Tillmannstoasty is a scammer

[Tillmannstoasty]

Hi .
http://www.ownedcore.com/forums/mmo-...ml#post3690349 (Tillmannstoastys VIP ZZUK PROFILES !)

http://www.ownedcore.com/forums/mmo-...ml#post3690439

This guy is going to scamm me.
I sold him my profiles 1 week ago and gave him access to 66% of my profiles.
Like in thread there is a notice that new members have to wait 2 weeks to get full access because of scammers like him!
I told him i gave him the profiles already after 1 week not after 2 !
now he opened a Paypal dispute and telling im the scammer....

hes an unfriendly ******* and i dont want him as my customers so i told him i give him a refund of 10€
thats more as fair because he got more then 50% of my profiles.
he denied and saying:
he wants a full refund( why shall i do this i gave him already most of my profiles) or my profiles( i dont want this because hes an unfriendly ******* and i dont want dicks have my stuff)

Hes telling that he have a right to get my lifetime and future updates.
This is actually not true.
Im the one who decides whos getting my lifetime support and future updates!
If someone act like him and is getting unfriendly and acting like a dick dont get any support from me anymore.


Pls ban this guy and remove this bs posts from my thread thx

[DvASystems]

Hello, this trade was conducted outside OC. People are free to leave reviews even if they purchased outside OC.
You have behaved very unprofessional towards the costumer, in this case you disputed a negative review which is truthful in certain aspects.

We will not remove it. As for the refund/chargeback. You will have to counter-claim it on Paypal by either providing a partial refund which you wanted in the first place or just go all the way.
This will not be discussed further.

[DvASystems]

Dispute re-opened. Buyer will agree on a 66% refund as he only received 1/3 of the profiles.
He will provide proof shortly.

[evv0kk]

I was removed from the github list but luckily i still have the original zip: link removed

as you can see route 2 and 3 are pretty much empty. There were supposed to be 3 routes.

[Tillmannstoasty]

are you stupid? i told you already that i dont support you anymore

And no he didnt have 1/3 ?
thats bs....
i can send the admin via private msg a list of the actuall full list of all profiles

i said there are supposed to be multiple leveling routes.
never said that this are 3 complete 1-60 routes you ****ing idiot

[DvASystems]

are you stupid? i told you already that i dont support you anymore

And no he didnt have 1/3 ?
thats bs....
i can send the admin via private msg a list of the actuall full list of all profiles

i said there are supposed to be multiple leveling routes.
never said that this are 3 complete 1-60 routes you ****ing idiot

Hey, if you want to trade on ownedcore you gotta act professional.
I reopened this trade to save you further trouble as it seems to be way too much miscommunication over what you are selling and what people get after payment.

From what I've gathered, people pay you 20€ and you give them two leveling paths from 1-60 (Horde and Alliance.)
What comes after 1 week delay? Specify please what he's missing out on and why he got upset.

[Tillmannstoasty]

sorry but i cantsympathize with a ****** that is trying to scamm me and writing 24/7 bullshit about me

after 1 week they get access to my new discord with some reworked profiles and actually 1/2 new routes for 1-30. some more gotos and some other new profiles ( depends what im working on)

i made the 1-2 week delay because of scammers like him.


actually it contains this:
route 2 1-25 (not for both factions)
and route 3 1-30 that ( not for both factions)

I dont know how he thinks that the other 2 routes are already completed this is completly bullshit

[DvASystems]

What's the matter with you? I am asking you to be professional so we can settle this case once for all and you keep cursing the guy out.

However we do have a problem now. Initially I was against D3P's belief that you should fully refund the guy since I thought you only sold 1 profile 1-60 (Alliance/Horde).

Except I checked your thread:
This exists in the changelog:
- 3x different Leveling Profiles for 1-60
- will 100% work with v3

Thus evv0kk is correct, at one point you did advertise 3 leveling profiles which he should've gotten after the 1-2 week delay.

Either way, I can temp ban you for cussing the guy out and messing with D3P earlier.
I can also ban you for false advertising.

[Tillmannstoasty]

You already said you dont support trades outside from oc.
Like i said before i had some missinformations here in this thread thats why i changed it.

We didnt tradet on oc if we did i would say y i made a mistake but the trade was on zzuk with the right informations everytime ( because it was my main thread)

so this guy dont have any right to of get what was written here on oc!

[DvASystems]

You already said you dont support trades outside from oc.
Like i said before i had some missinformations here in this thread thats why i changed it.

We didnt tradet on oc if we did i would say y i made a mistake but the trade was on zzuk with the right informations everytime ( because it was my main thread)

so this guy dont have any right to of get what was written here on oc!

You can't back out now seeing how you listed same terms on Zzuk and OC.
You owe him 2 more profiles. We do cross-ban people, initially we rejected the case due to it being a twist from Zzuk but seeing how you had same agreements here it doesn't matter anymore.

Your next reply should either be:
A) Yes, I will refund him 13€ (66%~) as I did not provide 2/3 profiles.
B) Yes, I will give him the rest of the profiles.
You can confirm by telling him this in the paypal dispute or PMing him on OC.

If you choose not to, we are gonna have problems as you did advertise 3x profiles and and edited them out. The discord dates show that he contacted you when the 3x profile listing was active meaning at one point you did plan on giving customers 3 profiles.

[Tillmannstoasty]

You can't back out now seeing how you listed same terms on Zzuk and OC.
You owe him 2 more profiles. We do cross-ban people, initially we rejected the case due to it being a twist from Zzuk but seeing how you had same agreements here it doesn't matter anymore.

Your next reply should either be:
A) Yes, I will refund him 13€ (66%~) as I did not provide 2/3 profiles.
B) Yes, I will give him the rest of the profiles.
You can confirm by telling him this in the paypal dispute or PMing him on OC.

If you choose not to, we are gonna have problems as you did advertise 3x profiles and and edited them out. The discord dates show that he contacted you when the 3x profile listing was active meaning at one point you did plan on giving customers 3 profiles.

i didnt had the same agreements on zzuk !
Proof it !

[DvASystems]

I'll just submit the discord logs as evidence against you then, you did have an agreement.


Refund 66% or give the costumer the rest.
Review will stay up, this thread is no longer about disputing the review. It's about you falsely advertising and then banning the costumer for requesting the rest of the profiles.

[Tillmannstoasty]

I'll just submit the discord logs as evidence against you then, you did have an agreement.


Refund 66% or give the costumer the rest.
Review will stay up, this thread is no longer about disputing the review. It's about you falsely advertising and then banning the costumer for requesting the rest of the profiles.

but i never said that they are completed lol
there are 2 routes but they arent done yet


its not a false advertise if we didnt tradet on oc...

If you actually take the discord history in this then he still have to wait 1 week. so he need to close the paypal dispute ( because its then a scamm)
I banned him from my other profiles because he was a toxic person and tried to get the profiles behind my back because he didnt wanted to follow the rules( its a scamm for me)

[evv0kk]

If we take the discord history, you said that you changed your mind and that it was 1 week instead of 2, and made me wait longer than a week because:

"not today im offline in 5 minutes



im on a birthday tomorrow or sunday






i dont have that much time on this weekend"

You have 2 options that the admins gave you.

A) Yes, I will refund him 13€ (66%~) as I did not provide 2/3 profiles.
B) Yes, I will give him the rest of the profiles.




When you refund it on paypal, the dispute will drop. When you send me the profiles I paid for, I will drop the dispute. This is very simple, and you are making it difficult for yourself and hurting your business.

[DvASystems]

but i never said that they are completed lol
there are 2 routes but they arent done yet


its not a false advertise if we didnt tradet on oc...

If you actually take the discord history in this then he still have to wait 1 week. so he need to close the paypal dispute ( because its then a scamm)
I banned him from my other profiles because he was a toxic person and tried to get the profiles behind my back because he didnt wanted to follow the rules( its a scamm for me)

What's your point? You falsely advertised completed profiles here on OC too. You did promise the rest after 1-2 weeks which are nowhere to be found.
You have 24 hours to refund 13€ to evv0kk or deliver the rest. If you don't comply you will get permabanned and marked as you've messed with the mods, lied about details, called others a ****** and acted entirely unprofessional through the whole ordeal.

Thread closed. PM me when you've delivered the rest of the profiles or refunded the remainder.