[C++/C#] What to learn now?

[Nikentic]

I'm stuck in what I should learn. I've been taking a c# and a c++ course in school, listing what I can below.

Basics, data types, loops etc. (C++ & C#)
Arrays and lists (C# and C++)
Basic socketing (C#)
Pointers, references, objects (C++ mostly, haven't tried it out in C#)

Is there any more stuff that is essential to learn? If you know any good book to read or so, please post it's name

[snigelmannen]

C/C++ via Windows (http://www.amazon.com/Windows-via-Pr.../dp/0735624240)
Any Oreilly book (http://oreilly.com/)

I'd say reversing, bot stuff, xml stuff etc. I'm currently enjoying making some XNA games and i will probably go on for some c++/dx3d later

[notburlex]

Well maybe it's time to actually learn programming then :P
Knowing the syntax and some data structures is far from enough for you to be able to write any kind of efficient and useful program ^^

Really start writing programs and if you need some extra knowledge you can pick that up along the way.

[Cush]

Knowing the syntax and some data structures is far from enough for you to be able to write any kind of efficient and useful program ^^

Really start writing programs and if you need some extra knowledge you can pick that up along the way.

This is the problem I have always had...Knowing the basics isnt enough to write any efficient or useful program, but you need to write programs to get experience/learn, and theres only so far knowing the basics can get you.

[notburlex]

This is the problem I have always had...Knowing the basics isnt enough to write any efficient or useful program, but you need to write programs to get experience/learn, and theres only so far knowing the basics can get you.

You can even write a game with the knowledge you already have.
Granted it will not have a fancy GUI and it will not have super awesome gfx effects, but then so what?
It will give you experience.

EDIT:
I wrote an IRC bot in simple C to get a little bit of experience regarding larger projects, it taught me a lot.
Like it showed me why classes are useful ^^

[The-Eradicator]

You can even write a game with the knowledge you already have.
Granted it will not have a fancy GUI and it will not have super awesome gfx effects, but then so what?
It will give you experience.

EDIT:
I wrote an IRC bot in simple C to get a little bit of experience regarding larger projects, it taught me a lot.
Like it showed me why classes are useful ^^

Vouch. I learned C# by writing two separate game engines with Xna.

[snigelmannen]

If anyone wants to test an old XNA 3.1 tut, here is a Asteroid game

Tutorial 1
Tutorial 2
Tutorial 3
Tutorial 4: Make a Game in 60 Minutes

(Doesnt go well with XNA 4, as they removed/changed most of the methods, and/or changed the overloaded ones)