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    Lvl 80 Holy Paladin PVE

    Okay so i intended to use Moo's format for his priest guide, but thats way to many [Fonts] [Size] and [Color] breaking it down old school, credit to moo for giving me the idea. <3


    Spec
    Basically, the one thing a paladin needs is crit, paladins are very good at raid healing aswell as Maintank/Maintarget healing -- IE: Some of the instants for Naxx (KT) Holy Shock + Divine Favor -- Genius! Anyways, onto the Spec. WorldofWarcraft.com -> Info -> Classes -> Paladin -> Talent Calculator
    Huge link, yes i know.. thats the BASIC spec pre 3.1 -- mainly what you're going for as you can see by the spec is Lots of crit.




    Stats
    As i said in the first part, main stat would be crit -- Obvious stats go as Crit/Spell power/Mana / some more crit. Gearing and Gemming can be quite.. for lack of a better word, boring? Well.. the instances you need to be running for gear aswell as what factions to get rep with.. (Argent Crusade) is a must for Exalted a very nice ring/helm for them. Kirin'Tor for the Head enchant (Pre-Sons of Hodir Exalted) Those are the basic reputations you need to build.


    Rotations
    As a holy paladin you don't need to worry about over-healing as much (Judgement of Light) Assures you're over-healing more than anyone. I use mouse-over healing (personal preference) it's all on what your reactions are and how you deal with sticky situations .. The basic rotation i've used is obviously known spells "Holy Light / Holy Shock / Flash of Light / Sacred Shield" I use holy shock on everything when it's up, to get a crit then instant FoL after the effect, sacred shield is a must on the tank, the extra crit ability with flash of light tends to save mana and lives. Beacon should also be used on maintank when you're raid healing to midigate most of the damage incoming to him. -Thanks Meetyourmumm

    Situational Effects


    1) Tanks getting hammered, needs heals immedietly, but you see you're getting low from ... AoE Damage? (Cast Holy Shock (macro) Divine Favor on tank and heal yourself, Holy Light is a long cast time but with the spec you get increased haste so its rockin about 1.8 sec cast --

    2) Boss where the healing is 0 until the aura is moved for 7 seconds...
    ALOT of people are taking damage, you're trying to pick and choose whos important to heal, and whos not. The way i do this is holy shock (auto-crit) and holy light the next person and Flash of light -- 3 heals in a 5-6 second duration is better than most can offer, paladins have the capability of doing what other healers cant.



    Gems/Enchants

    It's a bit obvious the stats i've told you to go for, Intellect / Spell power / Crit -- I never gem crit, most of the time 16 int or 19 Sp depending on if the socket bonus is worth sacrificing the stat. Enchant wise you're going for Spell power on most items


    ie: Wep (50 SP) unless your amazingly rich and wanna go with 63
    ie: Shield(25 Intellect) Highest int on shield i believe
    ie: Boots(Icewalker) for the crit/hit (Crits important!)
    ie: Hands(Spell power 28 i believe?) Main raw spellpower will increase your healing immensly
    ie: Chest (stats + etc..
    ie:Bracers (30 SP)
    ie:Head / Shoulders (wintergrasp chant (pvp) or wyrmcrest and sons of hodir "thanks moo"

    I can't think of anything else to let you know, if something anyone knows that I didn't mention, please let me know, I'll jump right on it.



    OH WAIT!

    ADDONS

    For healing the addons are quite numerous - - since i use mouse-over healing I use Grid and mouse-over the box to continuously have a step ahead of all healers to save the tank from dying due to lack of co-ordination.

    As moo said, visual heal saves your mana like crazy, no use in spamming heals when they're getting healed, attention on another target!

    DBM (For bosses with non-healing aura's) Loatheb etc..

    Thats about it, all the addons i use are quite helpful, unless you're a champ and use blizzards raid groups (I used to )

    For all you paladins, stay strong, holy is the shit, give it time and you will be god. GOODLUCK !!!!

    Hope it helped, and thanks again moo for the idea, you're a god.



    LOATHEB

    One thing you should do on Loathweb (healing debuff boss Naxx) is when you see 1 second left on the debuff, start your Holy Light cast (your timing it so its casting while the debuff is still on) as soon as that's casted do a holy shock then a flash of light.

    One more thing is during the healing debuff phase you can still Beacon and Sacred Shield your targets. In 25 man's im normally in charge of one group on my own. While priests do COH etc. to their whole group. During the healing debuff phase im keeping an eye out on who has the lowest hps. He will be the one I cast sacred shield on The person with the second lowest hps will be the one I beacon. (You will not heal him at all as he will get healed by the beacon power when your healing the others) As soon as you see 1 second left on the timer start your Holy Light cast on the target with the lowest hps (the one with sacred shield) Holy Shock one of the remaining 3 people and flash of light whoever else needed a heal. Right there you just brought 4 people up to full health in your group in one healing debuff phase.

    Make sure to Judge the boss during the healing debuff phase as well to always have Jusdgement of the Pure up at all times.


    Also I will add whenever your healing a Raid most likely as a Holy Pally you will be in charge of the MT by yourself. (Pallys shine at single target healing and are very mana efficient) When you are in charge of healing the Main Tank Beacon yourself so that way you'll always be topped off. Because if you die the tank dies and the Raid Wipes. This will also make it easier on whoever is in charge of Raid heals as well.
    --bokyong
    Last edited by evann; 03-24-2009 at 10:36 PM.

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    I'm a ret pally myself, thought about trying holy, thanks for the small guide! +2rep

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    Dude, I love you!! I was thinking about switching to holy and this be awesome!! Saved Link for future reference.
    + Rep

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    Well, I actually have more to add to this, I've become a very good holy paladin with timed heals and less overhealing -- I can teach you anything you would like to know from what to do and when to do it. Please, hit me up if you have ANY questions, i'll answer with professionalism.

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    Haha, finally you created your guide - and its even more detailed than mine lol! Gj mate and +cookies from here!

    EDIT: Found out i already gave you lol xD

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    <3 Moo I tried using your guide man it was brutal!

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    125 Viewers 5 Posts? Cmon guys give me some feedback -- You like it? What should I add in??? Hit me up!

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    Uh, got an imput - you forgot bracers enchant(30 SP) Head + shoulder enchant(rep with wyrmcrest and sons of hodir) Otherwise its perfect - shine it up with abit of colors

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    beacon of light usage in 5/10/25 man.

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    Totally forgot about that, wow, thanks bro. Added.

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    I just changed to Holy 5 minutes ago, good guide

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    One thing you should do on Loathweb (healing debuff boss Naxx) is when you see 1 second left on the debuff, start your Holy Light cast (your timing it so its casting while the debuff is still on) as soon as that's casted do a holy shock then a flash of light.

    One more thing is during the healing debuff phase you can still Beacon and Sacred Shield your targets. In 25 man's im normally in charge of one group on my own. While priests do COH etc. to their whole group. During the healing debuff phase im keeping an eye out on who has the lowest hps. He will be the one I cast sacred shield on The person with the second lowest hps will be the one I beacon. (You will not heal him at all as he will get healed by the beacon power when your healing the others) As soon as you see 1 second left on the timer start your Holy Light cast on the target with the lowest hps (the one with sacred shield) Holy Shock one of the remaining 3 people and flash of light whoever else needed a heal. Right there you just brought 4 people up to full health in your group in one healing debuff phase.

    Make sure to Judge the boss during the healing debuff phase as well to always have Jusdgement of the Pure up at all times.


    Also I will add whenever your healing a Raid most likely as a Holy Pally you will be in charge of the MT by yourself. (Pallys shine at single target healing and are very mana efficient) When you are in charge of healing the Main Tank Beacon yourself so that way you'll always be topped off. Because if you die the tank dies and the Raid Wipes. This will also make it easier on whoever is in charge of Raid heals as well.
    Last edited by bokyong; 03-24-2009 at 07:34 PM.

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    Thanks for the advice, I no longer play pally (banned) I'll add it to the guide, It will be a MMowned Compiled Guide! Pitch in details everyone!

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    As i said in the first part, main stat would be crit...
    Not technically, the main stat a Paladin is looking to stack is Intellect. I understand that Intellect gives you spell crit, but the way you worded this part makes things deceiving.

    As a holy paladin you don't need to worry about over-healing as much (Judgement of Light) Assures you're over-healing more than anyone.
    While this is the case pre-Uludar, once 3.1 hits Paladins will have to be more conservative with their mana based on the 25-man encounters. Also, the Holy Paladin should be the last person to judge light considering it scales with AP. Another pet peeve I have is when a Holy or Ret Paladin over-rides a Judge placed by a Prot Paladin; the reasoning is because deep in the Prot tree Paladins have a talent that when judging an emeny, the judge slows enemies attack speed by 20%.

    I never gem crit, most of the time 16 int or 19 Sp depending on if the socket bonus is worth sacrificing the stat.
    99% of the time it's not worth gemming for anything but Intellect unless you need a certain color for your Meta to work or the socket bonus + a mixed gem is superior to plain Intel.

    ie:Bracers (30 SP)
    Intellect to Bracers is superior when taking into consideration all the bonuses you get from your talents.

    ie:Head / Shoulders (wintergrasp chant (pvp)...
    Ugh, don't encourage mediorcraty, do your SoH dailies.


    As far as add-ons go, Clique and Grid is the best combination for Paladin healing, bar none. Considering we have a limited number of weapons in our arsenal, you can bind practically everything to your mouse, leaving your target on the boss to show who he's targeting, what he's casting, and to help keep JotP up constantly. Trust me, I tried X-Perl unit frame healing for about 2 years, and Clique / Grid has made me 5 times a better player.

    EDIT: Just looked at the spec you linked, and while most of it is tolerable...there is no need for Imp Judgement. Put those 2 points into Imp BoM.

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    Im thinking about trying some heal with my pala, ty for the guide it help

    bb and have fun

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