Card of Omens - Spreadsheet ( 3620 cards flipped )

[markons]

OK, so I'm not sure if this should be in guides but I will post it here anyway as a guide what not to do if you are not willing to gamble

As the title says I opened 3620 Card of Omens so we can say that this number can be used as a representative number. To create those 3620 cards I used Primal Spirit bought from Herb Vendor ( a vendor that can spawn in Garrioson for people that dont know where to look ) and Cerulean Pigment that can be obtained by milling herbs, to create War Paints a regent needed to create Card of Omens. You will create War paints using profession spell called The spirit of war that you can learn if you follow the link provided. You will need 1x Primal Spirit and 4x Cerulan Pigment to create 2x War Paints.
NOTE: I suggest learning mass milling if you want to create insane amounts of War Paints since it is 4x faster.

This method ( buying Primal Spirit from vendor is a bit expensive but you can create unlimited numbers of War Paints provided that you have unlimited amount/supply of herbs since for each Primal Spirit bought from vendor you need 5 herbs of one type.

Now to calculate average price for 5 War paints you will need to create 10 Card of Omens
On my realm I was paying 160g for a stack of 200 herbs ( Each Draenor herb, Now in order to create 5 war paints you need 2.5 Primal Spirits ( thats 12.5 herbs or some 10g) + 10 Cerulean Pigments or 25 herbs considering you need 5 herbs at least to mill in order to get 2x Cerulean Pigment and thats some 20g. In total you will need 30g to create 10 Card of Omens + some small amount for Light Parchment. So one Card of Omens will cost you about 3g

Note: You can get 2-3 Cerulean pigments from 5 herbs ( 1 milling ) but I used even number to be able to calculate better and also you cant use 2,5 Primals you need at least 3 but I used 2.5 as a reference.

Now lets see the numbers

Out of 3620 cards i got following

643 Cards worth 1 copper or 17.7% -----> not gonna boder calculating
665 Cards worth 10 silver or 18.4% -----> 66.5g
1261 Cards worth 50 silver or 35% -----> 630.5g
715 Cards worth 1 gold or 19.7% -----> 715g
186 Cards worth 5 gold or 5.1% -----> 930g
58 Cards worth 10 gold or 1.6% -----> 580g
48 Cards worth 20 gold or 1.3% -----> 960g
24 Cards worth 50 gold or 0.6% -----> 1200g
18 Cards worth 100 gold or 0.4% -----> 1800g
0 Cards worth 1000 gold or 0% well that obvious -----> 0g
1 Card worth 3000 gold or 0.027% -----> 3000g
1 Card worth 6000 gold or 0.027% -----> 6000g
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Total: 3620 cards - 99,854% ( I was rounding up to the closest number so thats the reason why its not full 100% )
Gold earned from vendoring - 15882gold

Now to calculate expenditures. To create 3620 Card of Omens i needed 1810 War Paints, using calculation that for 2 war paints i need 15 herbs I get average price for 1x War Paints 6g
So 1810 x 6g = 10860g

So total profit was: 15882 - 10860 = 5022g or about 1.4g per card and total time spend was about 90min ( just creating and flipping cards, it will take probably 1 hour mre crating inks an paints + keep in mind that you still need to buy herbs and exchange it for primals )


Now some screenshots

1. When all started




2. Some time into process



3. After i got my 1st expensive card



4 Now the 6000g card



5. After I created all the cards



I know that time doesnt match with total number that has passed but i stopped it few times while trying to arrange stuff to find the place where to put cards but I also need to mention that I lost like 15min while waiting for friend outside to bring me something.


Most important thing now

As you see I did managed to earn some gold but it is luck depended since the chance for Epic card is lower than 0.03% So if you dont get any or got 1000g cards instead of 6000g or 3000g cards you will lose some gold for sure. I did this because I was bored but on some realms it is much better to make weapon/trinket upgrades and sell those for 500-1000g profit depending on server.


So there you go. I'm sorry if this is the wrong place to create topic so if mods wnat they can delete it or move to somewhere else. I also looked for anything similar but I wasnt able to find it, if its a repost im so sorry

[olisaurus95]

it's so painful that they don't stack to 200

[SKeptical]

it's so painful that they don't stack to 200

Actually , flipping the cards is the real pain .


Tried it with around 1500 cards , was a pain and time consuming .

Profit is like really low comparable to what you're able to use the Primal Spirit for . Unless you're really really lucky .

I used around 1500 cards and only had the 1000 card only .

Do it in case you want to try something new .

[IGG]

Interesting guide, thanks!

[furlongendo]

cool.Thanks

[markons]

Today I made another batch of but this time I used all my alts daily CDs for few days ( I also used War Paints that I had left ), since that is probably the best way to do it simply because its so much cheaper that its just stupid not to do it.
You can also you profession hut but you don't have to, using hut its still cheaper than using Primal Spirits to make War paints but more expensive than using daily CD.

Now little bit om math before I give you my final result. If we use prices as mentioned in the 1st post we get this:

1. Using daily CD wil give you 20 war paints and it will only cost you 10 Cerulean Pigments, as I mentioned for 10 Cerulean Pigments you dont need more than 25 herbs so using the price of 0.8g for 1 herb you get that those 10 Cerulean Pigments wont cost you more than 20g, or that each War Paint this way cost you 1g to make or 6x less than using using Primals ( buying them from herb vendor ).

2. If you decide to use profession hut as well ( for that you dont need to have Inscription ) you will need 14 Cerulean Pigments on a daily basis which will grant you 14 war paints. In other words each Cerulean pigment will grant you 1 war paint and it will cost you 2g ( 2.5 herbs for one with the price of 0.8g = 2g ). Thats still 3x cheaper than buying and using Primals but 2x more than using daily CD

So lets see the cost of one card using:
1. From 20 war paints you would be able to create 40 cards and that will put a price for 1 card on 0.5g!!!
2. You will be able to create only 20 cards since you will need 5 war paints for 10 cards but I will calculate that you can create 30 card ( for that you will need 15 war paints ) so that will cost you 30g or 1g per card

If you plan to use both methods average price for 1 card you be - 70 cards total, gold spent 50g = 0.71g which is pretty cheap

I will open 159stacks of 20card or some 3180 cards with the cost price of about 2260g ( For this I used average price for 1 card if i use both methods ).

Now lets see the numbers

Out of 3180 cards i got following

583 Cards worth 1 copper or 18.3%
543 Cards worth 10 silver or 17.07% worth 54.3 gold
1004 Cards worth 50 silver or 31.57% worth 502 gold
720 Cards worth 1 gold or 22.64% worth 720 gold
178 Cards worth 5 gold or 5.5% worth 890 gold
62 Cards worth 10 gold or 2% worth 620 gold
41 Cards worth 20 gold or 1.3% worth 820 gold
31 Cards worth 50 gold or 0.97% worth 1550 gold
15 Cards worth 100 gold or 0.47% worth 1500 gold
2 Cards worth 1000 gold or 0.062% worth 2000 gold
1 Card worth 3000 gold or 0.031% worth 3000 gold
0 Card worth 6000 gold or 0%
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Cards worth total of 11656 gold

Lets sum op: Total cards = 3180; cost about 2260 gold
Sp the profit is 11656 - 2260 = 9296 gold or close to 3g per card, and that is not that bad at all.

Now you may ask how I got that many War Paints, well its simple, I have 11 inscribers with profession + profession house and thats 374 War paints each day or close to 750 card each day.
In monthly terms I can make 22500 cards and if you use profit margin of 3g thats close to 70k gold just from vendoring. Now i know I have a lot of inscribers so yeah, that means a lot but you can also make probably 30-40% more if you use Primals that you get from missions

I you are interested I can wait for 5 or 10 days and see how much can I earn/lose that time..

NOTE: This is based on luck like 1st post but if you are using this method ( Hut + daily profession CD ) even if you dont get any epic card you would still earn gold.

Just on a side note, if you wanna know how much gold is that per hour. Lets see, it takes me about 15min to do Daily Cds + set new orders on those 11 characters, thats about 7.5 hours monthly. It took me about an 1.5 hours to create and open all cards ( about 3200 ) so for 23000 cards you will need 10.5 hours or monthly time spent is about 18 hours ( or 20 if you count time you need to buy some herbs + mill them and get regents ). So 20 hours each month for a profit of about 70k is about 3500g per hour.

[markons]

This time I will open about 7100 card, out of those cards 2280 would be made using Primal Spirtis to create war paints ( all spirits were farmed or they are from missions ) and the rest would be created from War Paints that I got from daily CDs + profession huts.
So to calculate cost:
1. 2280 cards from Primal Spirit - thats 570 Spirits to create War paint i needed 4 cerulean pigments or 10 herbs that cost me 8g. So each Primal Spirit gets me 2 War paints. In other words each card cost me 2g. So total gold for this is 4560g
2. 4820 cards from War paints got from daily CDs is about is about 3400g ( you can see price on previous posts )

So total 7960g or about 1.12g per card.

I need to mention that the total number of cards was calculated by rounding up and since im writing this while making cards I will have the correct numbers when all is completed, but the total number shouldn't be more then a 100 cards difference.


So after 2 hours or more of opening cards I got the following:

Total cards opened 7020 and out of that i got:

1244 Cards worth 1 copper or 17.7%
1217 Cards worth 10 silver or 17.33% worth 121.7g
2395 Cards worth 50 silver or 34.11% worth 1197g
1509 Cards worth 1 gold or 21.5% worth 1509g
358 Cards worth 5 gold or 5.1% worth 1790g
122 Cards worth 10 gold or 1.73% worth 1220g
91 Cards worth 20 gold or 1.29% worth 1820g
54 Cards worth 50 gold or 0.77% worth 2700g
26 Cards worth 100 gold or 0.37% worth 2600g
2 Cards worth 1000 gold or 0.0284% worth 2000g
1 Card worth 3000 gold or 0.0142% worth 3000g
1 Card worth 6000 gold or 0.0142% worth 6000g

TOTAL NUMBER: 7020 cards
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Cards worth total of 23958g

So profit this time was 23958 - 7960 = about 16k gold or 2.28g per card

Now the screenshots

1. Now this is the start, I left room in bags so I could open cards but you can see that there are a lot of cards there


2. Just to show that there are alot of cards waiting in mail box



3. The new "batch" after I sold the ones already opened so I could make room


4. And after everything is sold. You can see that Accountant is showing practically the same profit ( difference is 10g )

[brandzr]

Nice thread markons. I've been doing this for a while now, each time opening 5000 to 10000 cards. Last night i opened 5000 cards with profit of 21k when i cut the expenses of the herbs. It's all about luck but for some reason I always end up with a nice juicy profit. I had 3x6000 cards last night and multiple 3000 ones. I will post screens next time.

[markons]

Ok, another batch created and flipped - total 7640 card and out of those 3100 were created with Primal spirits. So total gold invested was 3100x2g + 4540x0.71g = 9423g
Cards were sold for 28453g so that gives me profit of 19030g but this time I also calculated regents I got from Daily CDs and profession hut an if I sell them on Ah that's another 3300g

So if I add that i made profit of 22330g or about 2.92g per card

This time I didnt wrote down exact number of each card that i got, only for epics and I got: 1x6000g, 2x3000g, and 1x1000g.

If you want I can post some screenshots that I took

[bbmax]

Can it be done with 3x inscriptors at level 100 and 1 Bot farming 8h/day? for 40k profit / day?

Maybe my math is totally wrong, but I end up with some numbers close to that. It's all written by hand and it would be confusing to try to explain it here.

[markons]

I'm not exactly sure what are you asking but if you are asking about inscription then with 3 you would be able to make "only" 200 cards per day, that's if you are only using War Paints you get from daily CD and hut.
If you are lucky enough with missions and 1 per day ( with 3 that an happen most of the times ) you can make more, but not much more.

The reason why I make so many is that most of my inscribers are at max level + they have 25 followers doing mission. So I get about 100 Primals each day, thats 200 war paints or additional 400 cards.

Depending on how many characters you have and what level they are you can get them inscription and hut.

I spend only 15 min per day doing daily orders + CDs on my characters. Most time i spent making cards and opening them, today it took me about 90min to open all 7640 cards. So weekly I invest about about 2 hours for daily CDs + huts and checking the AH on bank character for herbs, then some 10-15min milling herb, 1.5hours making cards and War Paints from Primal Spirits + 1.5 hours opening cards. So in total about 5 hours each week, and this week i make 20k+ gold or some 4k per hour. Thats not bad considering you vendor the stuff and you dont have to spend time checking the Ah for undercuts and so on.

1. Start, before any card was flipped



2. When I got the first epic card



3. When I sold the cards to make room for new batch



4. And last, when I sold all the cards





Now something that worked last 2 expansions and it will work in Legion if they dont change anything.

My next goal is to have 21 characters to max level with max inscription before Legion hits. If Blizzard doesnt change anything regarding professions and daily CDs that way I would be ready to put out trinkets on in few days and make insane profit. When WoD hit I had my 1st trinket ready for sale on a 4th day and make 80k pure profit when I sold it. Tbh I think that's worth investing time in, and we still have months before release.

[Augury13]

This is awesome markons. Happy someone actually put work into finding more about these cards out. full rep for you for the work you put into this!

[Romath]

Great data, there were some others posted on reddit within the past few weeks that opened even more than this.

This guy opened 20,000 cards https://www.reddit.com/r/woweconomy/...card_of_omens/
This guy opened 50,000 cards https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comment...card_of_omens/

[markons]

This is awesome markons. Happy someone actually put work into finding more about these cards out. full rep for you for the work you put into this!

Thanks. I decided to see if that will works since I dont see the point in trying to sell upgrades anymore. Making 500-1000g for one upgrade is still great but after 12 months of making trinkets abd after that making upgrades and checking AH for undercuts every 30min I decided that it was enough.

Great data, there were some others posted on reddit within the past few weeks that opened even more than this.

This guy opened 20,000 cards https://www.reddit.com/r/woweconomy/...card_of_omens/
This guy opened 50,000 cards https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comment...card_of_omens/

50.000 cards is some dedication

I will still be doing this since it doesnt take much time and gives you nice profit. With last batch I opened some 21k cards and made profit of 53000g

[zadaza]

yep the value of every card is about 4g as wowhead says