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    Great Items that will last you forever

    Thank you for your feedback of Excellence so far! I proudly present MMOwned with my baby thread, updated twice!:

    ITEMS THAT WILL LAST YOU FOREVER

    Okay, I didn't see anything like this here but this has been an interesting topic in my guild, and that topic is this:

    Staying Power

    That is, how long is an item going to last you? Not twink items or items that always sell well, but The idea being, if you go from 1- max level, and then to raiding, how long is an item going to last you before it ends up in some vendors hands or being sharded?

    More importantly...

    Will it last you through the upcoming expansion??!1one!

    Here's some examples to show why this is an important idea, and to clarify on my wordiness :

    These are items that will last you forever and/or will always be useful**
    (unless they are replaced by something that is better in every way):

    Azure Silk Belt - Increases swimming speed by 15 %
    Azure Silk Belt - Items - World of Warcraft
    Why its always useful: It increases swim speed by a static percentage, and is useable by even max leveled dudes

    Barov Peasant caller - calls forth three pets
    Barov Peasant Caller - Items - World of Warcraft
    Why its always useful: It has a hefty 10 min cooldown, and the guys are only level 60, but it can be easily used to confuse opponents in PvP with 3 extra mobs

    To clarify, this means that after you get these items youll be wanting them around either for sheer fun value and mild usefulness (peasant caller) or actual utility and usefulness and being very good (belt).

    Since you probably don't want me to list every single item in WoW history and explain wether or not it works or doesnt work or why its bad or not bad, I'll give you some guidlines to follow for finding Items that last forever and even through expansions :


    1. Items with percentage values - I'll try to find more low level or easier-to-come-by stuff for this section, as the three posted here (minus the belt, see above) are all deep into pre BC 40 man raids. WTB suggestions.

    These items affect all targets the same. Rather than increasing a certain value or haveing a certain effect, these items have a great effect at any level. Examples:

    THUNDARFURY!! RAWR! (I've seen Main tanks wield this post BC... Good ones.)
    Why: Slowing down mobs attacks (by a very large ratio) means less damage, means better tanking, you are getting hit 3 times in a span of time when you would have been hit by 4. Put mongoose (more lightning imo) or some awesome enchant on it and it competes with the best BC tank weps
    Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker - Items - World of Warcraft

    The Earthshatterer set values
    The Earthshatterer - Item Sets - World of Warcraft
    Why its useful: if you fully enchant 2 of the set, it turns out to be decent healing gear for a shaman (about at karazhan or L70 dungeons), with a neat percentage effect on certain totems.

    Scarab Brooch
    Scarab Brooch - Items - World of Warcraft
    Why: Item still is very good after the expansion, the effect is still the same.
    Its a little hefty to take up a whole trinket slot with no actual stats, but the sheild it gives also applies to spot healing raid members during AoE and such, especially for shamans with chain heal, and not just on the main tank



    2. Items with alot of MP5: Why? Mana per 5 second effects rock, especially on rings which can be enchanted into craziness, and trinkets which have cool effects. Ask a healer, running out of mana is to be avoided.
    Examples:

    Rejuvenating Gem - static effect means you dont have to think about using it
    Rejuvenating Gem - Items - World of Warcraft

    Heavenly inspiration - this is alot of mp5
    Heavenly Inspiration - Items - World of Warcraft


    3. Lots of Hit Rating

    Self explaniatory, if it has alot of hit rating, its to be kept, especially on a ring or trinket. Don’t sacrifice weapons for hit rating though. Hit rating ratios have not changed significantly since the expansion, from 60 to 70. I'll try to find proof of that, but disproof is also welcome.

    Example: Drake Fang Talisman – has some amazing combat bonuses for a L60 item
    Drake Fang Talisman - Items - World of Warcraft

    Romulo’s Poison Vial – if you notice, hit rating ratios haven’t changed much from original to BC, so I assume it wont change much from BC to WoTLK, and this is a MASSIVE amount of hit rating
    Romulo's Poison Vial - Items - World of Warcraft


    4. Pets - theyre humerous and stuff, and theyre helpful

    Tiny voodoo mask
    Tiny Voodoo Mask - Items - World of Warcraft

    Tentacle of cthun
    Vanquished Tentacle of C'Thun - Items - World of Warcraft

    Why? Pets are many things, they are more damage sources (are the gnomes affected by wrath-of-air-totem?). They are a morale boost for a raiding group, and are sometimes funny. Always fun to look at, and a distraction in pvp.


    5 and 6. Things with ballin’ static and use effects
    definition: items you can equip, and they do something cool, and you don't need to think about it. Usually trinkets, rings, and weapons, sometimes obscure gear like weapons and shields even.
    Many of the effects on this gear can be obtained with the proffession Engineering.

    Examples:
    Hydrocane (thanks Kaniran!) - you breath underwater. Thats good if you want to farm something underwater, like say, primal waters in skettis or terrokar in general, and is even very good for lower questing. Alternative if you want to wield your normal weapon: Deepdive Helmet - Items - World of Warcraft
    Hydrocane - Items - World of Warcraft

    EASY TO GET AND VERY GOOD : Bounty of the Harvest - Conjures 4 foodz, 12 hour cooldown. Very good for hunters, get yourselves free food that is always at your pet's level
    Bounty of the Harvest - Items - World of Warcraft


    Ornate spyglass – allows you to look far into the distance. Easily made, and has a neat effect, and many uses. Look for patrolling mobs, look to see if there are elites in your path. Also, the level 70 engineer only epic goggles (EG. Deathblow X11 Goggles - Items - World of Warcraft) do this.
    Ornate Spyglass - Items - World of Warcraft

    Cursed Vision of Sargeras – WARNING! VERY HARD TO GET! – Allows any class that can wear leather to track demons, plus epic attack bonuses and such. Cursed Vision of Sargeras - Items - World of Warcraft

    Skyguard Slowfall cloaks - some stats, and slows your fall speed, 30 min cooldown. Don't know if theyre cooldown shared or if you can have 2 or what. Slowing fall speed rocks, by the way. I swear by it while running around karazhan (it has alot of large cliffs)!
    Skyguard's Drape - Items - World of Warcraft


    7. Things with eternal LoL value or things that can impress your friends.

    Time lost figurine drops from Terokk in Terokkar forest, but why do that when you can skip the stupid quest line and get :
    A Shabby Disguise - Quests - World of Warcraft (a shabby arrakoa disguise). Doesn’t even have the stupid cooldown either.
    Time-Lost Figurine - Items - World of Warcraft

    Orb of Deception – transforms you into the other faction. Cool for pvp and scaring your friends. I always wanted a Draenei rogue. I liked the hero "Akama" in WCIII: Frozen Throne, cuz he basically tore through everything and stealthed around, and he was a draenei. Hard to get though.
    wowhead.com/?item=1973

    ALRIGHT thats all I can think of now. Post suggestions/flames on how to make this post more informative and better! All the best!

    I must try to find a way to make this post more informative without being a wall of text for next time!
    Last edited by Skizzilini; 12-13-2007 at 12:15 AM. Reason: added more infoz, again!

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    Good post, with useful information.
    But its lacking in size, add more info (items) and ill rep u.


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    Thottbot World of Warcraft: Shark Bait

    Pickpocketed this off of a naga, I still have it in my bank for pure lol'ability.

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    Skizzilini's Avatar Member
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    Ah yes, I shall update it tommorow, I completely forgot a section hehe!

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    Nice post! Would be nice to see more

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    This may have been patched, not sure, but the Chained Essence of Eranikus AoE used to break flag caps. My rogue buddy had no AoEs so he would sprint into the middle of a group, use the CEoE and vanish. The AoE stays around for something like 30 seconds, which is a huge pain in the ass in AV.

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    very useful thanks!

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    Informative post,

    +rep for future info.

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    You talk about the tiny voodoo mask, but you linked the voodoo shaker.

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    This is by far one of the most innovative guides ever posted. +rep!

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    Shark Bate apparantly sells for 227 Gold 73 Silver?!
    Richard rules!

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    Toys...
    Cannonball Runner
    Binds when picked up
    Trinket
    Requires Level 56
    Use: Summons a cannon that will fire at enemies in front of it that are attacking you. (5 Min Cooldown)


    wowhead.com/?item=13382


    Chained Essence of Eranikus
    Binds when picked up
    Trinket
    Use: Poisons all enemies in an 8 yard radius around the caster. Victims of the poison suffer 50 Nature damage every 5 sec for 45 sec. (15 Min Cooldown)


    wowhead.com/?item=10455


    Commander's Badge
    Binds when picked up
    Unique-Equipped
    Trinket
    +45 Stamina
    Requires Netherwing - Revered
    Use: Calls forth a Netherwing Ally to fight at your side. (10 Min Cooldown)


    wowhead.com/?item=32864


    Orb of Deception
    Binds when equipped
    Trinket
    Requires Level 54
    Use: Transforms caster to look like a member of the opposing faction. (30 Min Cooldown)


    wowhead.com/?item=1973


    Piccolo of the Flaming Fire
    Binds when picked up
    Trinket
    Requires Level 53
    Use: Causes nearby players to dance. (1 Min Cooldown)


    wowhead.com/?item=13379


    Ramstein's Lightning Bolts
    Binds when picked up
    Unique-Equipped
    Trinket
    Requires Level 55
    Use: Harness the power of lightning to strike down all enemies around you for 200 Nature damage. (5 Min Cooldown)


    wowhead.com/?item=13515


    Six Demon Bag
    Binds when equipped
    Unique-Equipped
    Trinket
    Requires Level 46
    Use: Blasts enemies in front of you with the power of wind, fire, all that kind of thing! (3 Min Cooldown)


    wowhead.com/?item=7734

    ...And a ton from Jewelcraft & Engineering.

    Sorry no direct links, not enough rep.
    Last edited by gnomegnome; 12-10-2007 at 05:01 PM.

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    Okay I have updated it with one or two additional sections and more items! Thank you all for your suggestions! If someone could confirm that "Eranikus" item as working, I will definately put it in the post. This is a work in progress now, I am very glad to have helped some people! :wave:

    Also, I am LF someone who makes those neat signature-pictures I have seen around this site! Those are nifty!

    And please, if you see something cool, I'd love to know about it. Little trivia: this discussion all started, by the way, when I saw a level 70 in full Merciless Gladiator's Raiment (pre season 3) wearing this: Hand of Justice - Items - World of Warcraft. It has since been nerfed so that it nearly never activates/procs at level 60-70, but it was really cool at the time. As such I am dedicated to finding items like that which have not been nerfed!

    Feel free to put more suggestions and responses! Especially confirming that Eranikus trinket! I just might be soloing Sunken Temple tonight!
    Last edited by Skizzilini; 12-10-2007 at 06:49 PM.

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    How about the Parachute Cloak?

    Slows down fall speed for 10 seconds, which is good for a hell of a lot of things. Plus if I recall, the cooldown on this was reduced from 3/5 minutes, to 30 seconds in the latest patch.

    Great for exploration amongst other things. I know alot of 70 engineers carry one.
    Alcoholism is a disease but it's the only the disease you can get yelled at for having. Damnit Otto you're an alcoholic. Damnit Otto you have lupus. One of these doesn't sound right.

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