A tale of hypocrisy from a gold farmer

[Nartan]

Your sitting at 350k+, relax T_T, you had fun, you gained money, save it... Give it a week or two,
start money making on another server? That guy will dissapear in a week or two and just gogo again ?

ontopic nao: no dont report other botters, how wud u feel to have ur char banned that u botted to 80 when you know other potential botters have seen it and did not report it due to the botting morale?

[The Toxic Deer]

Dont report him. hes just thinking out side of the box

[Mellexx]

I would've done the same thing as you, I have no problem with farming bots at all it gives us a chance to take a break from the game and focus on more important things. But honestly the auction house bot is a bit too much, I dealt with it all the time when I used to play and it got frustrating trying to make gold and ending up getting undercut to the point where I had to pull all my auctions.

[dontblink438]

I would have reported him. For some reason there is just something different between auction house bots and farming bots.

Its probably because I have never used more then a simple addon to assist me in my auction process. I probably spend more time setting up, canceling, and re-posting auctions then anything else.

I guess the point is I would ban him because I spend a lot of time working with my auctions but this guy ruins it all day. Hmm, I think I might be starting to understand why other players hate leveling bots so much.

[lollert]

Depending on the bots imo.
If the bot is harmless, farming mindlessly, it doesn't really affect other players very much.
Going through the same thing as you do at my own server, where my auctions gets undercut almost instantly after I've posted my items. I enjoy banking, and playing the auctionhouse, but when those undercutting bots are active, it ruins another aspect of the game. I've done the same thing as you did, and reported the fella. Used my share of bots through the years, but never BG bots, and never AH bots. I'm not interested in ruining the game for others.

[DarkLinux]

I think your crazy to even use the AH. I never used the AH, only for selling some items. But whats do I know. I have only made over 5 million gold in the past years. In the end I lost all 6 of my account. I dont bot anymore, no money in it anymore.

[CryptoCombat]

I report people that use 2000% speedhacks and farm underground with their bots. that's much more frustrating, imho.

[KuRIoS]

I would like to point you towards http://www.mmowned.com/forums/blogs/...ld-farmer.html where there are much more comments

[Confucius]

I report people that use 2000% speedhacks and farm underground with their bots. that's much more frustrating, imho.

you report people like me?

[Killalots]

Had a response from a GM with regards to exactly the same player as KuRIoS.

"We will monitor this players behaviour closely"

There's the result. Hopefully he won't be around for long KuR.

[idusy]

but when those undercutting bots are active, it ruins another aspect of the game. I've done the same thing as you did, and reported the fella. Used my share of bots through the years, but never BG bots, and never AH bots. I'm not interested in ruining the game for others.

How is it any different? His bot simply targets a different area of the profit game than yours does. Many would agree that using bots to mass farm materials and selling them is just as bad as using one to directly out-price auctions. He "ruins" it for you, but by the same standard, you're ruining it for players that spend hours actually farming them by hand. You're no better than he is.

My stance on bots: They're fun for a while, then they lose their novelty. When doing virtually no work to make bank, it takes away the value of that gold in my opinion. Anything you buy with that gold just feels cheaper, and then the game just feels cheaper all together. It's good for a little "Haha, I've found a way to make more gold than you," and loses it's charm after that, imo. Same as using them to level characters. You put nothing into it, what satisfaction do you actually feel when you hit 80?

That being said, I don't report botters. You chose to play the game that way, I chose to play it my way. A botter reporting a botter is doing it simply out of selfishness, the way I see it.

[Ianman25]

A botter reporting a botter is doing it simply out of selfishness, the way I see it.

I agree very much with above statement...

However go ahead and ban all the AH Bots cause its not a harmless bot it screws tons of people over and not only other botters, I dont bot however ah bots screw me over every day when I try and sell what I go out of my way to farm by hand. So I agree with quoted statement above, however down with AH Bots...

[Mangatang]

Step 1. Exploit game mechanics to further your own success and hinder the progress of other legitimate gamers.
Step 2. Get beat at your own game, and learn how it feels to get ****ed over by someone who's playing the game illegitimately.
Step 3. Report him for doing the exact same thing that you yourself have done shamelessly, complain on the internet forum you're an administrator for, and then try to act as if what he did was somehow worse than what you did.
Brilliant. I know that these guys are just dying to kiss your ass some more, so I'll be on my way. but you make me sick.

[idusy]

Dont report him. hes just thinking out side of the box

This is pure gold.

[Dragonfly42]

Best thing to do is not to report anyone. So even if you get reported by another botter don't reported them.

[elx92c]

I would have sent him a message asking him to compromise, or be reported - obviously not releasing the information that *I* myself was a botter, but making it known that I knew he was one.

[GotLlednar]

personally, thinking outside the box here, if this botter was auto undercuttin you could have tried breaking the market, meaning under cut him and down the price till its sooo cheap you can buy him out, then the market is yours, like for ever

beyond that, AH botting is a terrible idea and id report him in a heartbeat, if i ever set up an AH bot it would set a price and not take no for an answer
keep the price where i want it and keeep the market afloat, and after a while if i dont get a sale we'll see about some price changin

[idusy]

personally, thinking outside the box here, if this botter was auto undercuttin you could have tried breaking the market, meaning under cut him and down the price till its sooo cheap you can buy him out, then the market is yours, like for ever

Was waiting for someone to say this.