[Rogue] Ambush -> Sap

[Turfy]

First of all. I did not discover this exploit and the probability of it being known for a while should be taken into consideration. This little trick will probably be widely known after unmercey has showed it in his latest movie.

The trick itself (I do not take credit for making this movie)

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4k4H1Vg6uc4]YouTube - Ambush Vanish Sap[/ame] (cant get the YT thing to work sorry)

Depending on your ping and serverlag theres a small ammount of time before your target enters combat after an ambush. In order to do this succesfully you might want to make a macro with a cast sequence and spam it very quickly.

/castsequence Ambush, Vanish, Sap

This one definately works for me after a bit of practice.

Another possibility for a 1 press macro is:

#show Vanish
/cast Ambush
/stopattack
/stopcasting
/cast Vanish
/stopcasting
/cast Sap

I havent had the time for test this one yet so correct me if I'm wrong here.

I couldnt find this on MMOwned, so if I am making a repost... well... too bad.

Have fun.

[sheet]

I suppose you saw this in unmerceys video and wanted to show it here, theres just 1 problem, which is that this honestly doesent work with a ping below 200 ~, keep in mind unmercey plays in the US where pings are generally alot higher due to the size of the country.

This is useless unless you have a very bad ping, or something is seriously wrong with your server.

[Turfy]

I knew of this trick before i watched him do it in his video. Not that it matters.

I play with 50-60 ping and I'm able to do this and make it work. Not 100% but that might aswell be because I'm not timing it right or pressing fast enough. If that is due to server lag I dont know.

Theres also programs which alters your ping if you really wanna go down that road and make it easier.

[Nikentic]

This is not an exploit.

You used vanish, just restealthed.

But you need 3 global cds, which is 1.5 secs

[Turfy]

Wrong.

Vanish doesnt put your opponent out of combat, therefor you can not sap him normally after a vanish if he isnt already ooc. This equals an exploit since one is not meant to be able to do this.

Try the macro for yourself. Global cd has nothing to say here. Dont ask me why.
Lots of other macros that bypass global cd btw.

[noes]

I prefer saving my vanish for spell capturing or getting out of a snare effect.

U can ambush -> gouge -> restealth without using any cd. so gg

[Slayeth]

Alot of 1500 rated rogues in this thread that don't see how this is helpful.

[ßetray]

Alot of 1500 rated rogues in this thread that don't see how this is helpful.

Depends on how you play but if your running a Mage/Rogue comp and have both players CC'd, then sure this could work. At the same time, it's very easy to waste a vanish on this tactic.

But starting with an Ambush opener is generally dumb.

I'd say this would be good for a 1v1 situation in the end of a fight, not in the beginning. Knock out an extra couple K of the guys life and still get another opener.

[Turfy]

It's very rare you get an opportunity to even do this in arena. If it ends up with a 1on1, sure. But its still not 100% to work so I couldnt imagine anyone doing it if not just for the fun of it.

It's really mostly just for duel happy fun "wtf?" time.

[nook]

This works with bad latency too...
makcro is:

/cast Ambush
/cast Vanish

then u just hammer on sap
as simple as that....
Tried this out yesterday, definetely works
and im pretty sure this is an exploit cuz when u try to do this manually it will never work

Edit: make sure u are directly behind target and in Ambush range, otherwise u will vanish before u ambush

[HalfSlant]

Seems very stupid to waste the CD just for an extra 5000-7000 dmg....

[Joevlol]

And yet, alot of people don't realise that.. atleast 80% of the time, vanish is wasted anyway...

It's a good exploit, a usefull one, and one which will now probably be fixed soon as it has been posted here.

[camo51424]

Yeah it will be fixed blizzard checks this site so that they can get rid of problems like these but nice post anyway I havent seen this one before.

[psiksenz]

I can never usually get anyone to stand still long enough to ambush them in arena lol, usually just spam my sap macro, but then I am an arena nab atm gotta start somewhere eh?

[barasic]

well, i think this is a good macro some what, i've been using this for a while now, i perfer to just use this macro:
/cast ambush
/cast vanish
after that macro i sap. its pretty fun when your killing clothies, this also works on mobs too.