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    4man yogg 25 +0 helpers (if you are a lock and got engineering)

    After alot of experiementing and tries and timing we finally got it. Too bad I didnt think of this earlier :P

    Ill try and explain as good as I can.
    First of all the setup we had was
    1 warlock ilvl501 with engineering (important!)
    1 prot pally ilvl~480
    1 ret pally ilvl ~475
    1 blood dk ilvl ~475

    (Might be possible to 2man it aswell if you have a really pimped blood dk)


    Now for the tactic. Warlock places his portal (using portal exploit to get past walls) at the side of the doorway into yoggs room as you enter it (See pic)
    4man yogg 25 +0 helpers (if you are a lock and got engineering)-yogg-jpg

    Now thats sorted you can begin the fight so let everyone run into the room and start killing the adds ontop of sara while the warlock uses teleport and then swiftly uses "goblin glider" from engineering and flies to the center where sara/yogg is (its in the center of the minimap if you use that as a guidance). After a little while you should be in yoggs brain room and you can start nuking his brain in advance. Now you dont wanna go crazy because if you nuke the brain down to 30% before sara is gone then its game over. So Nuke the brain down to like around 40% and then slowly take it down without dots so you get it to 32 or 31%. When thats done you just have to wait for the others upstairs to get sara nuked down (with the help of the adds). As soon as sara is gone and yogg has spawned which you can see on emote or someone yelling in TS/Vent/Mumble then you soulburn soulswap and malefic grasp the brain as long as you can til you cant dps more and then the shield is gone uptop and its phase 3 already.

    Now there is a slight problem. You are stuck below and cant use the portals but I found out after a couple of tries that if the tanks and melees goes and hugs the door in the beginning (where you enter the room) then the next spawning add is likely to aggro you and you will get teleported up automaticly. This can also happen in the first phase just fyi and then you just have to have the melees killing the adds out of saras reach til your goblin glider is off cd so you can teleport and fly back down (didnt happen often but it did a couple of times)


    If you reached this far then congrats, its almost done. The tanks and melee needs to take care of the adds fulltime while you nuke yogg as much as possible before they get overrun. Having 1 extra range or 2 even makes it easier ofcourse but having as few as possible makes it fewer people to roll for the mount

    I did this as affliction with flask and food buff and just popped all cds, pot, soulburn soulswap malefic til boss got to 20 then just drain soul with the dots up which made it faster and easier since i got new shards. You will get stunned and sometimes spellocked for 4sec and all kinds of debuffs but just keep going and make sure that people dont get mcd by having everyone facing away from the boss, thus they will never get mcd in that last phase.

    With the above tactic you are skipping the whole phase 2 in which you loose sanity really quick due to being so few ppl to spread psycosis (which luckily isnt happening at all in last phase) out on and all the other shit going on.


    Also some of the adds that are spawning in that last phase cant be killed so you must lower their hp so that the tank doesnt get overrun too quickly as they do more dmg if theyre on full hp.



    Also when you begin the fight, do not run ahead first as a warlock as you are more likely to get initial aggro from the adds and you will then get ported up from brain room asap.



    Think i´ve got it all else just ask and ill answer the best I can

    Edit: Also another tip just incase you overlook it is that you can start ulduar in 10player mode and basicly solo everything (except for thorim which can be tricky to time) and then just go out and set to 25man and walk back in to face yoggie

    If you have trouble getting the portal exploit to work then you could use the mount exploit in freyas room to get through the wall, just check that russian movie below this post and youll see how to do it.
    Last edited by lockyandload; 03-02-2013 at 10:49 AM.

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    similar tactic used here, only 2 people needed. Yogg-Saron 25 Alone in the Darkness (+0) 2 Man - YouTube

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    good tactic

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    damn russians haha

    But good one which shows that when blizz takes away the teleport exploit then u can just use freyas room to get into the brainroom

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    Move to guides

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    Guess this is more unknown then i thouth, but the psychosis buff that is bugged can be activated by imunity spells. As a ret + dk duoing it every week since week 2 of mist we use bubble / ams once we are below 40. I know it works with iceblock, cloak and probably many more abilities. Pritty easy to 2 man after we got to know this.

    Also, this:
    Originally Posted by empty_skillz View Post
    Move to guides
    Last edited by johmey; 02-26-2013 at 04:00 PM.

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    Originally Posted by johmey View Post
    Guess this is more unknown then i thouth, but the psychosis buff that is bugged can be activated by imunity spells. As a ret + dk duoing it every week since week 2 of mist we use bubble / ams once we are below 40. I know it works with iceblock, cloak and probably many more abilities. Pritty easy to 2 man after we got to know this.

    Also, this:
    You 2manned 25man yogg with no helpers up within 2 weeks into panda? You are a very funny guy... And also since this guide involves exploit by using warlock portal but I guess you didnt read that either?

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    Originally Posted by lockyandload View Post
    You 2manned 25man yogg with no helpers up within 2 weeks into panda? You are a very funny guy... And also since this guide involves exploit by using warlock portal but I guess you didnt read that either?
    Yes, like i said. Sanity isnt a problem thus we had what, 12 minutes to do the fight? Yeah its that easy. Only problem in the beginning was the dk almost dieing due to too many adds on him, but it was never a problem with my loh and my sac + bubble. We used cooldowns on the brain to get it in 1 go and then slowly killed yogg. Right now i just 2manned lk with the dk and were on our way to yogg. If youd like i could post screen shots.

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    Originally Posted by johmey View Post
    Yes, like i said. Sanity isnt a problem thus we had what, 12 minutes to do the fight? Yeah its that easy. Only problem in the beginning was the dk almost dieing due to too many adds on him, but it was never a problem with my loh and my sac + bubble. We used cooldowns on the brain to get it in 1 go and then slowly killed yogg. Right now i just 2manned lk with the dk and were on our way to yogg. If youd like i could post screen shots.
    Im sorry but im calling you a troll until youve prooven yourself otherwise. If you are doing yogg with no helpers on 10man then its a cake but doing it on 25man and with shitgear 2 weeks into panda isnt really trustworthy imo. Also are you talking about LC HC 10man or 25man? 10man HC I can solo but have fun 2manning 25man hc with 3 valkyrs...

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    Originally Posted by lockyandload View Post
    Im sorry but im calling you a troll until youve prooven yourself otherwise. If you are doing yogg with no helpers on 10man then its a cake but doing it on 25man and with shitgear 2 weeks into panda isnt really trustworthy imo. Also are you talking about LC HC 10man or 25man? 10man HC I can solo but have fun 2manning 25man hc with 3 valkyrs...
    Yogg-Saron 25 0 Lights 2 manned
    Both are 25man. We deal with the valks by having me tank 1 raging spirit thus making the valks think im the 2nd tank, you know how if you solo it you dont get picked up? Thats because the fight is classing you as a tank, if your tanking a spirit when the valks spawn, the encounter considers you a tank.

    If you want, i can fraps it next week.

    Also, im in a pritty serious guild so i wasnt shit geard 2 weeks into mop. I had full 463 after week 1 and around 470 or something like that after the 2nd week.
    Last edited by johmey; 02-27-2013 at 04:28 PM.

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    Originally Posted by johmey View Post
    Yogg-Saron 25 0 Lights 2 manned
    Both are 25man. We deal with the valks by having me tank 1 raging spirit thus making the valks think im the 2nd tank, you know how if you solo it you dont get picked up? Thats because the fight is classing you as a tank, if your tanking a spirit when the valks spawn, the encounter considers you a tank.

    If you want, i can fraps it next week.

    Also, im in a pritty serious guild so i wasnt shit geard 2 weeks into mop. I had full 463 after week 1 and around 470 or something like that after the 2nd week.
    The video you linked you werent in that same gear though hence why I doubted you, its just that I (as a lock) was debuffed to hell in last phase and was far away from doing my optimal dps on him and making the fight taking longer and then making more adds spawn and 1 pally tank with 480ivl couldnt tackle all those adds so we got 2 more helping out and just making it. Now those other 3 are not raiding in a serious raiding guild hence the ilvl and perhaps not maximizing their chars aswell but perhaps a blood dk can handle them alot better and a retri pally can do more dps than a caster on yogg. One more thing is that we didnt have tanks or melee aoe hitting yogg aswell so I guess we could have squeezed quite alot more there from tank vengeance so my apologies if im wrong. Just seemed almost impossible with lower gear level but mad props to you if you really did it 2 weeks into panda with ~470ilvl I must say...

    And about LK I only thought the valkyrs registrered the LK tank as a "non-pickup" target. And are you really making the timers with only 2ppl on 25 hc? Sure you have 30% more HP/DPS/HPS but maybe its just me not tried him lately and having preassumptions (bad habit)

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    Originally Posted by lockyandload View Post
    And about LK I only thought the valkyrs registrered the LK tank as a "non-pickup" target. And are you really making the timers with only 2ppl on 25 hc? Sure you have 30% more HP/DPS/HPS but maybe its just me not tried him lately and having preassumptions (bad habit)
    In the beggining it was hard to 2 man because of the enrage and the emount of HP i had to spend on keeping myself alive with a spirit on me, but once i got to around 500ilvl it was just a walkover. Now were killing it with 5-7 minutes on enrage.

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    Originally Posted by johmey View Post
    In the beggining it was hard to 2 man because of the enrage and the emount of HP i had to spend on keeping myself alive with a spirit on me, but once i got to around 500ilvl it was just a walkover. Now were killing it with 5-7 minutes on enrage.
    Had to check, he has a flippin 15min enrage lol.. Ok it was quite some time ago @ lvl 80 so im sorry for calling you a troll as I wasnt aware that the valks ignored 2nd tank being on spirit and yeah with 500ilvl no wonder its a walkover now its only ~90million HP (since he starts RP at 10%) to nuke with the 30% buff ontop of that.

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    Originally Posted by lockyandload View Post
    Had to check, he has a flippin 15min enrage lol.. Ok it was quite some time ago @ lvl 80 so im sorry for calling you a troll as I wasnt aware that the valks ignored 2nd tank being on spirit and yeah with 500ilvl no wonder its a walkover now its only ~90million HP (since he starts RP at 10%) to nuke with the 30% buff ontop of that.
    I'm pretty sure the goblin glider method was fixed yesterday. Some friends and I were trying to 3-4 man it, and an invisible wall was put up to block me from getting into the brain room. I did manage to get it to work several times, but after a while the invisible wall appeared and prevented me.

    Back to square one, I guess.

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    Originally Posted by Pyrogenic View Post
    I'm pretty sure the goblin glider method was fixed yesterday. Some friends and I were trying to 3-4 man it, and an invisible wall was put up to block me from getting into the brain room. I did manage to get it to work several times, but after a while the invisible wall appeared and prevented me.

    Back to square one, I guess.
    I just checked and it still works so you must be doing something wrong. After you have used portal through the wall try to use the glider half a second later or maybe even a second later and just glide into the circle in the center of the minimap. Takes a few tries to perfect it but it sure still works

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