Non-leecher requirement for requests section

[[Soul Eater]]

Like I stated in the topic, I suggest that there is a non-leecher requirement to request things in the request section. By that I mean either the model editing request section and emulator request section.

The past few weeks I have seen many request topics in the model editing request section.
Most of the time people that are requesting things are leechers/new users. There are even people who are bumping their topic the whole time till a certain decree.

In my point of view, new users and leechers should have first contributed instead of directly making requests topics, they need to earn it. While there are some that ask questions for learning purposes, there are more new users/leechers that are requesting things to be made for them, more requests are coming from them rather then people who actually contributed.

As I find this is a community, I find it more appropriate to ask for things when you actually contributed, rather then joining, making a request topic as your first post, and then wait till somebody makes it for you and leave.

Then again, the requests and questions sections are one and the same. And it would be trouble for mods to doublecheck topics to see if they are requests or not. Maybe a seperate questions and requests sections could be done. That there is a non-leecher requirement to post topics in the request section. Then again, maybe leechers will start posting in the main section (which they often do nowadays though) and or in the question section then.

While I stated for the request section to be a non-leecher environment, I didn't mean it for the questions section. Because with questions you never know, maybe someone wants to learn how to do things, and when he found out how exactly things works, he might start contributing the things he have done. While with a request, they aren't contributing and instead wait till somebody makes something for them, nothing for in return.

Well, this is just my opinion, feel free to discuss about it.

[{CoReY}]

I agree fully with this

[stoneharry]

Requests yes but not questions. Anyone should be entitled to ask a question, and when your a leacher you should still be allowed to ask a question. That would mean having to separate the sections though so... *shrug*

[Majestic Team]

Everything you wrote is a 100% my opinion. I own a mount swap thread. Till now only about like what? 5% guys that ask for swaps are non-leechers that all they do is ''hi could you please do me this or that'' and you just do it for them gentily. Honestly I did 22 swaps overall till now and overall my swaps were downloaded more than 150 times. Although got thanked like what? 10 times and got 17 rep which doesn't come all from the model swaps. There you can see that the leechers do everything but contributing.

[[Soul Eater]]

Requests yes but not questions. Anyone should be entitled to ask a question, and when your a leacher you should still be allowed to ask a question. That would mean having to separate the sections though so... *shrug*

That is correct, I mentioned that also but I wonder if seperate sections could be done.

Everything you wrote is a 100% my opinion. I own a mount swap thread. Till now only about like what? 5% guys that ask for swaps are non-leechers that all they do is ''hi could you please do me this or that'' and you just do it for them gentily. Honestly I did 22 swaps overall till now and overall my swaps were downloaded more than 150 times. Although got thanked like what? 10 times and got 17 rep which doesn't come all from the model swaps. There you can see that the leechers do everything but contributing.

Yes, unfortunately that happens often. Although in your case, you could just deny them and say that you won't do their requests as long as they are in leecher status. Infact, I encourage it, that way they will either learn it themselves and even share it here, or, they will start contributing other things and earn it. Then again, I do not know if leechers can view download links, but if they can, well, that sucks yea that they are leeching your downloads and saying not even a thanks or something like that.

Although I doubt it is possible that there is also a restriction that leechers cannot download until they are non-leecher, there are various other places where you can download stuff, like in the emu section you can download repacks, in the program section you can download fishbots, in the guide sections you can download some kind of gold guide or something. Then again in my point of view that is also a bit of leeching, but I can also understand it since we also need a large basegroup(?) Please forgive me, but I do not know if leechers are allowed or are not allowed to download stuff by links, I do know that non-registrated users must registrate to download but I do not know if there are restrictions or not.

[Foxhound666]

First of all I’m new here, But i totally agree with you I always really disliked leaching people that request allot of things but never try to put in any effort. myself I always try to help out people and learn them a few things as I’m a beginner at model editing and map editing but I can still teach people a few things. But overall in emu release thread how can you really contribute there if you have no idea about hosting and everything Database related? I don’t know how it works here with leachers but I see active posting and trying to help out people with a lot of things ( Even if it isn’t your own thread but can still help someone out even if it isn’t yours ) I see that as a contribution as well. Or am I wrong? Contribution is about helping people out right? I understand that sharing and releasing things is a bigger contribution then just explaining a few things.

So how do’s it work here with leachers? How do you become one? Do you become a leacher if you never release something and never post stuff? Do you become a leacher when your active like hell on the forums but still never release things? Because that second part would be a little Bs as if you have no common sense about Emulators or what so ever you cant really contribute In that section right?. But Most of this was off topic.. On topic I think it’s a good idea to have some kind of permission system that blocks leachers from making requests. But asking a question should never be blocked so making 2 sections a question and Request. Would be a good idea.

I can also totally place my self in the idea of Releasing and sharing a lot of things and putting a lot of effort in your work. And people just download it without a Comment or a simple Thank you. I would also get really pissed if for example I do a map edit and working on this for a 3 or 4 months or something ( Talking with a pretty big number but you get my point ) And I release it and after a week or something the map edit got download like 200 times and only 4 comments or something with 1 person saying thanks and 2 people that have no idea how to use it and 1 person who can only complain about your work.

So back again to your post: I totally agree with you

[KuRIoS]

its the same at any part of the forum and not just the easy-to-get rep forums..
also corey, grats on infractionpoints please read the stickies.

[Namor]

Well I think if you limit it to just non-leachers then we'll get more useless and retarded attempts at contributing.

[Remus]

Well I think if you limit it to just non-leachers then we'll get more useless and retarded attempts at contributing.

Not necessarily, it could lead to a rise in quality work rather than some ramshackle edits.

the con being: a lowered amount of activity (leecher and contributors alike). After all, the post owners should be happy enough to be getting views/downloads where as some topics don't get any.