Multiboxing and reselling.

[impulse1992]

Hi, im planning on multiboxing and later on reselling the accounts and or gold.
Now im not sure how i should do this since.Putting my OO name on all the accounts just seems like a big nono apparent even to the most unknowledgeable person.
How should i go about on this since im going 2 be 10 boxing.


ANY and all help i very highly greatly enourmously appreciated no joke.

[neoblack]

just make up names if ur gonna sell the accts imo if ur gonna use them to farm gold well same make up names just hope u never need to send ur id to blizz lol

[Smitten]

Well, I'll try to answer this as best I can.

Firstly, what are you doing with these accounts to sell them? Max level with full PvP gear, gemmed and enchanted to sell to regular players? Max level with Herbing/Mining to sell to botters to farm with? Are you making 10 high end accounts?

This will all affect how you would want to approach this.

Let's say you want to make Ten level 90 Shamans, in full Dreadful PvP gear. These accounts will be sold to people who just want to get right to level 90 and start playing the game. What name do you put it in? Your name, or the name of a trusted friend or family member who's photo ID you can get a scan of.

Why is this? People who buy accounts to play personally want security. They want to know they are buying it from the Original Owner of the account, and that it isn't an account that has passed through the hands of 4 other people, any of whom could take the account back at a moments notice. They want every piece of information that comes with an account, especially if the seller has no reputation. That includes Photo ID scan, CD Key scan, SQA, any gametime codes used, address, phone number, past email addresses and so on.

Would Blizzard find this suspicious? I doubt it. My name is highly uncommon, yet I have over 15 Battle.net accounts in my name, many of which I've sold on to other people without any issue. None have been banned, none have been suspended and there has been no issue recalling them when people didn't pay me or recalled their payments.

Now let's say you're making 10 accounts to sell to botters to herb/mine with. Make up any old name you want. Use fakenamegenerator.com to come up with names and addresses for the Battle.net account. When you sell it to them, let them know it was made with a fake name because it's only used for botting and not serious play. Provide them with the Name, address, SQA, CD keys and everything.

Are you making 10 accounts to get fully PvP/PvE geared with max professions, lots of mounts, some sweet titles, maybe some PvP rating and 50k gold included? DO IT IN YOUR NAME. These accounts well sell for a decent amount of money - $150 or more if you do it right. And when accounts get expensive, people try to rip you off. They recall their payments. They lie and cheat any way they can to get the account and pay nothing. You need to be able to call Blizzard and get your account back if required.

When I sold my main account for just under $2000, I went through three sellers that tried to rip me off by charging back on their credit cards. It got to the stage where I had to visit a Notary Public and get a form signed for Blizzard to get my account back. When I finally sold it, I asked the person to pay me via Money Order (if you don't know what that is, they basically pay cash at the Post Office or Bank which produces a "cheque" that can be exchanged for cash at a Bank or Post Office). There would be no recalls that way.

Alternatively, the smartest thing you could do is to line up 10 buyers. Ask them to pay you upfront for the cost of the account keys. Make it in their name. Multibox that way, and when it's complete, get the remainder of the payment. Hand over account details. Of course this could be hard because of your lack of reputation (on this site at least), but it would definitely be the safest way if you're worried about your main account in your name being connected.

When I was selling premade accounts in peoples names, it worked well. They paid me, they got an account with what they wanted in their name. No issues on anyones side.

WITH ALL THIS BEING SAID

There is ALWAYS a risk of getting any account that you've logged in from the computer you'll be playing on to get banned if it's linked to activities such as botting, account selling, gold selling or anything else against the EULA/ToS.

So play it smart. Do your research. Figure out what you want and plan accordingly. Ten accounts is a large investment to lose, but when done right, can be a large profit.

I hope this helps, and feel free to ask any other questions you have!

[impulse1992]

Okay, so im going the legit way.My main is a ah goblin that has made 1 mil gold legit in under 1 week and a half with no effort, no exploits not hacks, no botting.
Im veryyyy skilled at to multiboxing and boxing raids.
What these accounts will have.Full enchants.Professions.Gems.And pvp and PVE RIAD gear.
These arent kiddie accounts basiccly put it that way.
I dont bot everything is hand done.

Though i have one problem and gift sometimes im just too damm cautious.Ive never dealth with blizz and im asking various sites some i have rep like a site that starts with Eand ends with C thats for selling accounts not putting full name well, im sure ownedcore dosent appreciate me sending traffic other ways.

So my main paranoia is .Im going to be boxing 10 accounts always together.This is going to essentially bring in Millions of gold, and effectively all of them online at same times etc.
So PROBLEM= what happens when 10 accounts under my name my ip go out 2, 10 difrent ips all over america playing at diffrent times im not playing diffrent locations.Im all for the money, but im not for ****ing ppl over and giving them a awesome account they get to use 2-10 days and they get ****ed, thats just not me.Other games ive done this with the accounts have been sold for over 1 YEAR with no problem over 30 accounts sold in 1 month.Obviously wow from what my head tells me is way more anal retentive.And once again im here to have 2 ppl happy them, then me.

So id really like and appreciate help.If someone with legit help can help me out and im mean LEGIT not some 2 post guy telling hey i know how.I can give u lets say 20k on tichondrius alliance.

And thank you so much RAID i know thought out and drawn out post like that are rare and more so for somewith with so little posts as myself i greatly appreciate and value your post.

The last thing i want is loosing my main account thats very valued.Plus 600 dollars for all the 10 accounts + gold + computer investment.(1200 upgrade on a 2k computer)

[Smitten]

So PROBLEM= what happens when 10 accounts under my name my ip go out 2, 10 difrent ips all over america playing at diffrent times im not playing diffrent locations.

This is simple. Make an investment when you start these accounts to buy a proxy. This will mask your real IP address from Blizzard. Additionally, use a MAC changer on the computer to change your MAC address. I would normally recommend a VM as well, but that wouldn't be efficient multiboxing x 10.

These proxies will be used by hundreds of players over the world to reduce their latency, and to Blizzard, it will just look like another one of these programs. If you want your own unique IP that is not your own, I have a written guide somewhere in the Bots and Programs section about setting up your own Proxy from scratch.

When you sell these accounts, make sure you wait at least a week before your last login and the buyer logging in to the account. I'm from Australia, and all my non-botted accounts that I sold under my name have been sold to people in Malaysia, Singapore, Canada, the US, New Zealand, Brazil and more. Never had an IP issue.

If you want some recommendation for consumer proxies, hit me up in PM. I don't want to do any advertising and break the rules.

The last thing i want is loosing my main account thats very valued.

That's the risk you're going to take when you start selling accounts.

There's one way around this that'll 99% secure your account without needing to use a VM.

Do you have two computers? If so, multibox on the other computer with a proxy. DO NOT log onto your main account through this other computer. With a different IP address, a different MAC address, a differnt HHD/CPU/MB serial number, the only thing Blizzard would be able to match between the accounts would be your name. And names are shared by people.

Also, just to mention although it's obvious. Put each new account on a new Battle.net with their own unique emails. Some from gmail, some from yahoo, some hotmail, etc. Spread it out a bit!

Obviously wow from what my head tells me is way more anal retentive.And once again im here to have 2 ppl happy them, then me.

Blizzard are like any other company - they protect their profits and by extension their customers. As you know, multiboxing isn't against the rules. Account selling is. Which is why, by setting up proxies - and thereby providing the cover story of "latency reduction", which many people from outside the US use legitimately, you can explain to Blizzard the change in IP addresses.

The change in the MAC address, and the separate computer if possible, severs virtually all links from your main account. Just don't be stupid and interact with your main account and the accounts you are selling - no sending them gold, no sending them items, no sending them whispers, no joining the same guild - keep them 100% separate. If you're levelling on a high pop realm like Tichondrius, it won't be hard to find them a level 25 guild to play in that you don't have any main toons in.

[impulse1992]

Im doing all of this on one computer.Thus the problem ive thought about ips.Though the issue is all accounts realisticaly logging on at the same time.I do have the money for the VPNS.I have thought about it before this game.

Anyway al be hitting you up through PM.And that 20k is up for grabs on tichondrius alliance.

[impulse1992]

I totally see what happened i tried pming you last night(had a few drinks) and i was sure the pm went through, i checked my sent items to find i had none.I went ahead and sent a quick pm ot you and found out that your inbox is full so i cant send you any.So anyway when you read this is your still up for helping me out.Id appreciate a way of talking with you.

Thanks

[jaczar]

also how strong is your computer. space etc. you can always run virtual machines and bot thru them. it is pretty safe and i have never had my main account banned.
also i multibox as well but its more for powerleveling than selling accounts.
as far as selling gold, make sure that your ip is protected/masked so that it is not traced back to your mac address. the reason i use vm's is to change my mac address. they can also ban you by mac address, and a vm can change that.

[impulse1992]

I see, and i know my computer can hold up.
Already went through a dualboxing thread about upgrading it. its got the power and more for 10 boxing.

I see, im going to have to do some research about VM, since i really had no clue that even existed.

[Smitten]

I see, im going to have to do some research about VM, since i really had no clue that even existed.

It's very easy to set up. If you don't want to spend and money, use Oracle VM VirtualBox as it is Open Source. From there, get a minimalistic Windows XP ISO and install it on the VM.

Copy your WoW folder onto the VM. Step up a program that allows you to multibox inside the VM.

Once that is set up, set up some form of proxy inside the VM. This can be a latency reduction program that is commercially available, or another VPS/VPN solution.

Now start multiboxing! Your IP, MAC address and hardware serial numbers will differ between your Virtual Machine and your "Real" computer. Blizzard will not be able to link them together as long as you don't interact the multiboxed accounts to be sold with your main account

[impulse1992]

Wouldnt that take up aloot of resources running 10 VM on my machine ?

[Smitten]

You can run all the WoW inside one VM.

Basically what you'd have to do is set around 75% - 80% system resources for the VM. Close any programs running on your proper OS so there is minimal resource usage.

In WoW, set all the graphics to absolute minimum. Run only absolutely necessary addons, or none at all if possible.

If your computer is powerful enough, it's certainly doable. I've done 5 WoW in Cata inside an XP VM on my ~$500 2010 laptop.

[impulse1992]

Well i got 32 gigs of ram.
i7 2600k
gtx680
ssd

So i should be fine.
Though if you through it all in one vm would the 10 accounts be linked.

Were you just recommending to not have my main and boxers linked.
While thats fine for me but for anyone who buys accounts wouldnt that not be optimal ?

[Smitten]

While thats fine for me but for anyone who buys accounts wouldnt that not be optimal ?

There shouldn't be a problem if you use a proxy. Change in IP can be explained by turning off the proxy to Blizzard.

Out of the 50+ accounts I sold, all logging in from my laptop and my IP/Proxy IP, only one was issued a lock and that was my first sale due to my negligence. It was promptly resolved by sending in an ID scan. The rest have had no issues after being sold to people all over the world. You just need to ask them to wait 3-5 days before actually logging onto the game.

Blizzard do not ban for change in IP. The worst that can happen is they'll have to send in a copy of Photo ID to prove it wasn't hacked. The most likely scenario if anything happens, is they'll have to change their password due to access pattern changes.

[impulse1992]

Ok. im still kinda confused.Well paranoid.

So just to make this clear.And sorry man its just aloot of money and i know how important doing things right is.

So my main account witll have lets say mac adress of 11.22 ip 22.11
Boxers will have 44.55 mac adress (all ten ?) but diffrent ips 1-10?
Or will each boxer also have his specific Mac adress.