The Free Lunch Is Over - Obfuscation is Coming

[Owneth]

Does this mean that the likes of Frozen and Type Omega are not as secure as once thought?

Please elaborate?

[_Mike]

Yep we on the same page
I was replying to your question "Did they not look at out of process in the past?"

They used to, a long time ago. Then someone (Greg Hoglund I think?) was fishing for attention and rigged warden to read his emails and of course the press took the bait and started calling it spyware.
I guess Blizzard are hoping that the spybook generation have stopped caring about privacy this time.

[highs]

Figured this was the most suitable location for this EULA Changes

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It's interesting that they explicitly mention out of process now. Did they not look at out of process in the past?

they said this long time ago.

LAW > EULA

imo nothing new

[~Unknown~]

They used to, a long time ago. Then someone (Greg Hoglund I think?) was fishing for attention and rigged warden to read his emails and of course the press took the bait and started calling it spyware.
I guess Blizzard are hoping that the spybook generation have stopped caring about privacy this time.

wow that's a name I haven't heard in a long time. Probably not since the sticky in these forums about the software he wrote called the "Governor". Ah, this thread makes me feel old. I guess I'm glad I got out before Blizzard starting making it harder for people on this forum

[XtremImprsv]

So while waiting for EU to go to 7.3, I was trying to update my AH bot with the latest offsets on US and didn't managed to do the usual offset / pointer scan using Cheat Engine, the game keeps crashing every few scans

Is there still a way to do it "the old way" and get the debugging to not crash the game or will it be easier to simply switch to Pixel detection / whatever ?

[Torpedoes]

The game keeps crashing every few scans

Remember those trap pages? They're real :-P

I haven't tried (The Free Lunch Is Over - Obfuscation is Coming)this myself yet but it looks promising.

Please be careful with the client, mistakes like these can and will result in a ban, perhaps even an HWID ban like in Overwatch!

Is there still a way to do it "the old way" and get the debugging to not crash the game or will it be easier to simply switch to Pixel detection / whatever?

I can't recall if people had too much success with debugging. Maybe see what people have done in Overwatch/SC2?

[XtremImprsv]

Thanks for the link ! I'm doing it on a trial account from a "throw-away" laptop who already updated to US, not really worrying on the suspension/ban part of things for now ^^

[Torpedoes]

Thanks for the link ! I'm doing it on a trial account from a "throw-away" laptop who already updated to US, not really worrying on the suspension/ban part of things for now ^^

Good man! Please let me know if that plugin worked once you've had a chance to try it out.

[olilo1]

Pixel-based and external rotation bots are probably fine. In fact, I'd be surprised if any external tools are affected by this. But anything internal or requiring function patching such as Lua unlocking is probably over. There are ways around it and I'm sure the machinima folks will figure it out but in terms of safety, I don't think we'll be seeing anything anytime soon.

AutoHotKey stopped interfacing with WoW during PTR. My homemade rotation bot stopped working.

[XtremImprsv]

AutoHotKey stopped interfacing with WoW during PTR. My homemade rotation bot stopped working.

As in "Can't read pixel anymore with AutoHotKey" or as in "Can't send keyboard / mouse input" anymore ?

[olilo1]

Cant send keyboard input anymore.
There's probably a way around it, but I havent found it yet.

Simple script to try for yourselfs: #ifWinActive World of Warcraft $2:: While GetKeyState("2","P") { - Pastebin.com
It spams 2, when you press it.

[wrah]

Maybe am a bit stupid, but why you cant do bot using only mouse, and eyes? (OCR) Think such thing will be pretty stealth, doing only what player can do, not touching ram, exe, anything.

[Torpedoes]

Cant send keyboard input anymore.

Are you using PostMessage or SendInput? If SendInput stopped working then it's time to dust this off. But I'm skeptical because they tried disabling it in Overwatch and reversed it after everyone's shitty keyboards and mice stopped working. Worst case, Arduino's will be back on the menu.

[DarkLinux]

It does not look like they are dropping injected input, a quick test is to use windows onscreen keyboard.

@olilo1 did you even check to see if

#ifWinActive World of Warcraft

failed?

[WiNiFiX]

Cant send keyboard input anymore.
There's probably a way around it, but I havent found it yet.

Simple script to try for yourselfs: #ifWinActive World of Warcraft $2:: While GetKeyState("2","P") { - Pastebin.com
It spams 2, when you press it.

Have you tried with the latest alpha re-write in .NET of AHK?
IronAHK (alpha): cross platform .NET rewrite of AutoHotkey - Scripts and Functions - AutoHotkey Community