Hunter in 3.0.2

[Apartment Wolf]

Beast Mastery


Exotic Pets.

O yar there here and for any Die-hard BM fans they are a must-have!

Talent Build (51/10/0):
Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft

This is for Maximised Exotic pet damage, and for DPS I highly reccomend the devilsaur found in Un'goro level 55 when tamed becomes level 65



For PVP or DPS/armor tame either the Chimara from SMV or the Spawn of Uvoros (the big 2 headed hell hound :])



Spec accordingly, as I pvp I selected the Demon hound and Specced him for Dash, increased damage, stacking pet ap, then with the 4 extra pet talent points you gain from "Beast Mastery" I specced Heart of the Phoenix (which resurects pet with full health when he/she dies) and The Roars as putting them on your action bar and using it increases parties AP by 10% which is a pretty nice statistic. Speccing for aspects is a must, the only criticism I have of this spec is that you don't have 5/5 Mortal shots so whether you put 5 in mortal or careful aim is up to you personally i find the AP with my intellect produces far greater damage.

However pushing Exotic pets to the side the best Raid damage I found was

Talent Build (43/18/0):
Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft

or

Talent Build (50/11/0):
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=ctbMztgRmu0gRx0eMo
^^ Presuming you are Hitcapped with good crit and intellect

Which is much more similar to the 2.4.3 patch spec just with a few nifty extras, such as longevity, you also gain the new aimed shot! (instant cast.) and Go for the throat ensures you keep high focus/damage.

The New BM steady shot Macro :O

#showtooltip Steady Shot
/console Sound_EnableSFX 0
/cast Steady Shot
/cast [target=pettarget,exists] Claw
/cast [target=pettarget,exists] Rabid
/console Sound_EnableSFX 1

And the New supWTFMudkipxDPS Macro?

/use Bestial Wrath
/use Kill Command
/use (X trinket)
/Use Rapid Fire
/Use (Racial Damage increase? Orcs?)



Marksmanship


Crits and high hits :O

My recomended damage and PVP spec is

Talent Build (0/54/7):
Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft

This incorporates the brand new 51 pt Chimaera shot which is extremely useful for PVP. Meanwhile providing increased damage the new instant aimed shot and some new procs.

Only major downside is this spec doesn't incorporate Silencing shot which is generally fovored for PVP so you may choose to deduct points from Survival tree to include this.

An example of a more appropriate MM PVP build would be

Talent Build (0/56/5):
Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft

Which includes piercing shots which do increase damage and silencing shot for PVP.



Survival


Moar MANaz I haz THem.


My chosen spec was

Talent Build (0/10/51):
Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft

This spec maximises damage whilst including the all new exploding shot :O
including the 10 points in MM you get the Crit bonuses of marksmanship with the Mana regen and crits of Surv spec.

This spec upholds its use in raids more than ever with Traps, mana regen and the ability to crit like theres no tommorow, this spec also provides a lot of stamina so is ideal for high HP PVP

Other people may choose to sacrifice the points in mana regen to max noxious stings or take Scatter shot for PVP.

Overall I dont think Hunters got a Bad deal in 3.0.2

Allthough watch out some of the BM pets are still very buggy in early stages of patch (many run patterns are odd.)

Hope you enjoyed this and Good luck Hunters :]


This is my Guide and It's not ripped if you find this anywhere please PM me :]

Updating the Guide with other users inputs, thankyou all who have contributed.

For all the latest Updates check at http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t28573-h...es_discussion/

[xQzme?]

pretty useful mate but that 43/18/0 build u say is better for PvE then 51/10/0?


+Rep cookie for you

[Apartment Wolf]

Ofc it is as cool as they are Exotic pets is Terribad for PVE and i should know I test raided it in Hount Hyjal then respeced 43/18 for Archimonde and it rocked the talents from MM are unmissable for raiding.

[Sensisativa]

Then again you can almost top the chart spamming volley the whole time, our aoe is f'ing sweet now.

[Apartment Wolf]

for aoe mobs maybe, single bossea and your on the fail traim :]

[Sensisativa]

true, but I thought it would be kinda implied, but then again, this is wow.

[killlah4]

Ok builds, but there is no need for 5/5 Hunting Party.
Remove 2 points and get 3/3 Noxious Stings or something.

[Apartment Wolf]

The reason i chose that Surv build is raid benefits, the mana regen is really useful :]

[TehGoggles]

Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft

50/11 is the raiding build if you have hit cap, over 35% crit, and a good amount of intellect.

[Sensisativa]

2/5 hunting party will keep it up almost all the time, put the 3 elsewhere.

[killlah4]

The reason i chose that Surv build is raid benefits, the mana regen is really useful :]

So what?
Like I said no need for 5/5..:P

[Apartment Wolf]

Updated guide ^^

[TehGoggles]

I'm adding in more input

The 3.02 Steady Shot Macro (Not as important as before, due to steady no longer clipping auto. But it'll be a dps increase using a macro, just not as big as before.)

#showtooltip Steady Shot
/console Sound_EnableSFX 0
/cast Steady Shot
/cast [target=pettarget,exists] Claw
/cast [target=pettarget,exists] Rabid
/console Sound_EnableSFX 1

Best pet for PvE is probably Cat. Rake + Maul (From a bear or cat) is awesome,assuming it doesn't get nerfed. Scorpids and Raptors are also highly up there.

Best spec so far for pets(raiding) is Pet Calculator - Wowhead (Why no Heart of the Phoenix? Because a good hunter knows how to keep his pet up, especially if you have 2 piece bonus of tier 5. Plus, Pets are a lot less squishy now. And why no Call of the wild? I remember reading the math somewhere that Rapid outweighs the dps gained from Call of the wild.)

Add Rapid into your Steady shot macro so it goes off every 45 seconds.

And since Kill Command got changed, you should add it into your "Leet buff" macro, like

/use Bestial Wrath
/use Kill Command
/use (X trinket)

Add in Racials and your trinket and you're good to go.

For every point in Focused aim you need 16ish less hit rating. The hit cap is 143, so if you have 3/3 you only need around 95ish.

I got a PM about why I didn't put 5/5 mortal shots in my spec listed above. Mortal Shots no longer affects auto shots, so it's no where near as big as a dps increase as it used to be. And the reason why I only have 1/2 in Go for the throat is when you have around 35% Crit, You'll be critting so much your pet has full focus anyway.

Oh I remembered, The best Tenacity pet right now is most deinflty the Gorilla (Aka, the Gorillidan) Thunderstomp is extremely OP right now. It crits for almost 1k. Very nice.

[TehGoggles]

And the reason behind my madness for the build I posted

Credits go to Mattaos from the Elitist Jerk forums

Improved Aspect of the Hawk - Rank 5/5 – Still a DPS increase
While Aspect of the Hawk is active, all normal ranged attacks have a 10% chance of increasing ranged attack speed by 15% for 12 sec.

Endurance Training - Rank 1/5 – Dump Piont
Increases the Health of your pet by 2% and your total health by 1%.

Focused Fire - Rank 2/2 - Must Have Talent
All damage caused by you is increased by 2% while your pet is active and the critical strike chance of your pet's special abilities is increased by 20% while Kill Command is active.

Improved Revive Pet - Rank 2/2 - Raid Must & Point Allocation to move on to the next tier
Revive Pet's casting time is reduced by 6 sec, mana cost is reduced by 40%, and increases the health your pet returns with by an additional 30%.

Aspect Mastery - Rank 1/1 - DPS increase for AotH & AotV
Aspect of the Viper - Reduces the damage penalty by 10%.

Aspect of the Monkey - Reduces the damage done to you while active by 5%.

Aspect of the Hawk - Increases the attack power bonus by 30%.

Unleashed Fury - Rank 5/5 - BM Staple Talent
Increases the damage done by your pets by 20%.

Improved Mend Pet - Rank 1/2 - With Spirit Bond = Less Mends and added healing from raid heals
Reduces the mana cost of your Mend Pet spell by 20% and gives the Mend Pet spell a 50% chance of cleansing 1 Curse, Disease, Magic or Poison effect from the pet each tick.

Ferocity - Rank 5/5 - BM Staple Talent
Increases the critical strike chance of your pet by 10%.

Spirit Bond - Rank 2/2 - Huge Pet survivability Talent
While your pet is active, you and your pet will regenerate 2% of total health every 10 sec., and increases healing done to you and your pet by 10%.

Intimidation - Rank 1/1 - BM Staple Talent
Command your pet to intimidate the target on the next successful melee attack, causing a high amount of threat and stunning the target for 3 sec.

Bestial Discipline - Rank 2/2 - BM Staple Talent
Increases the Focus regeneration of your pets by 100%.

Frenzy - Rank 4/5 - Same as post 3.0, since I am only 2/3 Cobra Strikes
Gives your pet a 60% chance to gain a 30% attack speed increase for 8 sec after dealing a critical strike.

Ferocious Inspiration - Rank 3/3 - BM Staple Talent
When your pet scores a critical hit, all party members have all damage increased by 3% for 10 sec.

Bestial Wrath - Rank 1/1 - BM Staple Talent
Send your pet into a rage causing 50% additional damage for 18 sec. While enraged, the beast does not feel pity or remorse or fear and it cannot be stopped unless killed.

Serpent's Swiftness - Rank 5/5 - BM Staple Talent
Increases ranged combat attack speed by 20% and your pet's melee attack speed by 20%.

Longevity - Rank 2/3 - For level 70, 2 pts is enough to be a DPS gain and free up 1 pt
Reduces the cooldown of your Bestial Wrath, Intimidation and Pet Special Abilities by 20%.

The Beast Within - Rank 1/1 - BM Staple Talent
When your pet is under the effects of Bestial Wrath, you also go into a rage causing 10% additional damage and reducing mana costs of all spells by 20% for 18 sec. While enraged, you do not feel pity or remorse or fear and you cannot be stopped unless killed.

Cobra Strikes - Rank 2/3 - 40% chance to proc & approx. 45% crit chance raid buffed
You have a 40% chance when you critically hit with Arcane Shot, Steady Shot or Kill Shot to cause your pet's next 2 special attacks to critically hit.

Kindred Spirits - Rank 5/5 - Huge DPS Gain
Increases your pet's damage by 20% and you and your pet's movement speed by 10% while your pet is active. This does not stack with other movement speed increasing effects.

Marksmanship (11 points)

Lethal Shots - Rank 5/5 - BM Staple Talent
Increases your critical strike chance with ranged weapons by 5%.

Careful Aim - Rank 3/3 - DPS Gain @ 100%
Increases your ranged attack power by an amount equal to 100% of your total Intellect.

Mortal Shots - Rank 2/5 - 2 extra pts for 12% crit bonus, since hit capped via gear (no Focus Aim)
Increases the critical strike damage bonus of your ranged abilities by 12%.

Go for the Throat - Rank ½ - ½ is all that is needed at the right crit to focus gen ratio… 35.5% crit unbuffed = plenty of focus
Your ranged critical hits cause your pet to generate 25 Focus.

NOTE: Kindred Spirits is an obvious DPS gain for a BM hunter as this talent scales well with Ferocity pets and Ferocity talent. IMO this talent should not be overlooked for a raiding hunter, since there really is not other talents to supplement the DPS loss.

For level 70 and having limited points to incorporate the new talent trees splitting Longevity and Cobra Strikes seemed as the best choice. 2/3 Longevity is enough of a reduction to allow 1-2 extra BWs per fight, but going 3/3 will take a point out of Cobra Strikes. IMO 3/3 Cobra Strikes is optimal, but since I am limited on talent points at 70 I am opting for 2/3 for a 40% chance to proc. This better than skipping Cobra Strikes all together.

Maxing Careful Aim is a point-for-point DPS gain overall. Mortal Shots is only going effect our Steady Shots (and Arcane Shots if worked into the rotation), so I dropped my 2 floating points in MS for at least a 12% crit bonus along with my Meta.

IMO 1 point is all that is needed in GFTT to sustain adequate focus gen to maintain pet specials consistently. I can only see going 2/2 GFTT if a hunter's crit is under 28% or so.

Invigoration is not a major concern for a level 70 raiding build, since A.) mana pools are much smaller atm and B.) raid replenishment is enough to sustain DPS before switching to AotV. These 2 points are better used else where, i.e. 2/3 Longevity.

Would have typed it up myself, but he did a nice job. Source [Hunter] WotLK Talents & Abilities Discussion - Page 164 - Elitist Jerks

[sylesal]

Thanks a lot , helped me choose the right spec for my newbie hunter.