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    Ret Paladin guide (srsly)

    Roll your head on the keyboard.

    Nah jk, Im writing this guide because I am in the midst of gearing up a ret paladin and I could not find a single guide on the net that gives an up to date ret pally gearing guide, along with spec and rotation

    I will begin with the specs and rotations as they are the most important :P

    Spec: I will preface this with the following statement, Paladin talent trees are godawful. They are the worst trees of any class end of story, most of the utility talents are crap for pve so this leaves us to straight damage talents.
    Now the spec :
    Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft
    This is the most pve oriented spec with as few filler talents as possible
    Any questions about the spec feel free to post them but this is the highest theoretical dps.

    Rotation:
    *KEEP YOUR SEAL UP* SoV is the obvious choice for bosses and SoCMM is obvious for trash that dies quickly, I believe the rule is
    If life>12sec than SoV otherwise Socmm
    according to CLCret- a ret pally rotation addon, the rotation is CS Judge DS Exo, Conse
    This is a good rough gude as a rotation but to be honest it just doesnt hold up in a raid situation

    I prefer the following
    If it is a boss you run to then Judge asap
    Otherwise this is simply a priority system

    HoW is top priority, then CS, then DS, then Judge, then Exo, dont bother with consecrate unless its an aoe pull, you will oom on bosses if you spam conse.

    Next, the gear

    With 3.3.3 dropping crafted gear has become exponentially cheaper, so I will be listing a lot of crafted gear as it will be affordable

    At a later time I can post a guide for those of you who are cheapskates but here is intro gear, the only obscenely expensive piece will be the weapon, however it is leaps and bounds better than any that you will find outside of arena or ICC

    Head: Turalyon's Helm of Conquest - Item - World of Warcraft
    Neck:Spiked Battleguard Choker - Item - World of Warcraft
    Shoulder: Turalyon's Shoulderplates of Conquest - Item - World of Warcraft
    Back:Drape of the Undefeated - Item - World of Warcraft If you get 1 item from reg toc let this be it, it is an amazing cloak and will tide you over till you have the 264 frost one
    Chest:Titanium Razorplate - Item - World of Warcraft (ARP is a bad stat however its better than anything you can get due to the 3 sockets)
    Wrist:Belt of the Titans - Item - World of Warcraft They are better than 213, and while ARP is bad they will tide you over until you can grab something better
    Hands: Turalyon's Gauntlets of Conquest - Item - World of Warcraft
    Waist: Belt of the Titans - Item - World of Warcraft
    Legs:Turalyon's Legplates of Conquest - Item - World of Warcraft
    Feet:Battlelord's Plate Boots - Item - World of Warcraft
    Ring1: Bloodshed Band - Item - World of Warcraft
    Ring2:Signet of Edward the Odd - Item - World of Warcraft May be expensive but the haste proc is really cool and this ring will tide you over until you can hop into uld/toc/icc
    Trinket1:Darkmoon Card: Greatness - Item - World of Warcraft Get it get it get it get it, the best piece of boe gear, translates into just over 400 str with the proc up due to Divine Strength, 45sec internal cd, amazing trinket
    Trinket2:Mark of Supremacy - Item - World of Warcraft OR Mirror of Truth - Item - World of Warcraft, up to you if you need the hit or not
    Weapon: Quel'Delar, Might of the Faithful - Item - World of Warcraft Amazing for ret paladins, Orca-Hunter's Harpoon - Item - World of Warcraft is the second best with tyrannical beheader coming in at third, but please, buy this weapon, it is on par with most icc 10 weapons
    Libram: Libram of Valiance - Item - World of Warcraft

    Gems and Enchants
    Meta: Chaotic Skyflare Diamond - Item - World of Warcraft should be obvious why
    Red: Bold Cardinal Ruby - Item - World of Warcraft
    Blue: Bold Cardinal Ruby - Item - World of Warcraft , unless the socket bonus is great in which case a Sovereign Dreadstone - Item - World of Warcraft is also good, in fact one of the dreadstones and a nightmare tear are necessary for your meta
    Yellow: Yep you guessed it Bold Cardinal Ruby - Item - World of Warcraft , if the socket bonus is incredible grab a crit gem or a str/crit gem Inscribed Ametrine - Item - World of Warcraft

    Enchants:
    Head:Arcanum of Torment - Item - World of Warcraft
    Back:Scroll of Enchant Cloak - Major Agility - Item - World of Warcraft ... the enchant itself not the scroll
    Shoulder: Greater Inscription of the Axe - Item - World of Warcraft
    Chest: Formula: Enchant Chest - Powerful Stats - Item - World of Warcraft
    Bracer: Formula: Enchant Bracers - Greater Assault - Item - World of Warcraft
    Hands:Scroll of Enchant Gloves - Crusher - Item - World of Warcraft
    Belt:Eternal Belt Buckle - Item - World of Warcraft
    Legs: Icescale Leg Armor - Item - World of Warcraft
    Feet: Formula: Enchant Boots - Greater Assault - Item - World of Warcraft

    Weapon: Formula: Enchant Weapon - Berserking - Item - World of Warcraft the only clear choice

    Well, this is about it for the guide, ive covered gear, enchants, gems, spec, and rotation, however I do not claim to know everything about Ret paladins. If anyone has any constructive criticism and would like to add anything feel free to post, however if you are here to flame gtfo.

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    add in for extra reference for those who cba to search for 3 minutes.

    http://elitistjerks.com/f76/t37843-r...d_wrath_3_0_a/

    with ^ rotation in their guide able to do 6-6.5 k dps with 4800 GS Bmademedoit on kil'jaeden for gear/spec/glyphs

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    cool thanks man
    Disregard my section about rotation
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    Why 2/3 2h weap spec?

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    oh wow...fail...I thought it was a 2pt talent

    Just take a point out of Divine Intellect and put it there
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    I play a Ret Pally and have never ever seen the spec you posted. 90% of people spec using
    Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft
    This spec has been calculated to produce the most DPs possible.
    your rotation depends on your gear. If you have 2PC T9 Judgement has a higher priority over CS. When you have 2PC T10 DS gets priority over CS. Judgement is always use ahead of DS unless you have 2Pc T10. and on boss fights you do use Consecration. You will not go OOM if you keep it up the whole time and use DP accordingly.

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    pvp spec brah, divine sac has wayyyy more raid utility
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    That is the main PvE spec. Divine sac no longer has raid viability as it no longer covers the entire raid. just your party.

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    So why is aura mastery viable at all in pve
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    In fights that have raid wide damage with fire, frost or shadow you pop AM do reduce the damage.

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    all right, disregard my spec then
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    Also a majority of the time it is better to use Relentless Earthsiege Diamond - Item - World of Warcraft having to socket 2 Blue gems sucks. Blue sockets are only useful in gear that has +8 STR bonus(IE: Gendarme's Cuirass - Item - World of Warcraft). For the yellow sockets if the bonus is +4 STR or higher you use the ametrine.

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    but doesnt the relentless offer less crit in total than the chaotic
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    The extra stats from not needing a 10STR 15 STAM make up for the very small crit loss.

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    aight cool thanks man, im still kinda new to ret
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