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    Three Character 21 Total Days MF vs GF Analysis - Sarkoth + Tips

    [b]Edit#5:

    Edit#4: with the banwaves and rate limiting, I can no longer recommend that you upgrade to this setup as you might not be able to pay it off. However, a 300 MF 100GF gear for cheap might still be more profitable than the 300GF 100MF cheap sets people are doing.

    Edit#3: ignore edit 2. Picture of Barb Gear & Wizard Gear Added to bottom

    REVERSE Edit: Drops ARE linear. The graph below didn't have enough Data.
    Source: http://www.diablofans.com/topic/5793...tical-insight/



    I see many people viewing but not posting. Feel free to ask any questions, I am more than happy to answer. Post feedback!

    While most people have been packing on the GF, with MF as an afterthought, I have put MF as the priority, even going as far as to make sure that my characters use SunKeepers as their weapons.

    A few have listened to me, but most have ignored me completely. Well, its hard to ignore hard numbers.

    Even with my Wizard in the middle of gearing and testing new scripts, here were my overall numbers.

    3 Character gold from GF%: 214 Million Gold [is what they would have made if they ran 24/7, but they made close to this number]
    3 Character gold from MF%: 359 Million Gold actually made - logs as proof below

    DEMON HUNTER - Running Custom Path, Blacksack Functions. I believe Blacksack included my routine in his latest hybrid pack, not sure. Highly customized kill routine though, requires specialized gear.

    BARBARIAN - Stock Blacksack Barbarian - although the script does feature many of my contributions. [Skills, Kill routine, ideas]

    SORC - Chancity Wiz Sorc - features a few of my contributions. Stock.


    ----------------------- LOOKING FORWARD TO THE FUTURE ----------------------------

    As gold saturates the market, more and more people have gold and the value of gold continues to plummet. Your gold per hour might improve slightly as your gear becomes better and the scripts become tighter. HOWEVER: As gold saturates the market, the amount of money you get from your items inversely INCREASES at the same rate that gold decreases. Even if I don't change my gear at all, I will get the same gold next week only it will be worth significantly less money. The amount of gold from items I get next week will probably be significantly higher.

    --------------------- SELLING STRATEGY -------------------------------------------

    I also had about 2-5 Mil on each character of items values 100-300k that I didn't even bother including.

    The strategy on these is to sell it at 200k if it is an item worth 400k, you will have SO MANY that the most efficient way to make money is to sell them cheap so that they free up space quickly. You will need that space for running 36 hour godlies that have no buyout

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    If you liked this analysis, please donate to me, I'll give you my tag.

    THAT WAS A JOKE. +rep if you want to, or at least give some feedback.


    ------GEAR---------- Thanks to Jcunit for screenshotting all my wiz gear and making a montage. If anyone wants to do this for my barb or DH let me know.



    ------BARB----------- Thank you pimperium



    ------DEMON HUNTER----------

    Last edited by LATM; 07-20-2012 at 02:26 AM.

    Three Character 21 Total Days MF vs GF Analysis - Sarkoth + Tips
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    What did you do with these characters? Dank Cellar?

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    Originally Posted by schlecki View Post
    What did you do with these characters? Dank Cellar?
    yes. If you are running Core of Arreat or any other script in Nightmare/Hell you will get exactly 0M/Week from MF.

    Everyone running those scripts is missing more than half of their money right now.

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    i'm also with u on this but it seem my luck is far lower than yours about godly drops

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    Yeah, it's funny because before you opened your thread I started looking for MF/GF gear and it's allready pretty expensive, but now when people this thread read I guess the price will jump even higher / i'm gettin outbid, darn!

    Anyway, nice post I'd +rep if I could

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    Originally Posted by schlecki View Post
    Yeah, it's funny because before you opened your thread I started looking for MF/GF gear and it's allready pretty expensive, but now when people this thread read I guess the price will jump even higher / i'm gettin outbid, darn!

    Anyway, nice post I'd +rep if I could
    I am a fan of anyone who is a fan of me, cause my ego must be stroked constantly.
    Last edited by LATM; 07-08-2012 at 01:07 PM.

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    Mate, nice analysis and no offense, but you're NOT allowed to ask for rep in the forums!
    Anyway, I repped you!
    Last edited by Macpod; 07-08-2012 at 12:56 PM.

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    Originally Posted by Finrodi View Post
    Mate, nice analysis and no offense, but you're NOT allowed to ask for rep in the forums!
    Anyway, I repped you!
    Hmm...every single profile asks for it. I will remove if mod requests me to.
    Last edited by LATM; 07-08-2012 at 01:19 PM.

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    Still a very nice analysis. +rep

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    Awesome analysis but you must have gosu gear for that high mf and gf!

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    im also using the higher Mf and while my gph is lower, I am making a lot more gold selling items on AH.

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    Originally Posted by sydeu View Post
    Awesome analysis but you must have gosu gear for that high mf and gf!
    Its pretty good. On the Barb & Sorc the main difficulty is finding extremely high stat gear to compensate for the fact that Sunkeepers have incredibly low damage.

    If you want to use a sunkeeper on chancs wizard script, you also need gloves that have MF/GF AND ASI, because otherwise the cast animations are too slow at 1.2APS

    Also, do not artificially inflate damage with Crit%, attacking for 2.5 seconds you are unlikely to crit unless you have very very high crit chance gear. AVOID crit gear, or if it just happens to be on the character, calculate it out and use lower DPS.

    DH is a completely opposite setup.
    Last edited by LATM; 07-08-2012 at 02:47 PM.

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    Accidentally double post, please delete this post.

    DELETE

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    DEMON HUNTER - Running Custom Path...
    Can you give some more information about your pathing (Res 1920x1080) ?

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    Originally Posted by Venk2012 View Post
    Can you give some more information about your pathing (Res 1920x1080) ?
    Its in blacksack's hybrid thread now.

    It does two things differently on the walk routine,
    #1 - moves closer to the cellar so it doesn't have to run "up"
    #2 - uses funcsprint() and func distcalc to optimize wait times based on distance traveled
    #3 most important uses FastFind for enhanced cellar detection, NEVER MISSES A CELLAR EVER, combined with fail check to see if it landed on the cellar but didn't go in, clicking on his own feet to make sure he never ever misses an open cellar[/b]

    Kill Routine:
    Kills in 1-2 shots of loaded for boar, requires a gear setup i will explain in a minute.

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