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    [Rogue] A Guide to Gemming and Enchanting Gear for PvE

    Thanks to Akrios for the guide =)

    A Guide to Gemming and Enchanting Gear for PvE The following is a basic guide to both gemming and enchanting your gear for the highest possible PvE dps. A PvP gemming guide will follow shortly. Keep in mind that all epic gems are available on Sunwell Island at the cost of 15 badges of justice, from bosses in Hyjal, Black Temple, and Sunwell Plataeu, and from your local auction house for a few hundred gold.

    Meta Gem
    Relentless Earthstorm Diamond
    +12 agility & 3% critical strike damage. Require 2 red gems, 2 blue gems, 2 yellow gems.
    (Note - having an orange gem will count as having 1 yellow gem and 1 red gem. The same is true of purple and green gems.)
    This is the best choice for any PvE situation. It provides the highest damage output. The meta that provides haste suffers from a hidden cooldown of 40 seconds and is inferior to this meta in every way.

    Combat spec gem selection:
    Red Sockets
    rare: 4 agility / 4 hit - Glinting noble topaz
    epic: 5 agility / 5 hit - Glinting Pyrestone
    Yellow Sockets
    rare: 8 hit - Rigid Dawnstone
    epic: 10 hit - Rigid Lionseye
    Blue Sockets
    rare: 4 agility / 6 stamina - Shifting Nightseye
    epic: 5 agility / 7 stamina - Shifting Shadowsong Amethyst

    Mutilate gem selection:
    Red Sockets
    rare: 8 agility - Delicate Living Ruby
    epic: 10 agility - Delicate Crimson Spinel
    Yellow Sockets
    rare: 4 agility / 4 hit - Glinting noble topaz
    epic: 5 agility / 5 hit - Glinting Pyrestone
    Blue Sockets

    rare: 4 agility / 6 stamina - Shifting Nightseye
    epic: 5 agility / 7 stamina - Shifting Shadowsong Amethyst

    Notes:
    Buffs such as Blessing of Kings are what make agility superior to attack power.
    Unless the socket bonus is stamina, it’s best to gem for socket bonuses.
    You should not use more than 2 blue gems if you are maximizing dps. These are only being used in order to satisfy a meta requirement. After this point gem 10 hit, 5 agility / 5 hit, or 10 agility depending on how close you are to hit cap, or 10 agility if you are mutilate.
    When gemming, take note of hit cap to ensure you are not wasting statistics. Past a certain amount of hit, you will not gain anything.
    Hit Cap for raid bosses:
    0/5 precision: 442
    5/5 precision: 363
    Enchanting Gear
    The following are the highest dps enchants available for PvE
    Mainhand Weapon:
    Executioner - Permanently enchant a Melee Weapon to occasionally ignore 840 of your enemy’s armor. Requires a level 60 or higher item.
    or
    Mongoose - Permanently enchant a Melee Weapon to occasionally increase Agility by 120 and attack speed slightly.
    (situationally)
    This is somewhat of a subject of debate. The safe answer is going double mongoose. Executioner does become superior to mongoose as a mainhand enchant deep into endgame raiding (Black Temple, Sunwell), especially for rogues with a lot of armor penetration. It also scales better with gear. It’s important to remember that both are extremely comparable. Mutilate should always use double mongoose.
    OH Weapon: Enchant Weapon:
    Mongoose
    Head Enchant:
    Glyph of Ferocity - 34 attack power, 16 hit rating
    *Requires revered with Cenarion Expedition
    Shoulder Enchant:

    Greater Inscription of Vengeance (Aldor exalted) - 30 attack power, 10 critical strike rating
    Greater Inscription of the Blade (Scryer exalted) - 20 attack power, 15 critical strike rating
    Might of the Scourge (Naxxramas) - 26 attack power, 14 critical strike rating
    Might of the scourge is superior to all other enchants if one has access to it.
    Back Enchant:
    Enchant Cloak - Greater Agility - 12 agility
    Chest Enchant:
    Enchant Chest - Exceptional Stats - +6 to all stats
    Wrist Enchant:
    Enchant Bracer - Assualt - 24 attack power
    Hand Enchant:
    Enchant Gloves - Superior Agility - 15 agility
    Leg Enchant:
    Nethercobra Leg Armor - 50 attack power, 12 critical strike rating
    Boot Enchant:
    Enchant Boots - Dexterity - 12 agility
    Ring Enchant:
    Enchant Ring - Stats - +4 to all stats
    Enchant Ring - Striking (superior for daggers) - +2 physical damage
    These enchants are available only to enchanters.



    And last, but not least, please if you say +Rep, don't forget to actually give it, i am trying to work out my contributor status.
    -Rogues Do It From Behind-

    [Rogue] A Guide to Gemming and Enchanting Gear for PvE
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    I just made a rogue and was looking for something like this, +rep.

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    I solely play a rogue and have for quite a bit of time. This guide is pretty accurate, however I have to mention a couple flaws / portions I am weary with.

    First off - You do not ALWAYS gem for the socket bonus. Many items should have them completely ignored. For example - the belt of deep shadow has 2 blue sockets with a socket bonus of 3 agility. According to your guide it says that I should pop in 2 shifting nightseye (shadowsong amethyst). However, any raiding rogue will socket that with 2x yellow hit gems. As you begin raiding the belt is fantastic, and hit raiting is often the best choice until you begin to really sacrifice dps in order to obtain it. Had you used shifting nightseye you would have 8agility 12 stamina (10agil 14stam) with 3 extra agility for the socket bonus.

    In PvE the stamina isnt really necessary in most fights. For the fights that do require you to have a bit more stamina, you should just slap on some pvp gear and call it good.

    If you have any concerns as to what to socket in your items check out this rogue dps spreadsheet and plug in your gear. It will list the optimal gemming that should be placed into it. It does not take hit cap into effect.

    Word of the wise - Do not gimp all your stats in order to reach 363 hit as it isnt worth it.

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    STOP COPYING AND PASTING FROM ROGUEROGUE.COM! Even if you give credit, it is still a desperate attempt at getting rep.

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    da_bizkit's Avatar Elite User
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    Originally Posted by ISeeWhatUDid View Post
    STOP COPYING AND PASTING FROM ROGUEROGUE.COM! Even if you give credit, it is still a desperate attempt at getting rep.
    STOP BEING A ****ING LEECHER ! Most of the guides in here are taken from somewhere, if the users donesn't know the things - they are useful.
    -Rogues Do It From Behind-

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    useful-ish ill try to remember to give rep tomarow

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    nice, tnx. cant rep ya sry

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    Most of the guilds come from a other sites but maby people on mmowned dont know about it thats why people post guides or other things to help people out so quit the flaming about the copy and paste!

    Tipsy
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    I have to disagree with you in two things:

    As a rogue who theory crafts now already for years, I definately will know some things more than others. Let's start..

    You said that Executioner becomes the top tier in the endgame raiding such as the Black Temple and Sunwell are, it is not true, because dual mongoose is just better.

    Another problem on this copied guide is the enchant on your feet. I simply laugh at every single idiot who doesn't enchant Cat's Swiftness. Nearly every single encounter requires movement, so the less time you take to get to your next target, the more damage you will deal to it.

    Another problem is your gemming. As you get past through the Eredar Twins, you will be nearly hitcapped for sure, so you won't need that much hit anymore. This allows you to socket pure Agility, it's still the best choice for combat rogues, if you have heard something of the AEP system yet

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