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    So, who's ready to legally sell their wow accounts? (Yes Sir, you read that right)

    Today (03.07.2012 - Metric Date) a new European law passed. To narrow it down, a program distributor is not allowed to deny the resale of his software starting from the moment he/she sells the program. Now, I'd love to make a long thread discussing the depth and complexity of this law, but quite frankly I just don't have the English skills to elaborate at a level people will appreciate.


    So instead I'll drop the source: http://curia.europa.eu/jcms/upload/d...cp120094en.pdf

    If you don't like links, look below for a brief idea:




    There will be some intense discussions regarding accounts and their eligibility in terms of applying this law to them, which I look forward to.


    I can only imagine the stress levels over at Valve Headquarters today. Some lawyers will be working overtime, that's for sure.


    Times are changing folks, let me hear your thoughts on this!


    EDIT: If you did not understand it by now, this law only applies to companies that operate in Europe.
    Last edited by Dothraex; 07-03-2012 at 05:48 PM.
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    So, who's ready to legally sell their wow accounts? (Yes Sir, you read that right)
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    Now to have that happen in the US.

    Layman's Terms: Blizzard won't go after you for sellign your WoW account.

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    A court does not make laws, and also
    For starters, we have to point out that this is a preliminary ruling, and so not in itself binding – it’s subject to being challenged, and for a national court to actually enforce. It’s also worth noting that the software at the heart of the case isn’t a game, but Oracle’s tools, and a company selling ‘spare’ licenses.

    In the world of games, the subtleties are different – for starters, DRM. By this verdict, you’d be okay with selling/gifting a DRM free game to anyone you chose, provided you deleted/destroyed/rendered useless your original copy. However, anything locked to a personal account and a service’s DRM would be problematic, as the EU has specific anti-circumvention rules in place. There’s not much use selling a game if the person buying it won’t be able to play it.

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    I stand corrected. I assume this has to pass parliament over seas and several monarchs before being made into law, right?

    That's how Europe does things, right?

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    Originally Posted by StygSec View Post
    I stand corrected. I assume this has to pass parliament over seas and several monarchs before being made into law, right?

    That's how Europe does things, right?
    I'm ready to be corrected myself, I found this on reddit and honestly the only thought that hit me was ownedcore's voice on the subject. I haven't payed much attention to international laws and the procedure of passing one is unclear to me, which is why I came here.
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    Because you didnt read it the first time.
    For starters, we have to point out that this is a preliminary ruling, and so not in itself binding – it’s subject to being challenged, and for a national court to actually enforce. It’s also worth noting that the software at the heart of the case isn’t a game, but Oracle’s tools, and a company selling ‘spare’ licenses.

    In the world of games, the subtleties are different – for starters, DRM. By this verdict, you’d be okay with selling/gifting a DRM free game to anyone you chose, provided you deleted/destroyed/rendered useless your original copy. However, anything locked to a personal account and a service’s DRM would be problematic, as the EU has specific anti-circumvention rules in place. There’s not much use selling a game if the person buying it won’t be able to play it.

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    Dothraex's Avatar Member CoreCoins Purchaser
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    Originally Posted by Assistend View Post
    Because you didnt read it the first time.

    Reading and understanding isn't the same thing. As I tried to point out (Obviously not well enough) the language used around law has a tendency of being advanced, not as a whole but it's filled with "advanced" words, thus filling these statements with language barriers, making them extremely hard to decipher, I'm sure you'll understand.


    It would probably be fair to accuse me of expecting information on a silver spoon here, but before you do so please remember that I wasn't taught how to read and speak English by childhood. No, it was something I had to teach myself using online lessons at the age of 13. Again, it doesn't justify me expecting the "silver spoon" service but it explains why I'm just reaching out to a community where I know a lot people were taught English with a silver spoon from birth and have a much better understanding of statements such as these whereas I see a text filled with blanks.


    Edit: Sorry for the Silver Spoon Metaphor overdose, you should be able to get my point though.
    Last edited by Dothraex; 07-03-2012 at 06:41 PM.
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