Success stories???

[SpiceyHotSauce]

Do you have a success story? As far as making money off wow or buy a brand new bad ass computer off the money you made from wow.

[Smitten]

In WotLK, Cataclysm and early MoP - I sold PvP and PvE carries, as well as levelling and selling gold.

Saving all that up, I've made enough to move myself and my fiancee to the US and put down about 50% of a house for the mortgage.

I worked about 6 days a week, 5-6 hours a day after my real job and made about $45,000 over about 5 years - about $20,000 of which was from botting gold on 14 different realms. I nearly $7,000 of that was spent on business expenses such as computers, electricity and internet connections.

The work was monitoring bots which I left running 16-18 hours a day. Back then you could actually do that and not get banned too often if you played it smart.

1-2 hours a night of PvE raid carries of which were mostly raid clears for mounts - Invincible, Mim's Head, Pureblood Firehawk, Lifebinder, Dragonslayer titles, etc.

PvP carries were mainly Gladiator / 2200 carries which were the most profitable, since there were less people to split the money between. There was also some RBG work in there.

Sadly, I'm broke now since it's all been spent.

But if you want to get into the market - here's my advice.

Do your research and do it well. You'll need start up capital. Expect bot and mule accounts to get banned. If you make over a certain amount (depending on your country) - you'll need to pay taxes on it. You'll want to know who's selling gold on what realms and for how much, how much people pay for gold on each realm, and in terms of carries - how many you can sell a week to make it worth the effort.

If you have any questions, just PM me and I'll be happy to answer any questions and help you out.

[markons]

Tbh i only selling my gold for gamecards ( gifts ) i have about 3mill gold and tbh in not sure how much is that speaking in $$$

[SpiceyHotSauce]

Why would you have to pay taxes on the gold you sell? it's it illegal anyways? Also what if you wanted to make like 2k a month is that possible?

[Smitten]

It's not illegal to sell gold at all.

There's no law against it.

It's considered a secondary (or primary) income over a certain threshold, and therefore taxable.

And yes it's possible. You're just going to have to compete for bot space on all the other high population realms with a number of bots running a number of efficient operations at once.

Diversify your markets. Gathering professions. Battle pets. Transmog gear. Profession kits.

[Thaadevil]

Since my whole army got shut down today I'll tell you my story and you'll have to judge if it were success or a fail.

It all started back in TBC I were a lazy ****er, I were only at school when I really were forced to, Sat home, Mom didn't give me any money because of this
So one day I were walking around in Shadowmoon Valley and I saw this bunch of players running around, just killings mobs, and I watched them do it for atleast 6 hours nonstop
So I went on and searched then found out there were ways to make money with this, by just running a simple bot - Seems easy right?! So I threw up 2 bots
After that the WOTLK expansion came out, so I figured out well man, if I made profit with 2 bots then guess how much I would make with 4 Bots?! So I bought 4 accounts, started botting on 4 accounts
I botted Saronite and shuffled it whole WOTLK, sat at goldcap, Cataclysm came out and I bought 8 new accounts with the gold, All of the accounts were gathering a shitload and I had a guild of people just buying my shit all days but then something sad happend.. I got a girlfriend... I stopped botting because I didn't have time for it all and it felt like I could live without it, so I sold all my gold and got around 300€
Said and done, Bought weed and alcohol for everything(Best summer in my life easy) But then MoP came out, I saw the gold price rise skyhigh! From 0.2€ to 0.6€ (To chinese) So I took my 12 Accounts and started doing gathering soon enough I found it the fastest way to get banned! (Yayforme) So I started doing other stuff, Like pickpocketing - Earned around 90k in 2 days this way, sold it all and bought a shitload of accounts(Having around 50 accounts this time) and then Sniffinpickles told me about a way, a way that were unique - Something I never heard before, So I went trying it - Instance farming with twinks, I did this and I had enough money to feel like a god it felt like, Until today 30/7-13 Where blizzard decided to put down my botting carrieer, Putting an IP ban on me, banning every account ever logged into from my PC, When I appeal I get the answer "We don't want you in our game" So today I'm sitting at a loss of around 250€, They Deleted my guilds, Disbanned my Bank items, banned my friends accounts (That been logged into from my PC) and I don't see it worth it anymore. Therefore I'm going to **** with blizzard like they ****ed with me, Took my money, therefore I'm taking their money as I know a way of 100% safe RaF (I known this way since WOTLK) and it haven't gotten removed once.
So here I am, earned around 1000€ thru the years, Never worked in my entire life, I saw this as a hobby - never a work, Got my main accounts banned with Vanilla Grand Marshal, Most famouse twinks, 57-0 Solo queue 2s, big repuation, 14k Achivements, But I were aware of what I were betting and I call it worth. As of now I'm not getting into botting anymore, I'm going to sell RaF gametime instead.

So there's my story and today is the end of it, I hope you understood what I wrote since English is not my first language.

[SpiceyHotSauce]

Why did you get banned/??? was the instance farming faultie? do you run the bots to long/??/

[SpiceyHotSauce]

Also how id RAF not 100% safe anyways????? I have been Rafed twice and nothing has ever happend to be.

[Thaadevil]

Why did you get banned/??? was the instance farming faultie? do you run the bots to long/??/

They closed all my b.nets for 3rd software, Shattered Halls&Random Instace mostly, 10 hours per day only.

[SpiceyHotSauce]

Maybe that was the problem??? I was told only bot for 5-8

[Thaadevil]

Maybe that was the problem??? I was told only bot for 5-8

Nah, the problem were too many logins from my IP lol, I even botted up to 18 hours per day without problems

[SpiceyHotSauce]

Damn bro should have used a proxy

[Fisher]

Hm I ran into a company of botters back in Cata, they were running a lot of accounts (100 or something). I took it as business, which it was, and covered everything I could basically. This means:

- Automated everything that could be automated
- Added <random> to schedulers
- Connected all wow chats to a single IRC channel, for easy monitoring
- Ran them into pvp, so they appear "human" instead of farming 24/7
- You get it


With just that, productivity increased sick. Thing about botting is, you have to go big and treat it as business. Accounts hold no emotional value, just tools to make money. You buy an account, you run it crazy till it makes the money you invested in it, everything after that is profit. Making big botting operations is never one-man-army type of thing, so include some friends. Invest together, share profit.

Back in Cata it wasn't so hard to make money off of this. Not many people doing the right thing, MANY people using ah bots with default settings and no limit, so you could do whatever you wanted. That and all the dupes around made it fun. I remember a week where we had 5 days to level 4 professions (not gathering) per account across 14 accounts. That was a lot of red bull and chips lol.

But anyways, it became too much in MOP where everything was failing, since it just came out, and everyone was running crazy stuff one day, even crazier the next, bans became daily issue so I quit, it turned into high investment low profit thing, not monetary, but you had to babysit them a lot, prevent HB from updating as new update was malfunctioning and similar. It was hard setting that many accounts up to do something new, as by the time you test new scripts and set them up everywhere, they become obsolete and you gotta do everything all over again. Big hassle.

But man back then I was jacked up. I knew everyone and everything about everything, except what our scripts did (never cared, never was good with numbers). I was monitoring kabillion forums, talking to devs, some other heavy botters, Blizzard even lol. That's the thing about this business, you gotta stay up to date with everything there is. A low rated, forgotten plugin on some godforsaken forum might be exactly what you want. And it never stops. When we had everything running at 100%, I still had to keep track of everything, crunch some numbers (hell, scripts did that), upgrade it and so on. It's hell until you set it up to run, but then it might be a breeze for a while, where you sit, watch them make money and think how could you get them to make even more money. For a while anyway =)

Keep in mind: no such thing as perfect system, always think is it worth it, and once you think you have everything working 1) you are wrong 2) take it one step further. Just my 2c anyways

Peace!

[SpiceyHotSauce]

Thanks man ^^