What attracted you to OwnedCore in the very beginning?
I was trying some exploration techniques in-game and I think I started searching for information on the edge of the world and GM island. I must have come across the exploration forum here, probably something WizardTrokair did.
I think it was a trick you can still use in the Battle for Gilneas. You can blink through the barrier into the mine itself, and mind control people using the engineering belt. They come in with you once you've MC-ed them, and can't get out. They remain trapped there for the whole bg. No one took much notice of that, the first one where I started getting any rep was a trick to use remote quests to get to level 22 in a 10-19 bracket bg. That rocked.
The mage Icicles exploit in MOP. Basically you spellsteal a bunch of buffs off the valkyrion aspirants in the storm peaks in Northrend. That allows you to do millions of damage. The thing the buff fades if you leave the zone. I found that mage icicles could be built up the millions and these did NOT fade when you left the zone. So you could port to raid boss and one-shot them. A bunch of teams had a lot of fun with that one. It lasted several weeks as I posted it to elite. A lot of people got banned.
How does somebody, like yourself, start finding so many quality exploits? In other words what makes you see something & go "I can probably exploit this by doing this, this, and that."?
Mostly through an insane amount of work. I'm talking about thousands of hours of testing. There are tricks which help obviously. You need to know a lot about searching databases and have a good memory for classes of exploits. Generally speaking exploits are more likely to occur when something changes, so I always screw around with anything Blizzard introduced recently. I'm always very interested in items/abilities which have some physical effect, particulary those which allow players to gain height somehow. New items/abilities so often have gamebreaking applications I suspect Blizzard may allow it deliberately to some extent to gain publicity.
It gets much easier as you develop more and more plays because you have an existing body of knowledge to work from. There are specific things I look for-for
example I'm forever looking for things where the effects persist through zones, debuffs with positive effects are always worth a look, non-soulbound and non-stackable items often produce interesting effects. Currently the class trial system can be exploited with almost any limited supply or cooldown per toon restriction.
It gets much easier as you develop more and more plays because you have an existing body of knowledge to work from. There are specific things I look for-for
example I'm forever looking for things where the effects persist through zones, debuffs with positive effects are always worth a look, non-soulbound and non-stackable items often produce interesting effects. Currently the class trial system can be exploited with almost any limited supply or cooldown per toon restriction.
Not any more. I have literally zero time left for other games. I've toyed with the idea of doing Overwatch because the game appeals to me and a lot of my youtube audience have it.
The usual stuff, like to read, exercise, music, watch films. You need to do at least two hours of exercise daily and a decent amount of non-internet time to focus properly.
advanta is derived from advantageplayer. An advantageplayer is a gambler who uses scientifically valid methods (eg card counting) to get an edge in casino games. Archvaldor (my youtube name and how many know meon ownedcore) is just a name I came up with because I wanted a ridiculously pompous self-important name formy tiny gnome mage. I sort of imagine gnome mages as having a napoleon complex.
I'm focusing a lot more on gold-making exploits as it gets serious traffic. In the longer term I'm not sure. I started exploiting mainly as a perverse way of getting myself banned permanently from warcraft. Blizzard have punished me by not doing that, though I'm on a final ban. It could happen tomorrow. Then I'm
not sure whether I want to level up my toons again. I probably would.Exploiting is very time-consuming and does dramatically cut down on my income through lost productivity. I'mthinking of ways to monetize my youtube channel. I'm very reluctant to charge for any content. I'm not a fanof things like Patreon. Some people have suggested starting a forum, but that would put me in direct competition with OC which would just be wrong given how much it has helped me.I may write an e-book and see how that goes.
not sure whether I want to level up my toons again. I probably would.Exploiting is very time-consuming and does dramatically cut down on my income through lost productivity. I'mthinking of ways to monetize my youtube channel. I'm very reluctant to charge for any content. I'm not a fanof things like Patreon. Some people have suggested starting a forum, but that would put me in direct competition with OC which would just be wrong given how much it has helped me.I may write an e-book and see how that goes.
Even though you say you are not a fan of Patreon it is definitely not a bad idea for a smaller to medium sized youtube channel. As far as exploits go you could release them early to your Patreon pledges or something like that. Are these things that have crossed your mind? If so what about Patreon makes you stray away from it?
I should rephrase what I said. Patreon feels weird to me. It works well for other people. Being a bit older and coming from a culture where tipping isn't particulary commonplace, I have a problem with asking people without offering them anything in return directly, which is a lot of what Patreon is about.
Your idea is actually a rather good one, I don't want to cut people out of the loop who can't afford it, but there may be a case for releasing information I would not currently release at all to patreon pledges. Some exploits would be fixed instantly if I release them publicly, so if I start releasing them to Patreon pledges
the content on my main channel would be the same.
Even with this I'm very concerned all those people who supported me in the early stages and don't have cash to burn would feel left out in some way.
Your idea is actually a rather good one, I don't want to cut people out of the loop who can't afford it, but there may be a case for releasing information I would not currently release at all to patreon pledges. Some exploits would be fixed instantly if I release them publicly, so if I start releasing them to Patreon pledges
the content on my main channel would be the same.
Even with this I'm very concerned all those people who supported me in the early stages and don't have cash to burn would feel left out in some way.
Yeah. The warlock has some very interesting plays at the moment.
OC has consistently brilliant exploit content posted to it. I would always be curious what was going on even if I left wow altogether. I like to use it as a yardstick for the quality of my own content, you need that feeling of "damn, wish I'd posted that" to keep your motivation up. It is also a great way to get ideas.
I never just re-use other people's ideas-that doesn't interest me, everything I come up with has to be my own, but sometimes you can build on a general principle.
I never just re-use other people's ideas-that doesn't interest me, everything I come up with has to be my own, but sometimes you can build on a general principle.
I like it the way it is. One thing I like about the exploration forum is its clear tutorial and beginner questions sticky. I imagine it is a little intimidating for newcomers to exploits or possibly other OC forumsto work out what is going on, so it might be a good idea to do the same thing there. Another thing I've noticed since my youtube channel got larger in the past year is that it is apparent lots of people who love the idea of exploits and a site like Ownedcore have no idea it exists. I've got youtubemail from people saying "Thanks so much for telling me about OC!". Maybe OC needs a social media presence to make people aware of it.
Really, really old. I'll give you a clue. Most people know it as the meaning of life.
Yeah I work from home. I'm a professional gambler. Mostly nowadays that involves using "exploits" to beatonline casinos, bookmakers, even bingo rooms.
The gambling exploit profession. That whole idea is going to get a lot of people intrigued especially here on OwnedCore. Is there anything more about that you can share without jeopardizing your work? (How much you make, what kind of exploits, do you sell these exploits, anything really)
I could write a book on the subject. Actually I wrote two. They sold pretty well at the time, but the info is outdated now.I'd rather not say what they are because I used my real name for those books and have been trying to get my anonymity back.
Basically you find any kind of bet where the payoff is greater than the true odds. Like you get 3-1 on something which happens 50% of the time.
The ways to do this are as numerous as there are exploits.
Online this usually means signing up to multiple casinos and exploiting introductory bonus offers. So, say you sign up to a casino, deposit £100 and receive a £100 bonus. You then to have to wager £3000. I'd bet 1500 each on red and black and roulette, with a small covering stake on 0, and cash out with just under £100
profit. I made a lot of money doing this sort of play in the early years (2000-2005). It got a lot tougher as many people found out how lucrative it was.
The casinos responded by restricting the bonuses to slot games which have a very high house take. Most people quit at that point. I found some tricks to
reduce the risk and increase the profit from slots which are still largely unknown..
For a long while I also did what bookmakers call"correlated parlays". Say an online bookies offers even money on a sports team to win a match, and even money to be leading at half time. You could sometimes make partay bets where the odds of the first event happening are multiplied by the odds of the second event, so in this case if you bet £100 you'd get £300 back. These events aren't actually independent though-the team leading at half-time is much more likely
to win the match, and the bookie will lose a lot money if you keep making bets like this.
One of my favourite plays was a game called texas hold-em bonus poker which had a very complicated optimal strategy. Some elite gamblers figured out you could use a purpose-built computer to beat the game, but there was a problem-it was pretty slow inputting all the data . I managed to train myself to perform
the calculations in my head and could play three times as everyone else-I made a nice score that year with all the bonuses that were being offered for that
game exclusively.
Nowadays, a disturbing amount of money comes from, of all things, bingo. As with warcraft exploits, you do whatever works.
Basically you find any kind of bet where the payoff is greater than the true odds. Like you get 3-1 on something which happens 50% of the time.
The ways to do this are as numerous as there are exploits.
Online this usually means signing up to multiple casinos and exploiting introductory bonus offers. So, say you sign up to a casino, deposit £100 and receive a £100 bonus. You then to have to wager £3000. I'd bet 1500 each on red and black and roulette, with a small covering stake on 0, and cash out with just under £100
profit. I made a lot of money doing this sort of play in the early years (2000-2005). It got a lot tougher as many people found out how lucrative it was.
The casinos responded by restricting the bonuses to slot games which have a very high house take. Most people quit at that point. I found some tricks to
reduce the risk and increase the profit from slots which are still largely unknown..
For a long while I also did what bookmakers call"correlated parlays". Say an online bookies offers even money on a sports team to win a match, and even money to be leading at half time. You could sometimes make partay bets where the odds of the first event happening are multiplied by the odds of the second event, so in this case if you bet £100 you'd get £300 back. These events aren't actually independent though-the team leading at half-time is much more likely
to win the match, and the bookie will lose a lot money if you keep making bets like this.
One of my favourite plays was a game called texas hold-em bonus poker which had a very complicated optimal strategy. Some elite gamblers figured out you could use a purpose-built computer to beat the game, but there was a problem-it was pretty slow inputting all the data . I managed to train myself to perform
the calculations in my head and could play three times as everyone else-I made a nice score that year with all the bonuses that were being offered for that
game exclusively.
Nowadays, a disturbing amount of money comes from, of all things, bingo. As with warcraft exploits, you do whatever works.
I would describe myself as something "hardest working man in the exploit business" or possibly "one of the most all-round knowledgeable exploiters". I don't think there is anybody who spends more time researching than me-you'd have be completely insane. Most people also specialize in say pvp, duping, phase exploits, exploration etc, I don't, I love it all.
In terms of natural talent, no, I'm not the best. Leniox (Imperious on youtube) probably has the most natural talent. Votuus is very gifted. RAOV do some amazing stuff-coding-based hacks I barely understand. Tmanowen, someoneI see as the sort of Godfather of ownedcore always seem to be one step ahead on everything. Jacobskipper produced probably the best pvp exploit videos that will ever be produced. Shiekrunner did some amazing stuff with speed running dungeons. WizardTrokair has been the face of the exploration forum for years. Reznik, who seems to be a model editor now, paved the way for me to some extent by bring exploits to a large number of people. Logan Heath regulary produces exciting content-worth a look at his channel as you'll certainly like it if you like mine.
In terms of natural talent, no, I'm not the best. Leniox (Imperious on youtube) probably has the most natural talent. Votuus is very gifted. RAOV do some amazing stuff-coding-based hacks I barely understand. Tmanowen, someoneI see as the sort of Godfather of ownedcore always seem to be one step ahead on everything. Jacobskipper produced probably the best pvp exploit videos that will ever be produced. Shiekrunner did some amazing stuff with speed running dungeons. WizardTrokair has been the face of the exploration forum for years. Reznik, who seems to be a model editor now, paved the way for me to some extent by bring exploits to a large number of people. Logan Heath regulary produces exciting content-worth a look at his channel as you'll certainly like it if you like mine.
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