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    Time Lapse between WotLK and Cata?

    Through further research, we may have discovered a time-jump in the storyline between Wrath and Cataclysm, by way of Vanessa VanCleef. On a side note, it is reasonable to assume that Blizzard would put a small amount of time between Wrath and Cataclysm, as the world has already seen a multitude of large-scale conflicts in the course of ten years.

    Pure logic aside, we have learned that a new quest in Westfall will allow you to watch the death of Edwin VanCleef, as he is killed by Stormwind soldiers and mercenaries. His daughter, Vanessa VanCleef, finds his corpse. She appears to be no older than seven years of age, as she is merely a small child in the cinematic for the quest. However, in Cataclysm, Vanessa VanCleef is supposed to be a young adult, leading the Defias and homeless in Westfall against Stormwind in a new rebellion.

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    Since there has only been 2-5 years of lore between Vanilla and Wrath, it can be safely postulated that we have a time lapse between Wrath and Cataclysm. Since there are around 2-5 years of lore between Vanilla and Wrath (note that Blizzard has never explicitly stated how much time on Azeroth was between Vanilla and the start of Wrath, so our guesses are as good as yours), Vanessa VanCleef would only be around age 9-11, if Wrath takes place 2-5 years after Vanilla.

    In order to be a "young adult", at least a few years must pass between Cataclysm and Wrath.

    For those of you who roleplay out there, you could be faced with roleplaying slightly older versions of your characters.

    The question remains: when does the time lapse begin? How will Blizzard handle a time lapse in lore, if one exists? Will it be explained in the cinematic, or in quests itself?

    Leave your comments on what you think will happen.
    This article was originally published in forum thread: Time Lapse between WotLK and Cataclysm? started by aphel View original post
    Comments 15 Comments
    1. Hewit's Avatar
      Hewit -
      Wow a lot of extensive reasoning on the time lapse for cataclysm GJ.
    1. Opirity's Avatar
      Opirity -
      sweetttttttttt
    1. yubiyoy2's Avatar
      yubiyoy2 -
      I do think its strange. But if blizzard want to realese cataclysm as fast as possible, they dont mind the model of vanessa that mutch. Im sure their focus is on the new instances and cities.
    1. Mitron's Avatar
      Mitron -
      Only quick jump i know is where you as Worgen (thanks to info from Dies Irae) are beating the shit out of some worgens for some quests, then you find yourself 1 year locked up as a worgen
    1. jacko666's Avatar
      jacko666 -
      You can use Anduin for this as well, since he was stated to be 10 in vanilla. Hes got a new model for Cataclysm and he's been sent off to Theramore (I think) so it looks like he's about 16-17.
    1. Skunk5's Avatar
      Skunk5 -
      Oh how I love Warcraft lore, theres so much of it! You can make like 50 movies out of all the lore.
    1. BloodVengeance's Avatar
      BloodVengeance -
      Every Expansion has been 1 year in lore time so far.
    1. keyblade0's Avatar
      keyblade0 -
      I remember seeing somewhere that it was 5 years since Vancleef's death in lore, and I think Vanessa will be getting her own custom model and probably be about the same age as Anduin Wrynn is now, a teenage girl leader of the defias? That would be interesting.
    1. Emilie Autumn's Avatar
      Emilie Autumn -
      What he has a daughter now? >.> now i feel bad for killling him for all those blues...
    1. jazman84's Avatar
      jazman84 -
      Is she the "Shadowy Figure" in the screenies posted on here a few weeks ago?

      Seeing she was shrouded in shadow, could she have something to do with the Infinite Dragonflight? Which could explain the time issue. Just a thought.
    1. slamtrack's Avatar
      slamtrack -
      HUGE WOW FAN but im into Rune of Magic atm its a dumb as hell fun wow like free game that with some refining could of been a wow killer...
    1. lothaer's Avatar
      lothaer -
      maybe Anduin and Vanessa hook up?
    1. darkra's Avatar
      darkra -
      http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/4381/21242859.jpg

      "Five years ago, in the heart of the Deadmines"

      Vanessa can be as young as 17-18 in Cata, which would make her 12-13 in the vision (vanilla time).

      Sure, the model used looks much younger but it's not like there are a lot of them to choose from.
    1. CursedOne's Avatar
      CursedOne -
      Maybe she will be the leader in the Heroic Deadmines, instead of vancleef
      In the trailer for it from blizzcon it says that deadmines will have a heroic version.. For level 85's maybe? So she might be the end boss in the heroic DM
      Just a thought!
    1. Mitron's Avatar
      Mitron -
      There are screenies of Vanessa VanCleef in Dies Irae's Alpha thread.... she is named Hope first, but you as player figure this stuff out... the farmers (Saldean's) who had the horse Old Blancy (wich all should remember from Westfall) found this homeless girl or something, and raised her and named her Hope, read more bout it in his post
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