Archeage - what do you think about it?

[Disphotic]

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I'm looking for some opinions about this game. I'm currently considering getting it due to the openess and that world PvP in this game seems to be encouraged.

What I would like to know most is how fluid the physics in the game is, by that I mean how the combat/movement and the game generally "feels" like. Is it as fluid and responsive as WoW/Wildstar (those are probably the two best MMOs in history in regards to that)?.

Feel free to discuss anything about the game here.

[loworbittrash]

Your asking something extremely subjective but for me, I do like the all the aspects of the game that I played so far in levels 1-25. Combat wise, my build did have some "fast" skills with no CD and they did "feel" fast to me compared to my other skill with a gcd. I'd say that the combat is secondary to the economy and your personal and guild infrastructure. With that infrastructure of farms, ships, etc, you'll be at a disadvantage.

[Flubleah]

Personally I hate this game. I played over 100 hours in the RU version, just a few in NA alpha so far. (I must be a self masochist)

Combat feels fairly fluid, they've got abilities that can be chained like combos depending on what kind of debuffs you apply, which makes the subclass selection interesting. You can respec at anytime but it really sucks because you have to re-level your new spec, but lower level mobs don't give you any exp - so basically you are stuck trying to level a lvl1 spec against whatever level you are it. It's absolutely retarded. In general the combat isn't anything special, it's nothing new and it feels sorta like Aion to be honest.

If you're looking for PVE experience I'd say this game falls under the category of any other korean mmo: Collect this, kill that.

If you're looking for a PVP experience don't worry about your build, gear, or anything else. Literally roll a lvl 1 character, go find some friends and zerg. That's what PVP in this game is: whoever has the most people. So it doesn't matter if you're the best player in the world, whoever has more people will usually win. Additionally PVP is open world (not sure on what servers they will have in NA or EU), so you could be questing away and a horde of *******s will walk by and shit all over you. There are "truce" periods where the other factions can't attack you, BUT they have a solution to that! Your own faction can flag at any time and shit all over you too, so basically you are never safe and completing things alone at times can be impossible.

If you're looking for a crafting experience be in for a headache of ****ness. Crafting is a bunch of bullshit in this game and I only need to mention one thing: LABOR POINTS. They introduced this fantastic system that simulates putting your dick into a meat grinder called "Labor Points or LP". Basically if you want to craft or do anything you need to spend LP and the only way to get them is to:
a.) Wait long ass periods of time (1 LP = 1 minute real time)
b.) Sleep in a bed (only recovers small amounts of LP)
c.) Buy LP pots (for real money or insane prices on the AH, yaaay)
This is the #1 reason I hate this game. It FORCES you to wait. You can't just go out and farm mats forever, and you can't craft all the time. Just to give you some perspective as to how easy it is to spend these ****ers, I did some underwater mining of a special ore and I wasted 5000 in about 20 minutes. So to regain that I need to wait 5000 minutes (that is 83 hours or 3.5 days, ****ing pure utter bullshit).

A lot of people will argue, "It stops botters!" or "It forces you to work with others/keeps the economy alive". Well for starters, if people are concerned with botters they are going to do it anyways, the purpose of having an anti-cheat and active game masters is to remove them, you don't put in a full ****ing game mechanic to limit ALL players because you are worried about a few botters. For working with other people, **** that, you shouldn't be forced to work with others, I get it, it's an mmo, lots of other people, but does that mean I HAVE to play with them? ****ing hell, there are like a million other MMO's where they don't have this dumbass limited crafting system and they work just fine! For wrecking the economy, no, just no, the prices of things are based on their rarity or difficulty to get. Most materials in this game are not difficult to get but the prices are all ****ed up because you have to WAIT REAL TIME TO GET THEM. It's the epitome of ****ing retarded systems and I cannot believe they were stupid enough to think it was a good idea.

FInal verdict: This game has some nice aesthetics and a few redeeming qualities, gliding and building is an innovative concept; however it is completely dwarfed and destroyed by their piss poor execution.

[Ket]

Personally I hate this game. I played over 100 hours in the RU version, just a few in NA alpha so far. (I must be a self masochist)

Combat feels fairly fluid, they've got abilities that can be chained like combos depending on what kind of debuffs you apply, which makes the subclass selection interesting. You can respec at anytime but it really sucks because you have to re-level your new spec, but lower level mobs don't give you any exp - so basically you are stuck trying to level a lvl1 spec against whatever level you are it. It's absolutely retarded. In general the combat isn't anything special, it's nothing new and it feels sorta like Aion to be honest.

If you're looking for PVE experience I'd say this game falls under the category of any other korean mmo: Collect this, kill that.

If you're looking for a PVP experience don't worry about your build, gear, or anything else. Literally roll a lvl 1 character, go find some friends and zerg. That's what PVP in this game is: whoever has the most people. So it doesn't matter if you're the best player in the world, whoever has more people will usually win. Additionally PVP is open world (not sure on what servers they will have in NA or EU), so you could be questing away and a horde of *******s will walk by and shit all over you. There are "truce" periods where the other factions can't attack you, BUT they have a solution to that! Your own faction can flag at any time and shit all over you too, so basically you are never safe and completing things alone at times can be impossible.

If you're looking for a crafting experience be in for a headache of ****ness. Crafting is a bunch of bullshit in this game and I only need to mention one thing: LABOR POINTS. They introduced this fantastic system that simulates putting your dick into a meat grinder called "Labor Points or LP". Basically if you want to craft or do anything you need to spend LP and the only way to get them is to:
a.) Wait long ass periods of time (1 LP = 1 minute real time)
b.) Sleep in a bed (only recovers small amounts of LP)
c.) Buy LP pots (for real money or insane prices on the AH, yaaay)
This is the #1 reason I hate this game. It FORCES you to wait. You can't just go out and farm mats forever, and you can't craft all the time. Just to give you some perspective as to how easy it is to spend these ****ers, I did some underwater mining of a special ore and I wasted 5000 in about 20 minutes. So to regain that I need to wait 5000 minutes (that is 83 hours or 3.5 days, ****ing pure utter bullshit).

A lot of people will argue, "It stops botters!" or "It forces you to work with others/keeps the economy alive". Well for starters, if people are concerned with botters they are going to do it anyways, the purpose of having an anti-cheat and active game masters is to remove them, you don't put in a full ****ing game mechanic to limit ALL players because you are worried about a few botters. For working with other people, **** that, you shouldn't be forced to work with others, I get it, it's an mmo, lots of other people, but does that mean I HAVE to play with them? ****ing hell, there are like a million other MMO's where they don't have this dumbass limited crafting system and they work just fine! For wrecking the economy, no, just no, the prices of things are based on their rarity or difficulty to get. Most materials in this game are not difficult to get but the prices are all ****ed up because you have to WAIT REAL TIME TO GET THEM. It's the epitome of ****ing retarded systems and I cannot believe they were stupid enough to think it was a good idea.

FInal verdict: This game has some nice aesthetics and a few redeeming qualities, gliding and building is an innovative concept; however it is completely dwarfed and destroyed by their piss poor execution.

From what I understand, Trion is going to "rework" ArcheAge to make it more friendly for "western" players. I bet the labor point system is one of those likely changes.

[KAOTIK Gaming]

Personally I hate this game. I played over 100 hours in the RU version, just a few in NA alpha so far. (I must be a self masochist)

Combat feels fairly fluid, they've got abilities that can be chained like combos depending on what kind of debuffs you apply, which makes the subclass selection interesting. You can respec at anytime but it really sucks because you have to re-level your new spec, but lower level mobs don't give you any exp - so basically you are stuck trying to level a lvl1 spec against whatever level you are it. It's absolutely retarded. In general the combat isn't anything special, it's nothing new and it feels sorta like Aion to be honest.

If you're looking for PVE experience I'd say this game falls under the category of any other korean mmo: Collect this, kill that.

If you're looking for a PVP experience don't worry about your build, gear, or anything else. Literally roll a lvl 1 character, go find some friends and zerg. That's what PVP in this game is: whoever has the most people. So it doesn't matter if you're the best player in the world, whoever has more people will usually win. Additionally PVP is open world (not sure on what servers they will have in NA or EU), so you could be questing away and a horde of *******s will walk by and shit all over you. There are "truce" periods where the other factions can't attack you, BUT they have a solution to that! Your own faction can flag at any time and shit all over you too, so basically you are never safe and completing things alone at times can be impossible.

If you're looking for a crafting experience be in for a headache of ****ness. Crafting is a bunch of bullshit in this game and I only need to mention one thing: LABOR POINTS. They introduced this fantastic system that simulates putting your dick into a meat grinder called "Labor Points or LP". Basically if you want to craft or do anything you need to spend LP and the only way to get them is to:
a.) Wait long ass periods of time (1 LP = 1 minute real time)
b.) Sleep in a bed (only recovers small amounts of LP)
c.) Buy LP pots (for real money or insane prices on the AH, yaaay)
This is the #1 reason I hate this game. It FORCES you to wait. You can't just go out and farm mats forever, and you can't craft all the time. Just to give you some perspective as to how easy it is to spend these ****ers, I did some underwater mining of a special ore and I wasted 5000 in about 20 minutes. So to regain that I need to wait 5000 minutes (that is 83 hours or 3.5 days, ****ing pure utter bullshit).

A lot of people will argue, "It stops botters!" or "It forces you to work with others/keeps the economy alive". Well for starters, if people are concerned with botters they are going to do it anyways, the purpose of having an anti-cheat and active game masters is to remove them, you don't put in a full ****ing game mechanic to limit ALL players because you are worried about a few botters. For working with other people, **** that, you shouldn't be forced to work with others, I get it, it's an mmo, lots of other people, but does that mean I HAVE to play with them? ****ing hell, there are like a million other MMO's where they don't have this dumbass limited crafting system and they work just fine! For wrecking the economy, no, just no, the prices of things are based on their rarity or difficulty to get. Most materials in this game are not difficult to get but the prices are all ****ed up because you have to WAIT REAL TIME TO GET THEM. It's the epitome of ****ing retarded systems and I cannot believe they were stupid enough to think it was a good idea.

FInal verdict: This game has some nice aesthetics and a few redeeming qualities, gliding and building is an innovative concept; however it is completely dwarfed and destroyed by their piss poor execution.

iv spent many many many hours watching people on twitch. this made me not want to buy into it now : /

[Disphotic]

Labor points seems like a very bad thing to have indeed. I played a few asian MMOs with "energy" systems. (you spend energy on activeties and then have to wait or pay to refill). That is the most redicilous shit you can implent in a western MMO, and if not removed I can see it making players not wanna play.

[TydusGaming]

Don't listen to the guy that just wrote a book. It is an amazing MMO. Zerging is somewhat of a problem, but like any open worlded PvP game, it's to be expected. So if you go into it not expecting zergs, then you shouldn't be playing it to begin with.

I've played numerous MMO's some of those being: Darkfall Unholy Wars, WoW, Rift, ESO, Daoc, FFXIV, Aion, Wildstar, etc.

I haven't had this much fun in an MMO since I started playing wow in vanilla years ago. That says a ton. I am a little worried about the F2P model, but if the gameplay is great then I can handle it. If you want a true open world PvP game that has a ton of possibilities, I recommend this game. Yes, zerging can be a pain at times, but it's part of the game. There is so much content. I really love that the game isn't brand new as well. That gives it so much more in terms of endgame and the content as a whole.

I paid 150 for the alpah and am defiantly not regretting that purchase.

[Flubleah]

Don't listen to me because I wrote a lot? I underlined the major problems with this game. Just because no other game does what they do does NOT make it "good".

Specifically Labor points; a scumbag business tactic that forces you to either: waste subscription time (30 days, 3 days to get max LP = you can get max LP 10 times for 15 dollars.) or buy pots (500 per pot, would take 10 to get max LP). It's horseshit, just like this game.

I'm glad you're having fun with it acrobaticmidget; some people enjoy skill-less PvP and wasting time/money. (Don't take it personally, that's just my assessment based on many hours of gameplay, I made it to lvl 50 in a large english guild on the RU servers) I doubt Trion can save this sinking ship.

[deadlybot]

so you could be questing away and a horde of *******s will walk by and shit all over you. There are "truce" periods where the other factions can't attack you, BUT they have a solution to that! Your own faction can flag at any time and shit all over you too, so basically you are never safe and completing things alone at times can be impossible.

Open world pvp is the ****ing shit. This game is a breath of fresh air. The only thing that could make this the single best game on the market is being able to loot player corpses.

[pzykonautik]

If you did any research Flubleah, you would know that you get 10 labor every 5 minutes. I have been playing the NA Alpha for about 2 weeks now and I have no problem with the amount of time it takes to get labor back. You need to chill out and enjoy the game. I am finding it insanely fun.

[Disphotic]

What do people think of the general feeling of the combat? Tab targeting works for me enjoyed it in wow, but is the movement and combat fluid and responsive as well? This is the biggest deal to me

[julliuzking]

Don't listen to me because I wrote a lot? I underlined the major problems with this game. Just because no other game does what they do does NOT make it "good".

Specifically Labor points; a scumbag business tactic that forces you to either: waste subscription time (30 days, 3 days to get max LP = you can get max LP 10 times for 15 dollars.) or buy pots (500 per pot, would take 10 to get max LP). It's horseshit, just like this game.

I'm glad you're having fun with it acrobaticmidget; some people enjoy skill-less PvP and wasting time/money. (Don't take it personally, that's just my assessment based on many hours of gameplay, I made it to lvl 50 in a large english guild on the RU servers) I doubt Trion can save this sinking ship.

The biggest negatives you pointed out are taken out by trion. (no more p2w potions, no more slow ass LP, because the community wanted it)
Move along. The alpha server has 14 000 players atm, everyone is loving it like crazy and nobody is getting rid of their accounts (you can maybe find a couple of people trying to sell, most people want to buy) which tells me this is nothing but a success so far.

This is finally an mmo that puts the word MASSIVE back into MMO. No instanced bullshit, the world is mesmerizing, there is shittons of stuff to do.
I for one didn't want another raid progression game like wildstar/wow. i'm sick of those.

I did play RU for a long time and I also said it sucked bigtime.

[Flubleah]

I think one day at the office, all the employees at XLGames were doing ALL the cocaine, and decided limiting people through LP would be a good idea. When they realized it was stupid as **** and a lot of people disliked the idea, they continued to roll with it because **** it.

Statistically you'll drop it in a month, at least that is what happened in korean (stats from gametrics.com). If you enjoy it that's fine, but please don't make it out to be the next best thing ever, it has a few original ideas, but that's about it.

[julliuzking]

I'm in love with the game.

Flubleah, it was number 1 in korea untill the famous patch was released.
They made archeage into a daily quest grindfest. Seriously limited every source of xp other than questing. Destroyed the will to become a pirate/thievery. etc etc
Trion is battling hard and lobying at xlgames to have them port an adjusted client.
Trion confirmed they are not going with these changes , they are not going to introduce the no cooldown p2w labor potions etc etc
They know that if they did, all of their work would be for nothing.

[Kaylee1977]

By far the best game to come out since WoW.

And its only in Alpha. Really looking forward to live.