Disenchants rolled items w/o enchanter

[Warper]

Hi there,

I've been raiding with friend on the new icecrown citadel in 10 man's raid today.
We were ashamed to not have an enchanter with us, and as you may now, the disenchant fonction in the roll window were disabled.


Lucky me, i got a friend who weren't in raid & Afk in Dalaran. I asked him to group with us (as the eleventh player) to try & see if disenchants could work, based on this player.... And it did !

So, to be brief :

-Group with an enchanter (even if your raid is full)
-Let him stay wherever he wants, he doesn't have to fight or even play
-Loot items in dungeon/raid and pop the roll windows
-See the disenchant button active
-?????
-Enjoy


As it may be of pretty low use, it's indeed the best way to save some prismatic shard.

On a second way, i tried the same thing after my raid when i were farming ZG mounts. I was alone (prot pally FTW) inside ZG & grouped with him in Dalaran

Each loot were offering me disenchant fonction.


This post isn't useless without pics, as of perfectly clear, but if you are pretty breasted & nice, i shall consent on uploading one


My first participation, flame option is ON if needed (Sigh ! )

[Doktre]

Have you discerned whether it's necessary to have the enchanter in raid prior to engaging the boss or just prior to looting the boss?

[wowcool]

This would work, and is excellent. Thank you for the contribution. And as the game mechanics work, yes they would have to be in the raid before the loot drops.

[Warper]

I've actually only tested by grouping him BEFORE boss pulls. (And i'm actually farming with my pal some pets outside dungeons, setting the loot type on "Unusual items" & "greed or need" and it works too



I see your point, to be able to disenchants an item by grouping an enchanter after the kill/before the loot. Nice idea, i'll give it a shot & keep u informed.

[Warper]

Just tried with a random loot, and like wowcool said, game mechanism needs that the enchanter was online when the "mob" died.

I can't really try if grouping this enchanter during the fight could be okay (i doubt it)

[Jadd]

Working as intended.

[midnightzak]

Working as intended.

You honestly believe blizz wanted an extra person in your raid, not in the actual instance with you to be able to donate their disenchant ability?

Sorry, but I think you are 100% wrong. Pre 3.3 your raid would be stuck with those Epic items and would just have to vendor them, as they could not be traded to any enchanter that wasn't along for your raid.

Nice find OP!

[Devitt]

You honestly believe blizz wanted an extra person in your raid, not in the actual instance with you to be able to donate their disenchant ability?

Sorry, but I think you are 100% wrong. Pre 3.3 your raid would be stuck with those Epic items and would just have to vendor them, as they could not be traded to any enchanter that wasn't along for your raid.

Nice find OP!

This.

Nice find, have a cookie!

Edit: I've ran out of cookies! Once I get some more, you'll be the first to get!

[Dvveh]

This is really nice!

Repz for you

[Warper]

Was expecting some "Working as intended" ^^

As a matter of fact :

-Blizzard sure didn't expect to have 11 (Or 26 in R25mode) players grouped together & allowing Disenchant because of some player outside the instance.
-Blizzard didn't expect as well to allow user to farm wherever they are and being able to disenchant, just by being grouped with them, even if they aren't allowed to be at the same place as you


I will try to see if enchanter's requirements are needed too...
Example : Does "Having a low lvl 1 / Enchant lvl 1/75 grouped with us" allow disenchant's rolls on Items from recents dungeons (Ilvl 200+)

[funkyjunky]

Working as intended.

This cant be intended. Blizzard implemented this function to make DE rolls/distribution easier. Not to have an enchanter DE BOP loot that he isnt eligible to loot.

Think about normal loot distribution works and how disenchanting is handled. If you normally cant trade the bop loot within 2 hour rule to the person, then having him DE while not even being near you is an exploit.

[akut]

Was expecting some "Working as intended" ^^

As a matter of fact :

-Blizzard sure didn't expect to have 11 (Or 26 in R25mode) players grouped together & allowing Disenchant because of some player outside the instance.
-Blizzard didn't expect as well to allow user to farm wherever they are and being able to disenchant, just by being grouped with them, even if they aren't allowed to be at the same place as you


I will try to see if enchanter's requirements are needed too...
Example : Does "Having a low lvl 1 / Enchant lvl 1/75 grouped with us" allow disenchant's rolls on Items from recents dungeons (Ilvl 200+)

Since the first 3.3 PTR build u can DE in instances if an enchanter is in the group. even if he is AFK in dal.

working as intented.

[Shobek]

You failed to explain one thing, are you just able to disenchant the items and they go to that enchanter or are you able to disenchant? cause if its just disenchanting than it's working as intended

[Bangable]

+rape from me, nice find.

[Warper]

Shobek, it's evident that it doesn't, but still, is not intended. To be able to DE items w/o learning it, it's huge for many ppl.

btw, a friend of mine just confirmed that a lvl 1 / DE lvl 1/75 Does permit to Disenchants 80's item (Not intended too) by this method. Somebody could confirm ? I don't have spare chars to try it.