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    [Arena] Three Healthstones, one Warlock

    DISCLAIMER: I have known about this for over a year, and it seems so obvious that I'm sure it has been posted before. However, I searched and I did not find any related topics (I'm guessing it's in the Elite section, but since I cannot view those posts I have no way of knowing). I am not claiming to be the first to have discovered this, but I did discover and test it on my own, so please no flaming.

    Most people know that in raids you can get three Healthstones by having three Warlocks each with different number of points in Improved Healthstone. However you can do this same trick on a single Warlock, by conjuring a Healthstone, spending a point, conjuring a second Healthstone, spend last point in Improved Healthstone and conjure a third one. Although healthstones are Unique, they are only Unique for stones with the same level of Improved Healthstone. They still share a cooldown, so if you pop a Healthstone, you won't be able to use the next one until the cooldown is up again. (Also, if you pop your Healthstone early you can run back and grab another one from the well, if yours in 3s or 5s that is).

    The downside is that it requires you to respec, and can only be used for one game. However, most Warlocks respec for Arenas every week as it is, so this could be practical for at least the first Arena each week. The other concern is that it can take several seconds to spend all your talent points. (Anyone know any macros or addons that help you spend talent points?)

    This was tested on 2.4.2 in Arenas on a live server (can someone confirm for 2.4.3?). Sorry, I don't have any screenshots to post at the moment, but the instructions should be easy enough to follow. Although I am posting this as an Arena exploit, it can be used anywhere. After you respec back to PvE on Tuesday, you can conjure 3 healthstones for your next party or raid as well.
    Last edited by Etherea; 07-30-2008 at 05:16 PM.

    [Arena] Three Healthstones, one Warlock
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    Looks nice but my question is, would you be able to use ALL 3 of them? Thought they had a shared cooldown or something?

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    blablubb's Avatar Member
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    same CD but just 2 minutes... most games in higher brackets are easy around 15-open end ^^ so you can use every 3 stones, and sometimes my mate makes infight, another ^^

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    Originally Posted by [Soul Eater] View Post
    Looks nice but my question is, would you be able to use ALL 3 of them? Thought they had a shared cooldown or something?
    Yeah, i am not sure. But i thingk you can only use one then you'll have a cooldown ( Don't remeber how long ).

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    Originally Posted by [Soul Eater] View Post
    Looks nice but my question is, would you be able to use ALL 3 of them? Thought they had a shared cooldown or something?
    They do, 2 mins Cd. still useful imo.

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    3 HS arena

    3 HS in arena dont work becuse if you enter e arena you lose all concured items so i it only works in e BG

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    Etherea's Avatar Active Member
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    Originally Posted by burple View Post
    3 HS in arena dont work becuse if you enter e arena you lose all concured items so i it only works in e BG
    This only works if you conjure the healthstones after you enter the Arena. You got 60 seconds, go wild!

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    ritual of souls has a huge cooldown
    you obviously didn't test this

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    Originally Posted by Pepito8292 View Post
    ritual of souls has a huge cooldown
    you obviously didn't test this
    You obviously didn't understand his post.

    He's talking about manually creating them and trading them.

    /facepalm

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    Originally Posted by Pepito8292 View Post
    ritual of souls has a huge cooldown
    you obviously didn't test this
    You obviously don't play a warlock.



    @OP this is actually a great tip since I do have to respec every time I do 3s, just leave the points in Imp. HS blank until you're in the arena and make extras of each one to compensate for the soulwell.

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    Originally Posted by Pepito8292 View Post
    ritual of souls has a huge cooldown
    you obviously didn't test this
    You're an idiot.

    Cool idea, but warlocks already have so much to do before the game starts that you wouldn't really have time to do everything if you have to do your demo talents.

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    I guess its good if you are doing a raid instance or soemthing where you may pull aggro but with the 2min cooldown on each i don't think it would be worth it but none the less cool

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    maybe i can clarify

    the use of this would be for whenever you are respecking for an arena or a raid would be to speck all the way but leave the 3 points in demon blank and save 3 points so that when u go to create healthstones you could make 3 dif health stones and use them every 2 mins without having to conjure more. especialy usefull in a large raid if your the only lock (most should have 2 for curses) and every one wants 3 stones. only down side is soul wells cool down in arenas.

    i figured id tie all previous posts together so no one else posts silly questions.

    also about how this works. this has been known about by anybody who knows a bit about how wows programming/databases work. as they are similar to private wow server databases. each health stone is a individual unique item that you create.
    but when you put the talent point in you get a whole new spell that creates a dif item that has its own unique identifier and therefore will not over lap. the spell the stones cast on use, however has a shared cooldown group so you must w8 2 mins inbetween uses. bliz wont be fixing this anytime soon that i can forsee because it would require a core database change.

    hope this enlightens some peeps. sorry for the ramble. havnt posted in forums for awile now. tend to do long posts when i dont post for awile. :bigbrain2:
    Last edited by zuvuwx; 07-31-2008 at 03:35 AM.

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    The respecking looks like a pain, but sounds pretty cool!!!
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    That's common sense.
    But who will pay 50g each arena match, just to get a 3k heal all together?

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