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    Will I get banned if I use RMAH excessively to flip as a low lvl?

    I had to start a new character + new paypal account because my old one went over paypal's 20,000$ limit.
    New paypal(friend's) and new D3 account to match the names.


    My question is, would my new low lvl character get banned for trading excessively on RMAH for flipping purposes?
    Last edited by Cobra44; 11-26-2012 at 10:41 PM.

    Will I get banned if I use RMAH excessively to flip as a low lvl?
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    Technically flipping is against the ToS anyways, so you could get banned either way. If you're hitting that 20k limit, you're making some serious money and it's likely your account may attract attention since it's "new" and/or probably has a low played time. On the other hand, you flipped 20k, so they probably don't care since you're making them money. Good luck either way man.

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    Originally Posted by Cobra44 View Post
    I had to start a new character + new paypal account because my old one went over paypal's 20,000$ limit.
    New paypal(friend's) and new D3 account to match the names.


    My question is, would my new low lvl character get banned for trading excessively on RMAH for flipping purposes?
    I doubt it. I was worried about "over" flipping in the AH/RMAH so I sent in a ticket asking if mass flipping was O.K and they said this:

    Hello *****,

    Thank you for contacting us with your questions about the auction house! Buying an item at a low price is not against our TOS. Reselling it(flipping) for profit is also fine (and the intent of the auction house, to make money off your loot!). Price rigging on the other hand (ie: bidding on your own items to artificially raise the price) is something you would want to avoid

    If you have additional questions or concerns, please reply to this ticket.

    Sincerely,

    Zalmanarr,
    Game Master
    Blizzard Entertainment
    www.blizzard.com/support
    Last edited by Previty; 11-30-2012 at 03:38 AM.

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    Originally Posted by TheDruid1 View Post
    Technically flipping is against the ToS anyways, so you could get banned either way. If you're hitting that 20k limit, you're making some serious money and it's likely your account may attract attention since it's "new" and/or probably has a low played time. On the other hand, you flipped 20k, so they probably don't care since you're making them money. Good luck either way man.
    Stop talking nonsense lol.............

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    Just make sure that your location is near the paypal and registered address. If you're buying/selling on RMAH and the confirmed address in the paypal/bnet account is states away from your computers IP, you will eventually be locked. It's the lock that you can get fixed via ticket or phone call though, but after 2-3 of those locks they will disable your RMAH.

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    Originally Posted by Cobra44 View Post
    I had to start a new character + new paypal account because my old one went over paypal's 20,000$ limit.
    New paypal(friend's) and new D3 account to match the names.


    My question is, would my new low lvl character get banned for trading excessively on RMAH for flipping purposes?

    Should be okay as long as they don't detect any wacky reason to ban you like AH bots/ gold farm bots . Straight up buying low / selling high never got me banned when I sold on RMAH. I had no idea D3 was still profitable to the point of breaking Paypal's 20k limit lol. How long did that 20k take to accumulate?

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    I had 8000 revenue USD from RMAH for the month of November alone, which was my most successful month, previous months had around 4000-7000$ monthly revenue. So I'd say around 3-4 months to break the 20k$ limit.

    Keep in mind, this is GROSS PROFIT, and does not include any expenses to buy gold, etc. My true profit margin is around 25-40%

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    Originally Posted by Cobra44 View Post
    I had 8000 revenue USD from RMAH for the month of November alone, which was my most successful month, previous months had around 4000-7000$ monthly revenue. So I'd say around 3-4 months to break the 20k$ limit.

    Keep in mind, this is GROSS PROFIT, and does not include any expenses to buy gold, etc. My true profit margin is around 25-40%
    Then it`s not called gross profit. lol.. I am just bored.

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    Ops lol I stand corrected

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    YOU SHOULD NEVER GET BANNED FOR GOLD SELLING/RMAH SELLING OR WHAT SO EVER.
    In case you do, its 100% appealable, however - as long as paypal covers bnet info they have no intention of checking you

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    No rules against flipping!

    I personally think flipping is what keeps value on items I think infinitely less items would be purchase and in turn with less items purchase everyone would under cut the price of the next similar one perpetuating lower and lower prices. I personally applaud flippers for taking the risk with their funds what keeping item valuations significantly higher and not ruining the economy.

    Although the economy sucks due to the fact of EXTREMELY player loss since launch!!!!

    Since blizzard is taking their cut and as long as you are not using a bot program im sure sure they are thrilled taking 1 dollar + 15% on the initial purchase as well as the same on your significantly higher price.


    If I was a company like bliz I would pay people to flip items just to keep the economy stable as well as line my pockets!!!!

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    Originally Posted by Pusia View Post
    YOU SHOULD NEVER GET BANNED FOR GOLD SELLING/RMAH SELLING OR WHAT SO EVER.
    In case you do, its 100% appealable, however - as long as paypal covers bnet info they have no intention of checking you
    It`s hard to say. But gold trading accounts get banned all the time even there's no botting/third-party-software involved. And it is non-appealable. Sure, you can appeal in this situation, but you are not gonna win. Only Auction-related ban is 100% appealable. There are at least 3 super big buyers on ownedcore had their trade accounts banned at least once. Some of these account had RMAH activities besides trading gold with other players. The rate is higher for Chinese traders. The best way is to diversify you investments. Even if the risk is low, you still don't want to get hit by ban hammer.

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    Originally Posted by somaliasky View Post
    Then it`s not called gross profit. lol.. I am just bored.
    it's still a pretty hefty profit, not sure how much work goes into it . i'm assuming it's a buy tons of cheap gold, buy high end items from GAH, resell in RMAH = Profit. I plan to return when PVP is near implementation. Perhaps I'll stock up on gold while it's dirt cheap.

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    Originally Posted by Cobra44 View Post
    I had 8000 revenue USD from RMAH for the month of November alone, which was my most successful month, previous months had around 4000-7000$ monthly revenue. So I'd say around 3-4 months to break the 20k$ limit.

    Keep in mind, this is GROSS PROFIT, and does not include any expenses to buy gold, etc. My true profit margin is around 25-40%
    How the f..

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    Originally Posted by somaliasky View Post
    It`s hard to say. But gold trading accounts get banned all the time even there's no botting/third-party-software involved. And it is non-appealable. Sure, you can appeal in this situation, but you are not gonna win. Only Auction-related ban is 100% appealable. There are at least 3 super big buyers on ownedcore had their trade accounts banned at least once. Some of these account had RMAH activities besides trading gold with other players. The rate is higher for Chinese traders. The best way is to diversify you investments. Even if the risk is low, you still don't want to get hit by ban hammer.
    How come that my friend got 2 of his accoutns unbanned, when they both got banned for goldselling?

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