This may be a period ban based on statistics starts few weeks ago

[Dolagon]

After reading so many cases here, and according to mine and my friends' experience of being banned, i came to a conclusion: this's a ban base on a period of statistics, the starting time is earlier than 2 weeks ago.

Here's the proofs:

1.I got 6 accounts, and all of them got banned one by one in 3 days, not immediately at a same time;
2.My friend stop botting two weeks ago, and got banned this morning when he tried to log in at phone, he doesn't play the game for two weeks long;
3.I have tested myself to prove that 1000 pokemons or 2000 pokestops is the limited amount in 24 hours,more will got two kinds of soft banned;

So,here's the conclusion:

1.There's two main kinds of banned,one is period perm ban, the other one is temp ban(including the softban people have found and an immediately perm ban which is not known so well);
2.Niantic started to collect players' statistic at least two weeks ago, and decided to ban those against the 1000/2000 rule one by one;
3.If 14 days ago (just for example,not exactly) your statistic is more than 1000/2000, you got banned today; if 12 days ago, you'll got banned the day after tomorrow, and so on;
4.I guess, no matter what you do or not do, if you against the 1000/2000 rule in any 24-period of your playing time since two weeks ago(maybe earlier), you'll got banned one day sooner or later.

And here's a very precise method that Niantic may use to find out those snipe:

Create a rare pokemon at an impossible arrived position like "Bermuda" or somewhere in the sea or desert something, normal players wont be able to reach the place but snipers caught it very easily and without any deep thought.(i hope i don't remind Niantic to use this way if it dont find out at all)

[R3VOR]

That won't explain level 1 account that got banned (never used account)

[nodesu]

That won't explain level 1 account that got banned (never used account)

Probably because same ip

[Dolagon]

That won't explain level 1 account that got banned (never used account)

level 1 account got perm banned? I have never heard of that...

[retali8]

Niantic are setting up sniper access points and killing anyone who accesses them, pretty sure my account died after I sniped a dragonite

[grobusto]

Using snipe or not doesn t change anythig!

I ran necro and other, with personnal values, and nothing change, at 01 h (France time), accounts banned, even the account who stopped botting in the afternoon.

[dabnoj]

i never used sniper and i got banned dude

[Kureka]

If you ever login into the game not using "real phone" there's 99% chance you will be banned sooner or later.
There's even a case people that playing legit getting banned, maybe because they use fake gps or something similar installed in their phone.

[xWhiskey]

You have some clever points but I don't think this is the case. I remember reading somewhere that a bot developer admitted the bots can be easily flagged by Niantic if they have a proper detection switch in place. Given their experience with Ingress, I'd say that's very likely. No safe setting in a bot can save you if this is the case. The ban will hit you sooner or later, and they're probably running a script at this very moment which would reach remaining botters and spoofers eventually.

Also, there seem to be numerous claims of legitimate people getting banned, especially those that traveled a lot while playing the game. In most cases I would consider this as trolling, but way too much people invested way too much eloquent effort to state their claims for it to be so. I'd say this also proves a mechanism against spoofing which seems to target border-line legitimate players as well.

I don't think there's a way out of this. I've read some experiences of players in Ingress and it seems that the company cares very little for collateral damage as long as the cheaters are out. The only people I see surviving these are botters using their own, more effective private bots which would never reach the public eye.

EDIT: Referencing to what Kureka said, check this out: https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemongo/c..._they_can_hit/

[retali8]

do u think the necro author added a "backdoor" to the source in his final release in order not to get sued by Niantic?? even just something "unique" that's sent to the server, a unique string to identify botting traffic

[antoniusd]

time to retired. haha....

got all my acc banned...

[grobusto]

If you ever login into the game not using "real phone" there's 99% chance you will be banned sooner or later.
There's even a case people that playing legit getting banned, maybe because they use fake gps or something similar installed in their phone.

I think so! They surely implement this feature! No real phone = ban!

[Kureka]

You have some clever points but I don't think this is the case. I remember reading somewhere that a bot developer admitted the bots can be easily flagged by Niantic if they have a proper detection switch in place. Given their experience with Ingress, I'd say that's very likely. No safe setting in a bot can save you if this is the case. The ban will hit you sooner or later, and they're probably running a script at this very moment which would reach remaining botters and spoofers eventually.

Also, there seem to be numerous claims of legitimate people getting banned, especially those that traveled a lot while playing the game. In most cases I would consider this as trolling, but way too much people invested way too much eloquent effort to state their claims for it to be so. I'd say this also proves a mechanism against spoofing which seems to target border-line legitimate players as well.

I don't think there's a way out of this. I've read some experiences of players in Ingress and it seems that the company cares very little for collateral damage as long as the cheaters are out. The only people I see surviving these are botters using their own, more effective private bots which would never reach the public eye.

EDIT: Referencing to what Kureka said, check this out: PSA: Perma Bans seem to be real and they can hit legit accounts : pokemongo

Yeah I think niantic make so many kind of flags, from moving away too much (suspect for teleporting), too much pokestops/catch pokemons daily, etc.
Including use same IP and same device ID for multiple accounts.

And they pick randomly hundreds of flagged accounts to be banned everyday.

[Dolagon]

Niantic are setting up sniper access points and killing anyone who accesses them, pretty sure my account died after I sniped a dragonite

I agree with you but don't find any proof of it....you can see what i added just now above,my guess about how Niantic try to recognize snipers.

[Dolagon]

i never used sniper and i got banned dude

Same with you, here's several dimensions may cause banned including snipering and 1000/2000 rule.