Falcon punch!!!! Powa guide 71-80

[lsybarra]

Well, having found at that:

Creature damage output has been increased from roughly level 65 and up. These increases scale upward with level. Creatures in exterior zones at level 80 now have 2.5 times the damage output they did previously in beta, 3.2 times at level 81, and 4 times at level 82 and up.
-Blizzard
*Also creature health is doubled at lvl 80 and you cant accept quests at two levels lower like you used to.

: Meaning that all my chars need to get to 80. Making final characters. Doing anything but fine tuning my chars/gold/understanding.

I am giving full contributions to:

Mr.Jellybelly - http://www.mmowned.com/forums/world-...r-71-73-a.html (71 - 73)

Me - 73-77

Captain Bad - http://www.mmowned.com/forums/world-...00xp-hour.html (77 - 80)

Why am I writing this guide??? I had to get 2 chars 72/68 to 80, and 1 paladin from 1-80. Sheesh. Surfing this website I found a few guides + 1 that I would like to contribute.


Point of this guide is to compile all of them into one nifty packadge so here I go

DISCLAIMER - RESTED XP IS HIGHLY, HIGHLY RECOMMENDED AS THIS IS MOSTLY A GRIND GUIDE HAVING HERILOOM SHOULDERS/CHEST IS A MUST BUT IF YOU CANT GET THEM THIS GUIDE WILL STILL HELP. I USED ZYGORS GUIDE AS WELL ON 2 OF MY 80'S AND SOMETIMES THE DOWNTIME BETWEEN QUESTS VS GRINDING MOBS + LISTENING TO MUSIC, GRINDING COMES ON TOP.

REST = Rest - WoWWiki - Your guide to the World of Warcraft --


While in an inn or anywhere in a capital city, your player portrait will begin to glow and your level circle will say zzz, indicating that you are resting. If you log off here, you will continue to rest while offline.
One bar of rested XP (5% of a level) is earned for every 8 hours spent resting. A maximum of 30 bars (150% of a level) may be earned. In other words, you can leave your character resting in an inn or capital city for up to 10 days (without gaining experience) before you earn the maximum amount of rest state, and a resting character stores up one full level of rest in 160 hours (6.67 days).
You also become rested while logged off in the wilderness, but the accumulation is slower. When logged off "outside," rest is gained at one fourth the rate in an inn, or one bar every 32 hours.


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LEVEL 71-73



The mobs there have 2k hp, and gives 50 % of the exp a normal mob would give. They have a fast respawn timer, and they're not attacking hostiles(non-aggresive).

There's also some aggresive wolves, only a few, who you can kill aswell, for more exp, and some bigger birds who have 7k hp and give 100 % exp.

I believe that non-rested you can get 150k+ exp /hour here, and rested as i was, 300k+, up to 400k maybe. exp (I got 375k /h rested)



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LEVEL (74-77)


The mobs I personally grinded on was the mobs at 59,32. Wastes Digger - NPC - World of Warcraft And yes I have read the thread on the mobs at wowhead. From my knowledge I stumbled upon them quite a long time ago. They do have a nasty debuff that stacks to 5.

This is my way of doing it. First go to here:

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Then this is the route that you take:

Attachment 3834

I clear about half way 5-7 mobs then stop around here:
Attachment 3835

Wait for the debuff then clear the rest to here:

Attachment 3836

I started with 127,261 xp, in 1min and 30 seconds that include mounting and running back, my exp was at 145,765. That, does not include that the mobs were 5 levels below me to net me only 1644 per kill. 18,504 xp in 1 min 30 seconds. THAT DOES MEAN THAT I HAVE BOTH HEIRLOOMS + WEAPONS + RESTED XP NOT REGULAR GRINDING WITHOUT THE RESTED XP BUFF. That being said, If I was around there level they usually gave me at peak 2300xp per kill. At a max of 46 runs per hour. 18,504 X 46 =851,184...Now with 2300 xp per kill at prime 27,600 x 46 = 1,269,600 per hour. Not bad


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LEVEL (77-80)

This method of grinding can net you roughly 600,000XP/hour. This isn't the best method in the world, but it's fast, changes the pace of boring instance grinding/quest grinding and I personally like aerial vehicular combat.

Pros:
Faster than average XP gain. (For me anyway)
Absolute minimal downtime. (talking 3-4 seconds here)
Available to both Horde and Alliance.

Cons:
It's a grind.
You gain no loot. (Without taking a hit to your XP/hour ratio)
Requires Level 77 and a completion of a question chain.

The Quest Itself and what you need:
No Fly Zone - Quest - World of Warcraft
This quest provides you with an item called "Bone Gryphon"
It's a very fast mount and has a sprint type ability that makes you even faster.
Heirloom items. I would have not been able to net this XP gain without the two bonus XP heirloom items. Without them I would only be netting 480,000 xp an hour. Still decent but not as good.

The Trick:
A lot of vehicles don't yield XP to the player when they get a kill using it. The thing about this vehicle is it both yields XP and a lootable NPC body. This item that provides you with a Bone Gryphon flying mount can kill ONE mob and ONE mob only called the Onslaught Gryphon Rider which is located here: Onslaught Gryphon Rider - NPC - World of Warcraft
Basically, this mount gives you the capability of absolutely obliterating the mobs. This is especially handy if you're a melee class without a self heal.

The Method:
Not very difficult here. Just run around with your bone gryphon shooting down every single gryphon rider you see. There are SO many of them that it is absolutely impossible to run out and if you end up in a place that doesn't have any left, just use the vehicle mounts sprint ability and you can be in a populated area with tons of mob in seconds.

Now the problem is, you can't loot the corpses. Well you can, but if you want to max your XP at 600,000/hour you'll have to skip looting corpses. On top of that they're a pain to loot since many times they'll fall into the water or ontop of mobs that you cannot kill with your vehicle mount.

I hope this helps a few levelers out there. I know it's not the most awesome method in the world, but it's faster than what I know a lot of players are used to in terms of XP/hour wise.

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For the above guide I as well as the author recommend using Auto It. Luckly I had made a Auto It macro.

Download this program and it will automatically hit the "1" key which is the main spell bound to the griphon. The script to use is:

#ifWinActive World of Warcraft
{
$1::
Loop
{
if not GetKeyState("1", "P")
break
Send 1
sleep 1
}
return
}

Copy,Paste and activiate before you start WOW. At this point you just open wow start, then hold the "1" key down and it auto fires the button. To make a new script open the program, click the icon on the bottom left of the screeen, go to file, then edit script, delete everything on the page. copy and paste. Go to file, save as, save to your desktop then click the icon.

Also When I used this guide I did this this way, First get to the spot as it tell you then :

Attachment 3859

Then :

Attachment 3860

At this point after dismount:

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There will be X2 mobs floating around and it's RNG. They will auto respawn at times when you downing just 1. It's bascially clear as as fast as you can so they can respawn. I have had x2 respawn or x6 respawn at the I was cleaing the last one. It's weird. Any way numbers are WITH RESTED XP/HEIRLOOMS...... at 4 mins because I had to dismount/screenshot I gained 90,420 xp in 4 mins. 90,420 x 14 runs per hour = 1,265,880 xp per hour. Not bad at all.



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Everything I have posted ,I have used and have found it much, much better than using zygors guide. I do recommend zygors guide for beginning levels but to each his own. I really do hope this helps people doing the grind from 71-80.

GL HF. Thanks again mmowned as I will be donating in the next month. I love this place as it fights the machine. $15 x 10mil subscribers. Sub Par gaming at times.

[lsybarra]

Feedback would be nice

[lsybarra]

.........>_<...........

[Cromat]

Questing is faster, I can pull out 500-700 XP/h.

Your grind-guide fails horrible.

[lsybarra]

Questing is faster, I can pull out 500-700 XP/h.

Your grind-guide fails horrible.

Lol....If you didnt notice......



DISCLAIMER - RESTED XP IS HIGHLY, HIGHLY RECOMMENDED AS THIS IS MOSTLY A GRIND GUIDE HAVING HERILOOM SHOULDERS/CHEST IS A MUST BUT IF YOU CANT GET THEM THIS GUIDE WILL STILL HELP. I USED ZYGORS GUIDE AS WELL ON 2 OF MY 80'S AND SOMETIMES THE DOWNTIME BETWEEN QUESTS VS GRINDING MOBS + LISTENING TO MUSIC, GRINDING COMES ON TOP.


And how is it slower and fail...One ..one mob kill gives 2300xp with everything...how is that slow and downing about 6-8 every minute...
sure buddy

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Questing is faster, I can pull out 500-700 XP/h.

Your grind-guide fails horrible.

REST = Rest - WoWWiki - Your guide to the World of Warcraft --


While in an inn or anywhere in a capital city, your player portrait will begin to glow and your level circle will say zzz, indicating that you are resting. If you log off here, you will continue to rest while offline.
One bar of rested XP (5% of a level) is earned for every 8 hours spent resting. A maximum of 30 bars (150% of a level) may be earned. In other words, you can leave your character resting in an inn or capital city for up to 10 days (without gaining experience) before you earn the maximum amount of rest state, and a resting character stores up one full level of rest in 160 hours (6.67 days).
You also become rested while logged off in the wilderness, but the accumulation is slower. When logged off "outside," rest is gained at one fourth the rate in an inn, or one bar every 32 hours.

[tkoreaper]

It has been proven that questing > grinding even with rested XP. While questing you are still killing stuff, or gathering stuff (which is quicker than killing) Feel free to use your zygor's guide along with an addon that give you your XP per hour and compare the difference between that and grinding.

Well, having found at that:

Creature damage output has been increased from roughly level 65 and up. These increases scale upward with level. Creatures in exterior zones at level 80 now have 2.5 times the damage output they did previously in beta, 3.2 times at level 81, and 4 times at level 82 and up.
-Blizzard
*Also creature health is doubled at lvl 80 and you cant accept quests at two levels lower like you used to.

This is coming from beta, they are testing the effects of creature health. It is NOT set in stone at this point and can change at any time. I believe the quest restriction is to limit you to only doing quests of your level for the sake of the beta and testing only. Blizzard wouldn't be that stupid as to make it impossible to do quests that aren't your level, just think of all the achievements people would miss out on. Also, what you failed to mention is that experience gained in Northrend will be INCREASED, just like every expansion has done.

[lsybarra]

It has been proven that questing > grinding even with rested XP. While questing you are still killing stuff, or gathering stuff (which is quicker than killing) Feel free to use your zygor's guide along with an addon that give you your XP per hour and compare the difference between that and grinding.



This is coming from beta, they are testing the effects of creature health. It is NOT set in stone at this point and can change at any time. I believe the quest restriction is to limit you to only doing quests of your level for the sake of the beta and testing only. Blizzard wouldn't be that stupid as to make it impossible to do quests that aren't your level, just think of all the achievements people would miss out on. Also, what you failed to mention is that experience gained in Northrend will be INCREASED, just like every expansion has done.

Just updated with screen shots at lvl 78 herilooms, rested xp. When you ahve more than 2 toons like me I have time to sit my chars in rested xp zones....This isnt intended for fast xp for 1 char. this is for people that have chars already and have 1 alt to 2 alts to 3 alts that are ready to grind the end game and keep them there. NOOB

[lsybarra]

Thanks for all the wonderfull feedback!!!

[tkoreaper]

Just updated with screen shots at lvl 78 herilooms, rested xp. When you ahve more than 2 toons like me I have time to sit my chars in rested xp zones....This isnt intended for fast xp for 1 char. this is for people that have chars already and have 1 alt to 2 alts to 3 alts that are ready to grind the end game and keep them there. NOOB

I'm sorry, but did you just call me a noob? =/

I have multiple toons, like you, that I have leveled to 80. Of course I didn't do this all at once, I did them over the course of 3 years. The thing I don't understand is what I said to deserve being called a noob. Was it me telling you that your guide is a waste of time because it's been proven that questing is faster EVEN WITH rested experience? Heirloom doesn't even matter because it effects BOTH quest and kill experience.

Or am I deserving of being called a noob because you believe changes made on the beta are permanent? I am currently in beta... beta is for testing... numbers are tweaked all over the place and the results are tested. Restrictions are put into place to ensure proper testing is being made. None of things being done are guaranteed to be on live when cata comes out.

You are more than welcome to continue grinding mob after mob making small bits of XP, afterall, you pay your subscription costs... I don't. But while you're out killing the same mobs, I'll be enjoying myself by questing where the experience can be up to 3 times greater than grinding alone... Not to mention quest rewards so your character can grow. I don't know what's more noobish... going into a random dungeon and getting stuck with a guy in full lvl 73 greens because he never quested and only grinded to 80?... or getting stuck with a guy with full quest blues that can do more than 1k dps as a fresh 80?

[lsybarra]

I'm sorry, but did you just call me a noob? =/

I have multiple toons, like you, that I have leveled to 80. Of course I didn't do this all at once, I did them over the course of 3 years. The thing I don't understand is what I said to deserve being called a noob. Was it me telling you that your guide is a waste of time because it's been proven that questing is faster EVEN WITH rested experience? Heirloom doesn't even matter because it effects BOTH quest and kill experience.

Or am I deserving of being called a noob because you believe changes made on the beta are permanent? I am currently in beta... beta is for testing... numbers are tweaked all over the place and the results are tested. Restrictions are put into place to ensure proper testing is being made. None of things being done are guaranteed to be on live when cata comes out.

You are more than welcome to continue grinding mob after mob making small bits of XP, afterall, you pay your subscription costs... I don't. But while you're out killing the same mobs, I'll be enjoying myself by questing where the experience can be up to 3 times greater than grinding alone... Not to mention quest rewards so your character can grow. I don't know what's more noobish... going into a random dungeon and getting stuck with a guy in full lvl 73 greens because he never quested and only grinded to 80?... or getting stuck with a guy with full quest blues that can do more than 1k dps as a fresh 80?

Oh wait...did you not see my slashed thread that has the what i found in "cata" but wait I didnt post it in this guide becuase I had to revamp this whole guide because a admin said I had to. Not to make a new post. Yea, getting 1.2 million xp on a rested alt is caca. gtfo you freaking rage

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with a name like TKOREAPER means a whole ton since you cant ko worth shit

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I pvp...who the **** cares about pve. Oh wait you must either be a dps or a noob. And I have "PRE CATA" ways to level. because you know. it's a few months away..you know...a few months a way...you know...a few months away...you know. lets them nerf it. I dont give a shit all my chars are to 80. your posts are crap too. fyi.

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Did you even read my updated thread with pictures??
can you get 1.2 million xp an hour grinding on rested toons???

I have screen shots to prove my point. good day noob

and it's nice getting my char to 77-80 in 1 day...well 3 over all rested xp ect. and I am helping prove there guides are great.

noob = tkoreaper

[tkoreaper]

Lol this whole thread is fail, I'm not even going to bother with you... you make no sense at all and you lack competence. Oh and you seem to be only capable of spewing out numbers with no proof. It's ok though, I see people like you every day.

It's funny how your guide above says you net about 600k/hr... yet you just said 1.2mil/hr lmao... good job trolling. I personally get around 800k/hr questing from 70-75. Unlike you, I will back-up my claim with a screenshot.

[lsybarra]

can you like...read? if you notice i posted the original thread of the person who made the 1ist and third guide. I made the second one with screen shots/how to. The third guide I even posted a autoit macros + screen shots and how I did it. netting around 1.2 mill. But if you cant read that. then noob

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Lol this whole thread is fail, I'm not even going to bother with you... you make no sense at all and you lack competence. Oh and you seem to be only capable of spewing out numbers with no proof. It's ok though, I see people like you every day.

It's funny how your guide above says you net about 600k/hr... yet you just said 1.2mil/hr lmao... good job trolling. I personally get around 800k/hr questing from 70-75. Unlike you, I will back-up my claim with a screenshot.

I am giving full contributions to:

Mr.Jellybelly - http://www.mmowned.com/forums/world-...r-71-73-a.html (71 - 73)

Me - 73-77

Captain Bad - http://www.mmowned.com/forums/world-...00xp-hour.html (77 - 80)
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"It's funny how your guide above says you net about 600k/hr... yet you just said 1.2mil/hr lmao... good job trolling"

LEVEL (74-77)


The mobs I personally grinded on was the mobs at 59,32. Wastes Digger - NPC - World of Warcraft And yes I have read the thread on the mobs at wowhead. From my knowledge I stumbled upon them quite a long time ago. They do have a nasty debuff that stacks to 5.

This is my way of doing it. First go to here:



Then this is the route that you take:



I clear about half way 5-7 mobs then stop around here:


Wait for the debuff then clear the rest to here:



I started with 127,261 xp, in 1min and 30 seconds that include mounting and running back, my exp was at 145,765. That, does not include that the mobs were 5 levels below me to net me only 1644 per kill. 18,504 xp in 1 min 30 seconds. THAT DOES MEAN THAT I HAVE BOTH HEIRLOOMS + WEAPONS + RESTED XP NOT REGULAR GRINDING WITHOUT THE RESTED XP BUFF. That being said, If I was around there level they usually gave me at peak 2300xp per kill. At a max of 46 runs per hour. 18,504 X 46 =851,184...Now with 2300 xp per kill at prime 27,600 x 46 = 1,269,600 per hour. Not bad '

MY GUIDE ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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Captain Bad - http://www.mmowned.com/forums/world-...00xp-hour.html (77 - 80) HIS GUIDE


MY UPDATE WITH AUTO IT MACROS + SCREEN SHOTS:

For the above guide I as well as the author recommend using Auto It. Luckly I had made a Auto It macro.

Download this program and it will automatically hit the "1" key which is the main spell bound to the griphon. The script to use is:

#ifWinActive World of Warcraft
{
$1::
Loop
{
if not GetKeyState("1", "P")
break
Send 1
sleep 1
}
return
}

Copy,Paste and activiate before you start WOW. At this point you just open wow start, then hold the "1" key down and it auto fires the button. To make a new script open the program, click the icon on the bottom left of the screeen, go to file, then edit script, delete everything on the page. copy and paste. Go to file, save as, save to your desktop then click the icon.

Also When I used this guide I did this this way, First get to the spot as it tell you then :



Then :



At this point after dismount:



There will be X2 mobs floating around and it's RNG. They will auto respawn at times when you downing just 1. It's bascially clear as as fast as you can so they can respawn. I have had x2 respawn or x6 respawn at the I was cleaing the last one. It's weird. Any way numbers are WITH RESTED XP/HEIRLOOMS...... at 4 mins because I had to dismount/screenshot I gained 90,420 xp in 4 mins. 90,420 x 14 runs per hour = 1,265,880 xp per hour. Not bad at all.

[tkoreaper]

If you had any comprehensive skills you would understand that my argument is about Grinding not being better than questing, but judging by your writing skills I guess I'm going to dumb down what I mean even further so you can understand. The first two guides (the 71-77 ones) ARE grinding and you ARE gaining much lower XP per hour than what you would be gaining by questing. THAT is what my argument is referring to. Your last guide however, is taking advantage of a bug (gaining XP while mounted when you shouldn't be able to) so it is NOT your typical grinding. You can't expect to take such a small sample size (4 minutes of grinding) and then just multiply it and say "you get ***XP and hour) You have to take into account respawn time and traveling time.

Regardless whether or not you still want to argue with me, this is still a pretty bad guide. Not only did you just repost what had already been posted, but you actually managed to gain some rep from this. The first 2 parts are worthless because it's not the best leveling strategy, but the third part where you just added a little extra trick that someone can do could have been better served being posted in the owners thread or recommended that he add it to his guide. You don't deserve rep for this.

And btw, Zygor's guide sucks... use Dugi's.

[lsybarra]

Lol what a noob. I reposted and gave credit to authors first and last. Then the last one I improved. showed that getting 1+ mill an hour is possible and how I used it + I even included an auto it macro and how to use it. My guide has mobs that respawn insanly fast which is probably not how blizz intended. And I posted the middle guide is 1+ mill possible an hour. But the flak comming from your hateful soul makes me smile because if you did use it you would probably know that it's very. very helpful. Not to you but to others. And are you really foreign? Traveling time = ten seconds to mount and redo the the waypoints. A blood dk in frost spec, I never never stopped once to wait for respawn. Just read read the post, cuz your spewing crap from you pie hole. But hey your a noob. Noobs like you just hate to not try it. But your a flaming noob. noob

[tkoreaper]

Again, you fail to comprehend my posts. I give up. It's bad enough when my IQ gets lower when I read your responses.