Trivialize Nefarian encounter BWD (Feral druids)

[Janube]

This information is floating around already, however, I've not seen it here.

During the Nefarian encounter, phase 1 and all of phase 3, five raid members(25 man) are randomly MC'd and must walk towards a portal. If you reach the portal, you die. You get two abilities, one that stacks a buff on you increasing the damage or healing of your next spell, the other breaks the MC.
Stolen Power - Spell - World of Warcraft
^^^ The buff
As you can see, it stacks to 150. Normally, this would only make one attack do a massive amount of damage, however, with the use of a feral druid's Rip, the damage of each tick is increased by the damage amount, not the attack as a whole.

This leads to 500k damage rip-ticks depending on how much of the buff you've stacked.
Stack a few feral druids, and you're doing 4-million damage per druid who gets to use this small bug.

Unknown if there are any other DoTs it works with, but so far, none aside from Rip.

I do not claim credit for finding this, but merely think it deserves to be here for those who don't read elsewhere.

EDIT:
http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...counter-Glitch
The lovely mmo-champ member who copied my post(actually preferable that he didn't use my name), started a thread with this post and it wound up that all DoTs affect Nefarian in this encounter in the same way- the high damage output of Rip simply out-performs most other DoTs in a big way. As such, this is not technically a bug, but is exploiting a clever mechanic.

Whether or not this belongs here (versus Guides) is up to a mod or admin.

[Koalemos]

So is this why the world first heroic kill had a dozen druids in raid?

[celticking]

Will try this with Rend next time we're at Neff

[jericco]

So is this why the world first heroic kill had a dozen druids in raid?

Yea i knew something was up when i saw that pic, thanks for the info!

[ivan017]

Way to copy pasta this straight from MMO-Champion

Nefarian Encounter Glitch

[Janube]

Adjust for MMO-champ's time difference and I posted mine first. I guarantee you I wrote this myself utilizing information from a different MMO-champion thread, wowhead, and another forum.

Furthermore, I did not take credit for the find, but I WILL take whatever little credit there is to be had for writing it.

This is taken from another well known forum which i will not mention.

He didn't write it either and he isn't revealing the source forum.

Appreciate the distrust though.


EDIT: On further examination of the topic, it works with all DoTs in this fashion, rip just happens to be chosen for its high damage output as is, where most other DoTs don't deliver quite so readily.

Not a bug, but it's definitely unintended to be stacking feral druids to make the encounter significantly easier.

As it is not an exploit, it would be worth examining whether or not this belongs here. Editing the first post with new information.

[R3CoR]

Heroic Nefarian - Forums - World of Warcraft

Dosnt matter if you claim to have credit or the MMO dude does. You're both late

And regardless your post is pointless, the encounter is working as intended and thus not an exploit. The reason they have that many druids is because Rip is more efficient than other abilities, just like stacking mana tides was efficient until they fixed that

[Janube]

This information is floating around already, however, I've not seen it here.

The contention was whether or not I directly copied the post. Not whether or not it was the first post about the issue.

[moonk1n]

Thanks and +rep for finally clarifying how the druid-thingy was going
Was really curious about this one.

[Aldun]

Yea.. If you steal something from mmochamp, give credit. The moment the world-first kill was posted there were several topics about exactly this.

[R3CoR]

Yea.. If you steal something from mmochamp, give credit. The moment the world-first kill was posted there were several topics about exactly this.

All speculations because most of the people have not seen heroic neffy or know the abilities, the encounter is working as intended and this dosnt differ from class stacking methods. If bleed effects from druids are better than most classes then ofcourse they are gonna stack them like mad, the dps requirements are tough so thats what they had to do. Not an exploit, and working as intended.

[Aldun]

All speculations because most of the people have not seen heroic neffy or know the abilities, the encounter is working as intended and this dosnt differ from class stacking methods. If bleed effects from druids are better than most classes then ofcourse they are gonna stack them like mad, the dps requirements are tough so thats what they had to do. Not an exploit, and working as intended.

Eh.. The ability was known since like the worldfirst kill. Just not exact numbers.

[R3CoR]

Eh.. The ability was known since like the worldfirst kill. Just not exact numbers.

And in those several of topics people had no idea what the hell they were talking about, sure there were some with legitimate suggestions and theories. But most of the things posted were nonsense like the illusion potion, doing it for the mass tranq in p2, mass root etc

And most people didnt know about the abilities, either due to their own lack of ability to search for them or not knowing about the encounter in the first place. The first thing people thought when they saw 11 druids, they instantly try and associate it with something logical on normal when it is afterall, on heroic.

This behavior is noticeable when 25% of the people commenting on the topics provide false information like there wasnt 11 druids in the raid, regardless of the proof shown to them that there were 11 druids in the raid. But why search in the first place? 30% of the posters on mmowned seem to lack this ability with the amount of reposts floating around

[TehVoyager]

Well now we know how paragon got the world first heroic Nef kill....................

[Aldun]

And in those several of topics people had no idea what the hell they were talking about, sure there were some with legitimate suggestions and theories. But most of the things posted were nonsense like the illusion potion, doing it for the mass tranq in p2, mass root etc

And most people didnt know about the abilities, either due to their own lack of ability to search for them or not knowing about the encounter in the first place. The first thing people thought when they saw 11 druids, they instantly try and associate it with something logical on normal when it is afterall, on heroic.

This behavior is noticeable when 25% of the people commenting on the topics provide false information like there wasnt 11 druids in the raid, regardless of the proof shown to them that there were 11 druids in the raid. But why search in the first place? 30% of the posters on mmowned seem to lack this ability with the amount of reposts floating around

Anyone who took a second longer to research why they used 11 could just check wowhead, and afaik it was on paragon forum as well.

Well now we know how paragon got the world first heroic Nef kill....................

See above ur quote :P