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    Scammed by Shockingcel who is a donator on this site, please help

    Hi everyone,

    I recently sold 999,999gold, 99s and 99c to a person who is a donator to this site. His Skype is called Shockingcel and I talked to him on skype during the transaction. He used fake Paypal accounts and is now in the process of recalled the $1000 that he paid me. Please do not deal with him, he is not to be trusted and I have learned a lesson.

    Does anyone know any way that I can plead my case. I have the entire skype dialogue of the transaction and I recorded our conversation on my iphone. He clearly says and types that he received my goods and that he gave my money from Paypal accounts. He type the names of the account holders and everything.

    His real name is Jim Abbas and he is from Canada and is about 32.

    Any suggestions?

    Thanks,

    P.S. He also has priveliges on this site to remove my original posts and has deleted my originals, so he will probably delete this too.

    PayPal balance: -£415.58 GBP

    Scammed by Shockingcel who is a donator on this site, please help
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    He also has priveliges on this site to remove my original posts and has deleted my originals, so he will probably delete this too. <- uhm no he doesnt..

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    He also has priveliges on this site to remove my original posts and has deleted my originals, so he will probably delete this too. <- uhm no he doesnt..
    Link us the trade section thread and show the evidence. If you can't do that, then we cant help you.

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    Pics for proof? #KindaNeeded.

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    Originally Posted by Prayfordusk View Post
    Pics for proof? #KindaNeeded.
    [26/06/2013 18:37:30] Andrew Carson: Hi Shockingcel, I'd like to add you as a contact. Andrew Carson Im the guy selling the gold cap on EU servers from Ownedcore
    [26/06/2013 19:11:40] *** Call to Shockingcel, no answer. ***
    [26/06/2013 19:12:10] *** Call to Shockingcel, no answer. ***
    [26/06/2013 19:12:34] Andrew Carson: Hi Shockingcel, I'd like to add you as a contact. Andrew Carson im the guy from owned core
    [26/06/2013 19:30:39] *** Shockingcel has shared contact details with Andrew Carson. ***
    [26/06/2013 19:38:58] *** Call to Shockingcel, no answer. ***
    [26/06/2013 19:39:00] Shockingcel: yo
    [26/06/2013 19:39:04] Andrew Carson: hi mate
    [26/06/2013 19:39:08] Shockingcel: i cant talk atm ill be back from work
    [26/06/2013 19:39:09] Shockingcel: in 7 hours
    [26/06/2013 19:39:12] Andrew Carson: hmmmm
    [26/06/2013 19:39:14] Shockingcel: or 8 hours
    [26/06/2013 19:39:19] Andrew Carson: im in UK
    [26/06/2013 19:39:29] Shockingcel: hmm when do you wake up?
    [26/06/2013 19:39:39] Andrew Carson: will be like 330 in the morning and im workijng tomrrow :/
    [26/06/2013 19:39:45] Shockingcel: ah shit
    [26/06/2013 19:39:54] Andrew Carson: ill be home from work at about 1330 uk
    [26/06/2013 19:40:01] Andrew Carson: which is about um
    [26/06/2013 19:40:06] Andrew Carson: are you 6 hours behind?
    [26/06/2013 19:40:10] Shockingcel: its 2:40 pm right now
    [26/06/2013 19:40:12] Shockingcel: 14;40
    [26/06/2013 19:40:15] Andrew Carson: its 740 now here
    [26/06/2013 19:40:21] Shockingcel: so 5 hours behind
    [26/06/2013 19:40:21] Andrew Carson: 5 hours then
    [26/06/2013 19:40:24] Andrew Carson: so um
    [26/06/2013 19:40:32] Andrew Carson: ill be home at about 1pm tomorrow
    [26/06/2013 19:40:39] Andrew Carson: -5 hours is 8am there
    [26/06/2013 19:40:43] Shockingcel: okay
    [26/06/2013 19:40:46] Shockingcel: thats fine
    [26/06/2013 19:40:51] Shockingcel: ill be on at 8 - like 3 pm
    [26/06/2013 19:41:19] Andrew Carson: ok brilliant im from from 1pm (here) fro res tof day tomorrow
    [26/06/2013 19:41:27] Andrew Carson: so $1000 for 1 mil gold
    [26/06/2013 19:41:33] Andrew Carson: what realm you want it on?
    [26/06/2013 19:41:40] Shockingcel: kazzak eu horde
    [26/06/2013 19:41:47] Andrew Carson: ok um
    [26/06/2013 19:41:56] Shockingcel: let me talk with my brother first
    [26/06/2013 19:42:02] Shockingcel: hes the 1 who wants it,
    [26/06/2013 19:42:10] Andrew Carson: do you know if i can go from alliance to horde with a guild transfer?
    [26/06/2013 19:42:11] Shockingcel: i might just leave it on the realm its on
    [26/06/2013 19:42:34] Shockingcel: no idea, just leave it on the same server its on, im sure the transfer wont be a problem for my brother
    [26/06/2013 19:42:37] Shockingcel: after spending $1000 lol
    [26/06/2013 19:42:43] Andrew Carson: ok no worries then lol
    [26/06/2013 19:42:46] Andrew Carson: deal is done
    [26/06/2013 19:43:19] Andrew Carson: well ill speak/ring you tomorrow when i get home then ok?
    [26/06/2013 19:43:30] Andrew Carson: about 8am -9 am your time
    [26/06/2013 19:43:33] Shockingcel: yeah
    [26/06/2013 19:43:45] Andrew Carson: ok mate thanks and speak soon
    [26/06/2013 20:48:00] Shockingcel: hey i think we can do the deal now
    [26/06/2013 20:48:06] Shockingcel: is it possible to do it in incriments tho?
    [13:40:38] Andrew Carson: hi you about mate?
    [13:43:50] *** Call to Shockingcel, no answer. ***
    [13:54:09] Andrew Carson: hi you there? if you dont want to go ahead with it, it's ok , but please just tell me. Thanks
    [14:23:22] Shockingcel: hey
    [14:23:25] Shockingcel: sorry i was sleeping
    [14:23:27] Shockingcel: just woke up
    [14:23:41] Andrew Carson: ok mate giime 10 mins ok
    [14:23:45] Andrew Carson: just on phone
    [14:23:48] Andrew Carson: sorry
    [14:25:41] Shockingcel: my friend from ownedcore
    [14:25:44] Shockingcel: sais your a scammer L/
    [14:25:48] Shockingcel: :/
    [14:25:54] Shockingcel: im not sure if we can go ahead with this
    [14:26:39] Andrew Carson: im not a scammer mate, 100%
    [14:26:55] Andrew Carson: your mate wont even know me
    [14:27:08] Andrew Carson: i havent used owned core before even
    [14:27:22] Andrew Carson: ill go on skype video if you want
    [14:27:36] Andrew Carson: im a prison officer also
    [14:27:55] Shockingcel: well the only way id be able to do this
    [14:28:03] Shockingcel: you have to show me the guild + the gold first
    [14:28:10] Shockingcel: and we will do this in incriments
    [14:28:14] Andrew Carson: yeah i will np
    [14:29:19] Andrew Carson: ill stay on skype the whole time
    [14:29:23] Andrew Carson: on video chat
    [14:32:06] Shockingcel: alright call me and share screens and show me it first before i add gametime to my acc, because im gonna have to buy the gold then my brother will pay me back
    [14:32:11] Shockingcel: idk where the hell he went
    [14:33:30] *** Missed call from Shockingcel. ***
    [14:33:36] Andrew Carson: sorry 2 mins
    [14:35:25] *** Call to Shockingcel, duration 00:54. ***
    [14:36:47] Andrew Carson: just started up wow and its downloading a patch
    [14:36:55] Andrew Carson: 1 sec
    [14:39:18] *** Call to Shockingcel, no answer. ***
    [14:39:38] *** Call to Shockingcel, no answer. ***
    [14:41:04] *** Call to Shockingcel, duration 01:32. ***
    [14:43:07] *** Call to Shockingcel, duration 01:23. ***
    [14:44:45] *** Call to Shockingcel, no answer. ***
    [14:44:55] *** Call to Shockingcel ***
    [14:50:51] Andrew Carson: Magtheridon EU
    [15:04:29] *** Call ended, duration 19:34 ***
    [15:04:51] Andrew Carson: mate was it alliance or horde?
    [15:05:17] Shockingcel: alliance still
    [15:05:20] Shockingcel: outland alliance
    [15:05:37] Andrew Carson: ok npnp
    [15:06:58] *** Call to Shockingcel, no answer. ***
    [15:07:23] Andrew Carson: You have a character online for this account. Please make sure all characters are offline.
    Please clear the mail from this character’s mailbox and try again.
    This character does not meet the minimum level requirement.
    This character’s gold exceeds the maximum they can transfer at their level.
    This character has active auctions. Please cancel them and try again.
    You must have guild members to use this service.
    This character must be a Guild Master for at least 7 days to initiate this service.
    Your Battle.net account needs to be protected by an authenticator for at least 7 days before you can initiate this service.
    [15:07:36] Andrew Carson: needs to have authenticator for 7 days......
    [15:07:38] Andrew Carson: ffs
    [15:07:48] Andrew Carson: needs to be GM for 7 days too
    [15:07:59] Andrew Carson: and needs guild members
    [15:08:08] Andrew Carson: this isnt possible :/
    [15:08:22] Andrew Carson: my level 90 was gm before i swopped to this one
    [15:08:36] Andrew Carson: and i didnt want to have to give away one of my level 90 accounts
    [15:08:48] Andrew Carson: so i made this level 1 toon GM yesterday
    [15:09:14] Andrew Carson: and my authenticator on my iphone is for my main acount
    [15:09:33] Andrew Carson: so only way is if your bro tranfers it
    [15:09:38] Andrew Carson: in 7 days time
    [15:10:00] Andrew Carson: back in 2 mins
    [15:10:07] Shockingcel: kk
    [15:13:05] Andrew Carson: back sorry
    [15:13:34] Andrew Carson: still wanna do this? or not? up to you mate, did not realise all thses complications cuz i havent done this before
    [15:13:43] Shockingcel: yeah i still do
    [15:13:44] Shockingcel: let me login
    [15:13:47] Andrew Carson: okok
    [15:14:29] Shockingcel: got my gametime
    [15:14:39] Andrew Carson: ok sweet
    [15:14:54] Shockingcel: my eu client is just updating
    [15:14:58] Andrew Carson: ok m8
    [15:15:00] Shockingcel: meanwhile whats ur paypal
    [15:15:21] Andrew Carson: [email protected]
    [15:15:54] Shockingcel: you think after you sell me this 1mill gold
    [15:16:00] Shockingcel: you will ever have such a big amount again :P?
    [15:16:17] Andrew Carson: probably but i do alot on ebay too lol
    [15:17:33] Shockingcel: ahah **** ebay
    [15:17:34] Shockingcel: come to me
    [15:17:38] Andrew Carson: lol
    [15:17:39] Andrew Carson: ok
    [15:19:56] Shockingcel: **** im trying to logon
    [15:20:14] Andrew Carson: one thing tho,, you said you could "recall the money" from paypal, so you could **** me over lol?
    [15:20:35] Shockingcel: theres buyer protection, you can do that through ebay also
    [15:20:54] Andrew Carson: ok is it automatic or do i need to set this up?
    [15:21:02] Shockingcel: set what up?
    [15:21:29] Andrew Carson: the buyer protection thing
    [15:21:41] Shockingcel: its not for you its for me
    [15:21:43] Shockingcel: its automatic
    [15:21:49] Andrew Carson: ah ok :/
    [15:22:08] Shockingcel: if everything goes smooth there will be nothing to worry about
    [15:22:17] Shockingcel: because the chat logs will prove that you gave me everything
    [15:22:54] Andrew Carson: well if it makes any difference, we could do business again , ill have 1 mil again soon and sell to you again
    [15:24:30] Shockingcel: that would be good
    [15:25:34] Shockingcel: coming to stormwind now
    [15:25:38] Andrew Carson: ok sec
    [15:25:46] Shockingcel: you cant go on a 90
    [15:25:47] Shockingcel: fly her
    [15:25:49] Shockingcel: here
    [15:25:53] Shockingcel: pick me up and drive me back :PP?
    [15:30:21] Shockingcel: okay
    [15:30:42] *** Call from Shockingcel ***
    [15:39:35] Shockingcel: thanks for the first 250k
    [15:39:49] Andrew Carson: no worries got the $250 thanks
    [15:46:01] Andrew Carson: just got the $350 for the 350k
    [15:46:08] Shockingcel: yep
    [15:46:10] Shockingcel: sent the money
    [15:46:34] Andrew Carson: what are the names of the money senders just to clarify everything please?
    [15:46:41] Andrew Carson: and how much for each sende
    [15:46:43] Andrew Carson: r
    [15:47:18] Shockingcel: sara burley first
    [15:47:31] Shockingcel: sarah brierley
    [15:47:58] Shockingcel: Brian Hemera
    [16:02:43] Shockingcel: Joyce Catchpole
    [16:02:45] Shockingcel: $400
    [16:05:16] Andrew Carson: so i gave you 999999g 99s and 99c for $1000?
    [16:05:26] Andrew Carson: and you received all the wow gold yeah?
    [16:05:31] Shockingcel: yeah
    [16:05:34] Shockingcel: and the 25 guild
    [16:05:35] Shockingcel: :P
    [16:05:39] Andrew Carson: yeah yeah
    [16:05:58] Andrew Carson: and i received the $1000 for this into my paypal account from 3 different people
    [16:06:03] Andrew Carson: ?
    [16:06:11] Shockingcel: yeah
    [16:07:36] *** Call ended, duration 36:54 ***
    [16:16:22] Andrew Carson: you still there mate?
    Shockingcel

    Ill post more evidence in a sec, just trying to get it all together.

    P.S. when i check my previous posts on this site, there are no others on here apart from this thread.


    Jimmy Abbas Jun 26 (8 days ago)
    hey ill offer $900 for this guild + the gold add me on skype: shockingcel

    Andrew Carson Jun 26 (8 days ago)
    ok i tried to add you on skype but i think you blocked me

    Andrew Carson <[email protected]>
    Jun 26 (8 days ago)

    to Jimmy
    my skype is gunshow2323

    On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 7:36 PM, Andrew Carson <[email protected]> wrote:
    ok i tried to add you on skype but i think you blocked me



    On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 7:07 PM, Jimmy Abbas <[email protected]> wrote:
    Yeah i can

    --- Original Message ---

    From: "Andrew Carson" <[email protected]>
    Sent: June 26, 2013 12:46 PM
    To: "Jimmy Abbas" <[email protected]>
    Subject: Re: 25 guild

    HI mate, I got an offer of $950, if you can do $1000, it is a deal

    Thanks

    Andrew


    On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Jimmy Abbas <[email protected]> wrote:
    hey ill offer $900 for this guild + the gold
    add me on skype: shockingcel


    Also I found the original post....

    http://www.ownedcore.com/forums/mmo-...-25-guild.html (Selling Gold Cap ( 999,999 gold, 99 silver and 99 copper) with level 25 guild)

    I have also took multiple screen shots of transaction. I can link them if required , but don't really want people knowing which account/toon I keep my gold on.

    Thanks for your help in advance.
    Last edited by Gunshow23; 07-04-2013 at 08:01 AM.

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    esp3rae's Avatar Knight-Lieutenant
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    Same he adds me to buy a spectral tiger ...


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    death to all scammers.

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    I also get fake pay for my gold 100k

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    [21/06/2013 5:58:13 PM] *** Shockingcel has shared contact details with dushishamo. ***
    [21/06/2013 10:45:03 PM] Shockingcel: hey
    [21/06/2013 10:45:05 PM] Shockingcel: can i help you?
    [21/06/2013 10:45:32 PM] dushishamo: i wnt to sell wow gold to you , do you buy ?
    [21/06/2013 10:46:30 PM] Shockingcel: yeah
    [21/06/2013 10:46:33 PM] Shockingcel: what server//how much
    [21/06/2013 10:47:01 PM] dushishamo: at us rexxar ally
    [21/06/2013 10:47:07 PM] dushishamo: i have 50k
    [21/06/2013 10:47:24 PM] Shockingcel: sorry 50k is too low for me to buy
    [21/06/2013 10:47:28 PM] Shockingcel: i cannot do anything with 50k
    [21/06/2013 10:48:05 PM] dushishamo: ok thanks
    [09/07/2013 9:29:52 PM] dushishamo: do you buy wow gold ar us rexxar ally?
    [8:13:06 AM] Shockingcel: yes
    [5:46:14 PM] dushishamo: i have 100k , how much per k?
    [5:48:39 PM] Shockingcel: server?
    [5:49:12 PM] dushishamo: us rexxar ally
    [5:49:24 PM] Shockingcel: ill pay $80 for it
    [5:49:30 PM] Shockingcel: $0.8/k that good?
    [5:49:34 PM] dushishamo: ok
    [5:49:41 PM] Shockingcel: meet ingame now?
    [5:49:47 PM] dushishamo: how do you pay me $?
    [5:49:58 PM] Shockingcel: paypal/moneybookers/western union
    [5:50:14 PM] Shockingcel: but western union has $15 fee that u pay from ur gold
    [5:50:41 PM] dushishamo: when do you will pay me?
    [5:50:49 PM] Shockingcel: after we receive the gold sir
    [5:51:02 PM] dushishamo: do you need screen shot?
    [5:51:48 PM] Shockingcel: no sir as soon as we receive gold we know
    [5:52:10 PM] dushishamo: ok give me sec let me online
    [5:53:52 PM] dushishamo: Mistwarlock my charater
    [5:57:37 PM] Shockingcel: okay give me a second to get to stormwind
    [6:00:03 PM] dushishamo: i am at trade area
    [6:00:11 PM] Shockingcel: kk
    [6:00:18 PM] Shockingcel: invite Daelashan
    [6:00:19 PM] Shockingcel: to party
    [6:00:58 PM] dushishamo: you can pay me at paypal
    [6:01:05 PM] Shockingcel: okay
    [6:02:39 PM] Shockingcel: paypal address?
    [6:02:55 PM] dushishamo: [email protected]
    [6:03:34 PM] dushishamo: you will send me right now?
    [6:03:41 PM] Shockingcel: yeah give me 2 min
    [6:03:46 PM] Shockingcel: just sending to other people first
    [6:03:48 PM] dushishamo: thanks
    [6:03:50 PM] Shockingcel: need to send 1 payment in western union
    [6:03:52 PM] Shockingcel: and 1 in moneybookers
    [6:03:55 PM] Shockingcel: and ur next
    [6:11:30 PM] Shockingcel: [6:03 PM] dushishamo:

    <<< [email protected]
    [6:11:34 PM] Shockingcel: $80 yes paypal?
    [6:11:41 PM] dushishamo: yes please
    [6:20:11 PM] dushishamo: hi you done?
    [6:26:58 PM] dushishamo: hi you have pay me ?

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    He has already been banned from the forums. I personally saw to this after he scammed me out of 100k.

    Sent from my Galaxy S4 using Tapatalk 2

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    he also scammed me. Sold him 600k for $600 USD. After i gave him the 600k he did chargeback now im sitting with a -600USD paypal. But its cool I have taken the steps by paypal to report to internet crimes division. I appreciate you letting me know his real name Time to have some fun!

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    I should also mention it really doesn't cost a lot to be a donator on Ownedcore... while this really sucks and steps have been taken to ban this guy... it is a good lessen for others than a high personal rep AND being ID Verified is much more important than a person who has donator status... when making a trade with a person that has no previous trade history that can be verified to make them reliable.

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