Run PoE as a limited user

[PsiiX3]

HELP!
When i run the runas command, nothing happens.
I reinstalled windows 2 times with different builds (original 20H2 and modified 21H1) and nothing helps.
The Secondary Log-on service is running.
If you enter in CMD just writes - "Attempt to launch"

The command looks like this:

C:\Windows\System32\runas.exe /user:PsiiX3 /savecred "cmd /C cd "G:\Games\Grinding Gear Games\Path of Exile/" && PathOfExile_x64.exe"

[proshloe]

C:\Windows\System32\runas.exe /user:POE /savecred "cmd /C cd "C:/Path of Exile/"&& PathOfExile_x64.exe"

[Rymex]

Hello everyone, for many years I used a Limited User to apply cheat engine to the game and everything was fine. Usually I do this, launch the client, launch the cheat engine, load the cheat table and turn on the necessary checkboxes in it, close the cheat engine, then log in to the game and play.
I haven't changed anything about it for several years. Banned today, I immediately went to the forum and there it is written in the profile "for using third-party software"
Limited User no longer protects against detection of cheats?

win 7 x64, Limited User mode, type cheat - "Cheat Engine"
the ban was received at about 65 level character
and im use PoeSmooter

[thebbandit]

Hello everyone, for many years I used a Limited User to apply cheat engine to the game and everything was fine. Usually I do this, launch the client, launch the cheat engine, load the cheat table and turn on the necessary checkboxes in it, close the cheat engine, then log in to the game and play.
I haven't changed anything about it for several years. Banned today, I immediately went to the forum and there it is written in the profile "for using third-party software"
Limited User no longer protects against detection of cheats?

win 7 x64, Limited User mode, type cheat - "Cheat Engine"
the ban was received at about 65 level character
and im use PoeSmooter

This is unfortunate, but modifying the game memory is the most dangerous way of interacting with the game. Even with limited user method you are able to detect changes to the local process. Sorry for your loss my friend.

[Rymex]

I was not very upset, but I was very surprised, because everything worked fine for several years

[Rymex]

Today, the next account was banned, level 70, I did as before, I start the game and do not log in, I run the cheat and use the table, turn off the cheat and only then log in.
Does anyone know how to apply map_haсk and zoomhack without Cheat Engine?

[Rymex]

pumped the third account, level 75 is FINE.
I left the modified ggpk, but did not start the cheat engine
So now developers even see the cheat engine under a LIMITED USER.

[GameHelper]

pumped the third account, level 75 is FINE.
I left the modified ggpk, but did not start the cheat engine
So now developers even see the cheat engine under a LIMITED USER.

@Rymex is your cheat engine also under limited user method?

[Rymex]

no, only PoE started under limited user

[GameHelper]

no, only PoE started under limited user

Yeah, of course, only poe needs to be started under limited user method. What I mean is did u also blocked Cheat engine folder access for that limited user? If not, maybe try that and then use the CE.

[Rymex]

Oh, no, I didn't even know that this was the way to do it, now I'll try to pump a new account and do so. Thanks!

[GameAssist]

Yeah, of course, only poe needs to be started under limited user method. What I mean is did u also blocked Cheat engine folder access for that limited user? If not, maybe try that and then use the CE.

But tell me - did you make a test application in C ++, which was launched with limited acsses using the technology described in this topic. The application should simply try to read the list of processes running on the system and the list of active windows with their titles. I am 100% sure that such an application will be able to read all this without any problems (perhaps even without using any hacks and undocumented functions).
As a result, it turns out that all these danses with a tambourine like this topic are useless))

[GameHelper]

But tell me - did you make a test application in C ++, which was launched with limited acsses using the technology described in this topic.

yes, @Sychotix did it.

I am 100% sure that such an application will be able to read all this without any problems (perhaps even without using any hacks and undocumented functions).
As a result, it turns out that all these danses with a tambourine like this topic are useless))

But tell me - did you make a test application in C ++ before saying all of this?

[GameAssist]

But tell me - did you make a test application in C ++ before saying all of this?

no, I'm bored of writing such things in c ++, that's why I asked you if there was testing.
but what about hacks and undocumented features?
Is there any certainty that POE does not contain such code inside itself and what is the probability that it still can get such data even when it is running with limited rights?

In my opinion, it is much more important to implement human like behavior of bots, and not to load the server with stupid frequent clicks and mouse movements, which often result from incorrect operation of the bot program - all bans are from this

[Sychotix]

but what about hacks and undocumented features?
Is there any certainty that POE does not contain such code inside itself and what is the probability that it still can get such data even when it is running with limited rights?

I highly doubt that GGG knows of or is using an exploit to break windows security layers.

As far as I'm aware, about the only thing they can get is a list of processes, and the process name. Maybe a couple of other metadata things here and there, but they certainly can not get the file path or access the file itself to do pattern scanning.

We are fairly certain that they have server sided detection for bots. I don't disagree that for things that are more bot-like, having an option for more human-like activity makes sense. I disagree that all bans are from that though. Many people (myself included) have been using Stashie with inhuman like clicks for a long time with no bans to date. All bans that I know of since the discovery of the limited user method have been people either using it incorrectly (running HUD as limited user... or just forgetting to do it) or people also doing RMT. They ban hard for RMT.