buy more accounts, which result in more $$ for blizz.
    That is what happened, we have ppl who lost 12 accounts, rebuying another 6 or so only to have it banned again a week later.

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    Originally Posted by magda View Post
    If warden can detect MF swapping, i do wonder why i have not been banned using a fast MF autoit script on daily basis (EU that is, though)
    I think there is a blizz team watching, monitoring some supicious guys with high gold collect, many games created, high online times etc, for maybe a week, then ban.
    Also, they prolly favor to IP ban ppl with many accounts in hope these guys buy more accounts, which result in more $$ for blizz.
    That is what happened, we have ppl who lost 12 accounts, rebuying another 6 or so only to have it banned again a week later.
    It is definitely a possibility, but I don't know. So many players make money so easily and legitimately playing the auction house and farming a couple of hours here and there. Some of them like Kripparrian do it publicly, which shows Blizzard it can be done legimately. And he plays for 12 hours a day or more. When I was using MF swap, I would join a game, and destroy from start to finish ACT 1 - whatever my toon was capable of. Why Blizzard would be eyeballing these people makes no sense to me, which is why I side with other conclusions.

    As botters, we are the minority, and to just throw a fictitious percent out there, lets say 75% of Diablo 3 gamers are legit, if you count multiple accounts as 1 person. So Blizzard is burning time watching 75% of the gaming community for MF swap? That sounds...unreasonable lol.

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    Wonder if they are banning based on VMware? Similar to the Linux banwave that went on. Maybe they are detecting the video adapter or network adapter type and banning based on the fact you are running in a VM?

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    Originally Posted by internalcumbustion View Post
    Wonder if they are banning based on VMware? Similar to the Linux banwave that went on. Maybe they are detecting the video adapter or network adapter type and banning based on the fact you are running in a VM?
    I don't think they would ban specifically based on VMware. But with that said, 99% of users have no reason to play Diablo 3 in VMware. So it is possible that they use it as criteria to give you a closer look.
    Last edited by bluesin; 07-18-2012 at 02:34 PM.

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