Wow gold guide while leveling! Part 2

[Jack Bauer]

IGNORE THE COLOR/BLUE STUFF IT DIDN'T WORK =(

WARNING WALL OF TEXT!!!A

Now that youre level 40, it should be very easy to powerlevel your new profession to a certain point. Do everything possible to farm your own mats while leveling, it will save you a ton of money. This is important because you need your money
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SCHEMATICS, PLANS, FORMULAS, RECIPES, ETC!!! These are what separate you from all of the other people taking up crafting professions. I see twenty new threads every day asking how do you make money in leatherworking or whatever, and people usually reply you dont take herbalism its a goldmine. Im going to let you in on a little secret.
It takes hard work and a LOT of time and gold to make money in crafting!
You will NOT be rich from a crafting profession just by learning what the trainers provide! You have to spend gold on schematics/formulas/plans/etc to make the stuff that people really want to buy. Im not saying that every plan on the AH is going to be a moneymaker, but the ones that ARE moneymakers youre going to have to pony up the money[COLOR=blue ! important][COLOR=blue ! important][/color]. Dont bother farming for them its a waste of effort just pay a reasonable amount for it on the AH.[/color]
Guess what? Youve just put yourself above probably 75% of the other crafters out there! Why? Because 75% of WoW players either dont have the gold to buy plans, or they refuse to spend money on them because people price gouge on the AH. Now instead of competing with 1000 engineers, you are competing with 250 of themand out of that 250 there will be quite a few that arent as aggressive in making money like you, you sly dog!
Its important to remember that crafting professions are a long term improvement . [COLOR=blue ! important][COLOR=blue ! important][/color] Unlike gathering, you actually have to spend money for crafting professions to make money. On my server sniper scope schematics go for 100 gold. 100 gold is a ton of money, but as soon as you pay it off (you can make 2-3 gold profit off of each scope), youve got another weapon in your arsenal of moneymaking![/color]
The questions I get asked all the damn time (people even create alts on Malygos to bug me during my Molten Core run lol) is what items sell for a profit, how much do you sell them for, etc. And the answer is find out for yourself. Make a spreadsheet or list of everything you know how to make. Then for each item list out how much RAW material it takes to make that item. What do I mean by raw material? Its the total amount of uncrafted items you need to eventually make the item. For instance:
Hi Impact Bombs x 8 = Mithril Bar x16 + Solid Stone x16 + Mageweave x4
Notice that Hi Impact Bombs really take Mithril Casings, Solid Blasting Powder, and Unstable Triggersbut the RAW material list is as stated aboveget it?
Ok now that you have that for every item you can make, figure out the UNIT PRICE for each raw material. UNIT PRICE is how much it costs if you buy one Mithril Bar on the AH. Dont look at the prices for just one Mithril Bar though look at how much a stack costs and divide by 20.
Got that? Great! Next step is to find out how much you can sell each item for. Do a search on the AH to see what the going prices areit might take you a few days to get an accurate number due to the Retard Factor of people putting up items for ridiculously low or high prices. If the items just dont show up on the AH, determine if anyone would actually *buy* the item first, and if you think they would just take a guess of how much you could sell it for.
You know what the final step is right? I sure hope so. You know how much it costs to make the item, you know how much you can sell the item fordo some simple subtraction to see if you can make a PROFIT off of your items! You will be surprised how many items will make a profit. The obvious choices are items needed for quests, items that need to be purchased several times (such as armor kits, sharpening stones, scopes, potions, etc), and blue items.
The two top comments I get from this section are:
Dragon, you really expect me to make a spreadsheet of all my crafted items, with materials, and costs of mats etc etc? that seems like a lot of work cant you just tell me which ones sell best?
Get out of my forum! If you cant do the legwork and put the effort into itgo pick flowers and collect rocks.
Dragon, why do I have to make a spreadsheet based on cost of mats in the AH? I can easily go farm my mats and make 100% profit!
Ah HA! This is the statement that is the death of crafters everywhere. Im going to make the next statement in all caps not because Im angry, but because I want it to stick out so much you cant help but read it and remember it:
***IF YOU CANNOT BUY THE MATS ON THE AUCTION HOUSE, CRAFT YOUR ITEM, AND SELL THAT ITEM FOR A PROFIT DO NOT MAKE IT!***
Seems so simple yet time after time again people will say things like yeah of course you arent going to make money if you buy your mats on the AH you have to farm the materials. Well, if the materials are worth more than the finished product, why would you bother making it? Just sell the materials for a larger profit! The purpose of the spreadsheet is to help you identify what items you can make a profit on.
The next logical step is to realize that if you can buy the mats on the AH and still make a profit, why would you spend all that time farming materials? In the time it takes you to farm the mats to make one item, you could buy the mats to make 10 items.
You should be making more than enough money to pay for new skills, updated armor and weapons, repair costs, stupid trinkets (I love my Orb of Deception!) etc. But keep in mind you are working towards two things when you hit lvl 60:
1. Buying your epic mount, which is going to cost you 900 gold
2. Having nearly all of the schematics/plans/etc for your crafting profession, and being able to make a steady income[COLOR=blue ! important][COLOR=blue ! important][/color] off of it.
3. Having at least 100 gold (preferably more) saved to help you level up your 2nd crafting profession [/color]
Do not bother with Phase Three until you have the above three items complete. Patience is the keyif you rush into this stuff you will have more expenses than you do income.
Phase Three Level 60 Farming is for suckers
Ok so youre sitting pretty at level 60, congratulations! Youve got your epic mount, youve completely owned your crafting profession, and you got your nest egg of gold. And your entire time spent in WoW now consists of you either in a high-end instance or sitting in Ironforge trying to get a raid group together. And that means youre not running around gathering! Plus by now youve probably said to yourself Man, I dont even need to farm mats anymoreI can buy them off of the AH and still make a sweet profit! Welcome to Phase Three
Now Phase Three is 100% optional. Some of the gathering professions are useful in high-end instances. With mining you can get Dark Iron Ore and Blood of the Mountain, which both sell well AND help you raise your reputation with the Thorium Brotherhood. With Skinning (plus an enchant and a finkles skinner) you can skin Corehounds in Molten Core and The Beast in UBRS. Both have their uses for sure. But this guide is about how I made moneyand since I HATE FARMING (farming is for suckers!) I dropped my gathering profession and picked up a 2nd crafting profession (in my case enchanting).
You level the 2nd crafting profession the same way you did the first, with the exception that you dont have a gathering profession to assist you in the leveling process. So that means youll be buying your materials from the AH (yeah you could make alts or whateverI just dont like making alts). The key is to level as cheaply as possible until you can get to the point where you can make a profit (or even break even) on the things you create as you level up. Again, same thing as the first crafting professionbuy up all the patterns/plans/etc that look like you could make a profit with, make a spreadsheet, etc etc. This will be a slower process than the first crafting profession, but you already have your epic mount, and youre hopefully getting good weapons and armor from instance runsso theres really no rush anyway.
Theres one more thing you can do to make some extreme money, but keep in mind that everything requires an investment of time and moneyand this will require a lot of both. There are lots of faction based patterns/plans/etc recently implemented in WoW. Some of them are as simple as killing tons (and I mean thousands) of Furbolgs until you are honored/revered with the Timbermaw Furbolgs, some as daunting as turning in thousands of Dark Iron Ores to the Thorium Brotherhood. Were talking a couple thousand gold worth of investment right there if you dont mine it yourself. 99.9% of the players in this game wouldnt touch this with a 10 foot pole, simply because they either dont want to waste their energy to achieve this level (which is totally understandable you have to be crazy to do this), or they dont understand the benefit of knowing how to make these epic items. Its basic logic thoughlets say you invest[COLOR=blue ! important][COLOR=blue ! important][/color] 2000 gold to become revered with the Thorium Brotherhood. You learn how to make the revered epic items. Congratulations youre probably one of the .01% of the people on your server than can make them. And you know what? 99.9% of the people on the server want those items because theyre some of the best gear/weapons in the game! Theres one guy on my server that makes weapons for 4000-5000g each. It doesnt take a math genius to see that the return on investment [COLOR=blue ! important][COLOR=blue ! important][/color][/color]can be very lucrative! Some of you will say Oooh but Gen how in the hell am I supposed to get 2000g to invest in this? Well, you could either plan ahead and mine the dark iron ore yourself (for Thorium Brotherhood, for the others anyone can do it), or do what I did and sell what you can sell like a madman and save save save! Others will say Yeah but Gen all of those high end materials come from Molten Core and they cost thousands of gold to buy the mats! This is true, but as I said before this is the upper echelon of making money, and it takes big money to make bigger money.[COLOR=blue ! important][COLOR=blue ! important][/color][/color] You dont go to Las Vegas with 20 bucks and expect to win thousands of dollars do you?[/color]
Phase Four Any Level Oh you crafty bastard!
So this isnt really a fourth phase, its more of a bonus chapter of things I did/do to make money. Theres no real rhyme or reason to it, its just the extra things Ive done along the way that arent really profession related. I never mentioned them in my first guide because A) I wanted to keep it legit, these things arent anything you can do to depend on an incomebut if they happen look out! And B) Im still making money on several of these so I didnt want to spill the beans just yet lol! I wont go into super detail here because I want you to use your brainnot to figure out exactly what I do, but to figure out things I havent even thought of!
Oh Im a poor guy! On rare occasion you will see someone selling an item in the trade channel. If its something you know is a hot seller, msg them and ask the price. Sometimes they will flat out be stupid and give you a low price. Buy it, wait one day, and put it on the AH for what its really worth. If they reply with a price thats pretty much what its worth, say oh gee, I can only afford *insert low number here* I doubt youd sell it for that. Oh well thank you I appreciated it. You will be surprised how many times they will sell it for that amount or close to it. Ive done that at least 20 times with sniper scope schematics alone! Am I proud of myself for doing it? No, I am not. Am I happy to have the extra gold? Hell yes!
Wholesale Materials If you find yourself crafting the same items over and over, youll start to pick up a trend of certain materials that you use in large quantities. The best thing to do is to buy them in bulk for a cheaper unit price. Sure, youre eating more money up front, but your profit margin[COLOR=blue ! important][COLOR=blue ! important][COLOR=blue ! important][/color][/color][/color] will be way larger (what, you werent going to pass those savings onto your customers were you?!?!) Theres several ways to do it, but my two favorites are the AH and gold farmers. On the AH you might see 100 stacks of heavy leather, all with 2g buyout, with a 1g min bid. Bid them all at min bid. Chances are youll win a percentage of them at half of what you would normally pay! For gold farmers, if they can understand you (LOL), strike up a deal with them to COD the materials to you for a reduced cost. I have many farmers constantly working for me!
WTF is that??? troll the AH for items people auction, and browse thottbot and allakhazam theres tons of items that you can buy, do something with, and resell for a huge profit. I personally know of a few items that I can make 50 gold + profit on every time, and a buddy of mine has found another completely unrelated item that does about the same. What are they? Not telling!!! But do the research and youll find several little nuggets of moneymaking!
Hey hey! I got blah blah on the AH! Im not condoning spamming like a fool, but a well crafted funny msg every 10 min or so about something SPECIAL youve put on the AH will really help sell your product! Do not do this for everyday junk like light leather and copper bars this is something you use for rare/epic items or things that are in HIGH demand. Be witty and funny and people wont be as annoyed by you. Hell, ask people in Malygos, I spam stuff and say pst the gnome in the wedding dress! cuz yeah I wear one and a Goblin Rocket Helmet and two Cookies Tenderizers and Im a male gnome you got a problem with that?!
I think thats about all Ive got for version 2.0 well let this thing run 31 pages and break, just in time for version 3.0. Hopefully by that time Ive learned new ways to make money [COLOR=blue ! important][COLOR=blue ! important][/color] for you guys! [/color]
Good luck and stay wealthy!

[Roller]

to much color and it looks like a freaking copy + past

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wtf man?

[Jack Bauer]

I also have my own blog hence the "Dragon u have abs we could wash our clothes on" on first part. This was also on my blog

[Roller]

link & screenshot of you in admin configuration on that blog and ill rep you again.!

and lol u removed that part i quoted :/

[shaman1234]

all those colors and that wall of text gave me a seizure

[anazei]

sorry, but FAIL how could anyone read that?

[Ginchy]

Don't read this if you're prone to seizures

[Stephen Colbert]

Copy+Paste x Wall of Text / Rainbow paragraphs= Deformed babies growing out of my ears.

[Two Sheds]

mmmmmm taste so good copy pasta my favorite
The Real Guide

Good job coloring the text though....