• Vengeance of the Void Leak Update

    Love it or hate it, the Vengeance of the Void "Leak" has drawn a lot of attention from sites around the "WoWosphere". It is a dry period for WoW news, so the leak has shaped up to be pretty predictably popular (and controversial).

    Let it be known that any and all leaks, past and present, are never absolutely true until confirmed by Blizzard. MMO Champion in specific has claimed that the document is false. I'm not inclined to believe that it's true or false, but people have brought up some good points about the validity of the first page.

    Some have been incredibly vocal, and at times fiery:


    Originally Posted by Boubouille, Administrator of MMO-Champion
    And, on a more hostile sidenote that I can't put in a news post. Seriously, who the **** takes mmowned as a reliable source to the point where news sites will just repost it without any double check? Now I'm sad, or mad, or both. I don't know. >
    We'll be dropping the rest of the 15 page document on July 5th. It's an interesting read, but we'll have to wait for Blizzcon or any confirmed information by Blizzard to know whether or not there's any truth behind it.
    Comments 27 Comments
    1. Frostfire55's Avatar
      Frostfire55 -
      Well, it's true that when Blizz says it's false, it's false. However, there are telling signs of when something is false as well.
    1. Nikentic's Avatar
      Nikentic -
      Why would it be true that when Blizz says it's false, it actually is false? Of course they would like to cover this up, but there is a possibility that this document is legit.
    1. longbeards's Avatar
      longbeards -
      When did Blizzard say the leak was false? Surely you fellows dont think that MMOC is Blizzard?
    1. Unholyshaman's Avatar
      Unholyshaman -
      Nikentic, longbeards, what on earth are you two rambling on about?@Nikentic, no one said it would be true if Blizzard said it was false.@longbeards, no one is confusing MMO-Champion with Blizzard.WoWInsider's internal Blizzars source has confirmed that it is fake. But regardless of whether or not it's fake, it's still a damn good read and a great new post.And hey, if there is enough support for a certain idea mentioned in the 'leak', then perhaps Blizzard might in the end consider implementing it.
    1. longbeards's Avatar
      longbeards -
      Quote Originally Posted by Unholyshaman View Post
      Nikentic, longbeards, what on earth are you two rambling on about?@Nikentic, no one said it would be true if Blizzard said it was false.@longbeards, no one is confusing MMO-Champion with Blizzard.WoWInsider's internal Blizzars source has confirmed that it is fake. But regardless of whether or not it's fake, it's still a damn good read and a great new post.And hey, if there is enough support for a certain idea mentioned in the 'leak', then perhaps Blizzard might in the end consider implementing it.
      Sorry, I didnt know about WoWInsider saying this. That is the first time I even heard of that. It wasnt even mentioned in any of the above posts. Sorry!

      You honestly think Blizzard will change lore thats already been decided upon, and possibly already been worked on, just because of this leak? Thats a bit silly and far fetched. Fans are in for the ride, Blizzard design the rides. They will add mechanics, but I strongly doubt they will change all their plans based on a false leak. Im not saying this is false, it does smell fishy, just curious?
    1. Emilie Autumn's Avatar
      Emilie Autumn -
      @unholyshaman but... Wow insider's "special super smart inside sources" are just what ever has been on mmo-champion for 3 or more hours, and i have to say, we all know it both mmo-c and wow.j will bend over if blizzard tells em, we know this from the alpha leaks they dropped off after keeping up for 2 hours. I am not saying these ARE true either, they're just as liable to be fake. I'm happy to read fake news and speculate/try and promote ideas. I take it all with a grain of salt, but the same goes for anything either of those places says. let's just see what is to come and enjoy what we can while we can, nothing wrong with "fan fiction" after all :P

      EDIT:
      @longbeards errr... aside for the naga thing (which would be retcon) there is no "changing lore" in what has been listed so far.... it all fits in pretty well atm actually
    1. Frostfire55's Avatar
      Frostfire55 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Emilie Autumn View Post
      @unholyshaman but... Wow insider's "special super smart inside sources" are just what ever has been on mmo-champion for 3 or more hours,
      Actually, WoWinsider does have a former Blizzard employee that works for them and you can also visit the previous news thread as to why the document is fake.
    1. ZOMG's Avatar
      ZOMG -
      This is either a REALLY elaborate and well worded hoax, or the real thing.
    1. Emilie Autumn's Avatar
      Emilie Autumn -
      Quote Originally Posted by Frostfire55 View Post
      Actually, WoWinsider does have a former Blizzard employee that works for them and you can also visit the previous news thread as to why the document is fake.
      ... please michael saco is hardly a secret source, considering adam holisky wrote the article,"highly vetted sources" come on really? what highly vetted source is this? these guys have never posted anything original, the only thing wow-insider is worth it for is to read some of the class articles, SOME of them. Wowinsider is nothing but an arrogant fanboy service. MMO-c has more credibility, but even then... nobody has proof one way or the other, these are either fake or true, and until -blizzard- says either way, nobody has any proof either way. And activision wont turn down free publicity from a hoax if this is the case, nor will they up right say it's true.
    1. shakduhn's Avatar
      shakduhn -
      Quote Originally Posted by ; View Post
      @emilie autumn errr... aside for the naga thing (which would be retcon) there is no "changing lore" in what has been listed so far.... it all fits in pretty well atm actually
      Err not really, that's not the only lore screw up, because we were told that K'aresh was consumed by the Void, and all the Ethereals who had escaped were already on Azeroth/Outland.so there you have it, I still say this is fake. People are just hungry for any scoop of news and thus will take anything trown their way.
    1. Emilie Autumn's Avatar
      Emilie Autumn -
      Quote Originally Posted by shakduhn View Post
      Err not really, that's not the only lore screw up, because we were told that K'aresh was consumed by the Void, and all the Ethereals who had escaped were already on Azeroth/Outland.so there you have it, I still say this is fake. People are just hungry for any scoop of news and thus will take anything trown their way.
      ...........The current state of K'aresh is unknown. all we know is it was CONTROLLED by the void lord dimensius(whom we killed in netherstorm, which doesn't mean the planet isn't inhabited by other portions of the void), it fits to lore to help ethereals take it back if our main enemy where the void... hit me with another "lore breaker" thanks..

      i really do have to say, how many people though cataclysm was fake? Deathwing was unlikely as hell, I'd rather blizz take a non-linear approach to who comes next than follow a chain
    1. ZOMG's Avatar
      ZOMG -
      I'm going out on a limb, and publicly stating I actually think this is legit. It's too well worded and formatted to be a hoax. If it IS a hoax, props to you for putting in the time and effort on this one.
    1. xf11's Avatar
      xf11 -
      Quote Originally Posted by ZOMG View Post
      I'm going out on a limb, and publicly stating I actually think this is legit. It's too well worded and formatted to be a hoax. If it IS a hoax, props to you for putting in the time and effort on this one.
      besides the starting paragraph, the rest of the content sounds very possible as well, I did take it as real the first time I looked at it
    1. Jeremiah's Avatar
      Jeremiah -
      The matter of fact is that Boub can't even totally disprove it. WoW Insider's "source" isn't even 100% on it. Until an official announcement from Blizz, we can't take it as fake -or- true.
    1. Emilie Autumn's Avatar
      Emilie Autumn -
      Quote Originally Posted by aphel View Post
      The matter of fact is that Boub can't even totally disprove it. WoW Insider's "source" isn't even 100% on it. Until an official announcement from Blizz, we can't take it as fake -or- true.
      EXACTALY. we all know mmo-champ has their fair share of "leaks" that go wrong, cata release date anybody?
    1. (I)Beechu's Avatar
      (I)Beechu -
      Quote Originally Posted by Emilie Autumn View Post
      EXACTALY. we all know mmo-champ has their fair share of "leaks" that go wrong, cata release date anybody?
      I'm pretty sure leaking the whole cataclysm expansion before it was announced at blizzcon means Boubouille from MMOC has a reliable source inside blizzard. Either that or he is extremely good at guessing.
    1. Emilie Autumn's Avatar
      Emilie Autumn -
      Quote Originally Posted by (I)Beechu View Post
      I'm pretty sure leaking the whole cataclysm expansion before it was announced at blizzcon means Boubouille from MMOC has a reliable source inside blizzard. Either that or he is extremely good at guessing.
      MMowned and Nihlium had it out way before mmo-c, mmo-c also got the alpha leaks from us.
    1. amd's Avatar
      amd -
      Quote Originally Posted by Emilie Autumn View Post
      MMowned and Nihlium had it out way before mmo-c, mmo-c also got the alpha leaks from us.
      Uh no, MMOC's initial Cata leak was in no way from MMOwned. Some additional leaks did indeed come from MMOwned but were only reposted by nihilum, not MMOC. MMOwned did however repost MMOC content. Namely the initial deathwing screenshot.Also it's July 5th, are you done writing the other pages yet, aphel?P.S I remember when MMOwned was at least a bit original in content. WotLK alpha any1?
    1. Leonim's Avatar
      Leonim -
      "We'll be dropping the rest of the 15 page TROLL document on July 5th."This is faker than a girl's orgasm
    1. xf11's Avatar
      xf11 -
      all eyes on you aphel
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