[Rogue] Hit rating and you

[Razon]

lot of rogues concern themselves way too much with their level of hit rating. I'm going to try and consolidate all the information I have about it in this post.

Contrary to popular belief, there is no "magic" number for hit rating. There is an absolute minimum, and "cap". Well, really there are two caps, but I'll go into that later.

The hit caps are as follows (assuming 5/5 precision):

Special attacks: 64
Auto-attacks: 363

Therefore, the minimum amount of hit for a raiding rogue is 64, which as you probably know, is so easy to get it's barely worth mentioning.
Between 64 and the cap, hit rating is simply another linearly increasing stat.

But if hit rating is not important, why gem it over anything else?

Hit, while not the be-all-and-end-all of rogue dps, is the highest "bang for your buck" stat out there. Meaning that 1 point of hit rating will give more overall dps than 1 point of agility/ap/younameit. Therefore, a +8 hit gem in a socket will outweigh +8 agi (exluding socket bonuses).

Beyond the 2 purple gems required for your meta, every socket where the bonus is shitty should contain a yellow, hit rating gem. I'll leave the determination of worthy socket bonuses for another day.

Is there a point at which I should stop gemming for hit?

Yes, at the cap. However, as I touched upon before, there are two caps. The hard cap at 363, and a soft cap at approximately 296. This soft cap is determined by subtracting the effects of Spicy Hot Talbuk (the food of choice) and Improved Faerie Fire from the hard cap.

Since we generally have a raiding moonkin, I personally would be inclined to start substituting +hit gems for +hit/+agi at around this soft cap. But you may like to sub items in and out depending on the moonkin attendance.


Conclusion:

Hit is cool. Hit is not important. Never take an item just because you believe you "need" the hit rating. If an item is a dps upgrade, wear it.


i myself did not write this but a guildie wrote this and we did some testing together, i do not expect any rep since i did not write this guide.

[Clueless_noob]

gave +rep because i found it useful (leveling a rogue and didn't know about the food)

[Xhaf]

Add some colors and it will be easier to read

[Karbeck]

This is PvE only. For PvP, the hit rating softcap is high 70s (78?).

[Dignox]

in pvp hit cap is 78, and in pve with precision it is 313 for any hyjal/bt rogue, and for gods sake, HIT IS VERY IMPORTANT

[valiliv]

in pvp hit cap is 78, and in pve with precision it is 313 for any hyjal/bt rogue, and for gods sake, HIT IS VERY IMPORTANT

so it's 313 for MH/BT rogues, but something else for SSC/TK rogues? how about SWP rogues?

also, where is this 313 coming from at all.. as OP mentioned it's 363 or 296 with max buffs

[really2891]

Very usefull information for my Rogue that's currently level 67. Thanks!

[tomit12]

Hit is fantastic...for about 2 more months, until it gets rolled into the same stat with haste and whatnot.

For anyone that is looking to really learn about the stats and math behind it for their class, just go here:

Class Mechanics - Elitist Jerks

[flaicher]

in pvp hit cap is 78, and in pve with precision it is 313 for any hyjal/bt rogue, and for gods sake, HIT IS VERY IMPORTANT

Huh? I tried Gurtogg Bloodboil with more hit than I usually use.. 340 hit rating.
~1% of my attacks missed.
That Elitishjerks' spreadsheet ftw when comparing gear if you can't decide by yourself ^^

[DeNiMuLiC]

Wrong Wrong wrong.

There is no PvP hit cap.
Hit cap on specials is 78. THAT is the soft-cap.
Overall Hit cap on dual weilding melee classes is 363(ish)

Hit rating isn't important. Your DPS output from the Spreadsheet is.

[terradragon]

Could you link me some good armor for raids? One with the balanced hit rating and dps

[xerotsuda]

Copied info from Elitist Jerks Rogue PVE DPS Thread. Fail.

[Kauppaneuvos]

COPY PASTEEEEEEEE
Every ****ing guide with "raiding" "classguide" or something is ripoff from elitistjerk or similar site

[Razon]

For those who said this is a copy paste, feel free to PM me for a original link my guild forums, if not dont say it is a Copy and paste without providing a link, i did also state i wanted NO rep from this.