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    [Answer] Is Model Editing Bannable

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    Now before we start off this post is not meant to create a false sense security or a sense of panic. This post it meant to stop all the Questions about "Is model editing Bannable".

    [Types of Model Edits]
    Every model edit is pretty much split up into 2 categories Models(.m2) and Skins(.blp) If a mod has both of them consider it to be a Model as the model if the greater of the evil.

    [Skins]
    Skins do not affect game play, so it shouldn't be a problem. However, the way they must be implemented to be used is on the edge. Originally, files could be just dropped into the data folder and it would work, but like always... there are people who have to do bad things to games.

    Due to this exploitation, Blizzard made a few changes to help prevent simple model changes to bypass barriers. After patch 2.0 and beyond all MPQ files had to be named patch-_.mpq to work. And after Patch 2.3 An External Program had to be use to allow these patches.

    Is skins bannable? No one knows for sure, but some have been daring enough to ask GMs directly. In fact a person has talked to a GM in game confirming that it isn't against the rules. As you can see from this screen shot he took, as long as no one else can see your alterations (as in it doesn't affects other players - such as an exploit) it's ok. However, you can still argue that they're just a GM, who knows if they really know what the company position is on this matter.

    No one so far had been officially banned or mentioned that they were banned for using skins, but still some people are concerned of the thought. All I can say is, you at your own risk. But, skins have been out for a while.

    [Models]
    As for models... it's a bit more stricter in policy than skins. Due to Blizzard's short sightedness on fence and gate collisions built into only the model itself and exploiters... model switching has caused modding to take a few steps back. Why? because exploiters switch the gate models to a box or some other small object.

    Using model switches or skins to give yourself an edge or to exploit/bypass things is strictly prohibited! That means no skins that let you see your enemies from great distances, stealth, invisibility, etc (like having them all bright pink or something) herbs brightly colored for easy spotting, changing the size of nodes to be able to mine from greater distances, modifying walls or fence models to bypass them, etc. If it gives you an advantage in anyway it's against the ToS.

    If it's just a visual change (just for looks), as much as it may irritate Blizzard they aren't gonna pay much attention to it Because it does not exploit the game or other players.

    [Wrap Up]
    Blizzard's main focus is to stop hackers and exploiters. If you don't intend on using skins and models to exploit or hack you shouldn't have to worry about getting banned. That being said there are edits that will get you banned.

    IF YOU EDIT ANY OF THE FOLLOWING FILES YOU WILL GET BANNED

    World\Maps\HellfireRampart\HellfireRampart_28_34.adt
    World\Maps\PVPZone04\PVPZone04_30_29.adt
    DBFilesClient\CreatureModelData.dbc
    World\Maps\PVPZone04\PVPZone04_29_30.adt
    World\Maps\PVPZone01\PVPZone01_32_29.adt
    World\GENERIC\PassiveDoodads\ValentinesDay\ValentineBasket_01.m2
    World\Expansion02\Doodads\Stormpeaks\IceShards\FrostGiantIceShard04.M2
    World\AZEROTH\ELWYNN\PASSIVEDOODADS\Campfire\ElwynnCampfire.m2
    World\Maps\PVPZone01\PVPZone01_32_30.adt
    world\maps\stratholme\stratholme_38_25.adt
    world\maps\stratholme\stratholme_38_24.adt
    World\Maps\Kalimdor\Kalimdor_29_9.adt
    world\goober\g_fishingbobber.blp
    World\Generic\Human\Passive Doodads\BeerKegs\BeerKeg01_NoCollide.M2
    World\Generic\PASSIVEDOODADS\DuelingFlag\DuelingFlag.m2
    Last edited by Glitchy; 04-24-2009 at 08:24 PM.

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    Thanks Glitchy for this. +rep
    (how can I report this for sticky?)

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    Nice Glitchy...
    It's like everything u write (even when taken from external sites)...
    I just sit and stare like a dog watching the chicken wheels go round and round.
    Simply amazing.
    +rape

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    STICKY PL0X!!
    I've been giving too much rep this day, so, sorry

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    Nice idea


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    Finally. this makes me sleep better at night

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    I was crapping myself before if model edits were allowed!


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    Excellent thanks a lot for posting this.

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    Example

    Say for example, you changed a weapon to another weapon, but still had the same stats as the old weapon, is it bannable?

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    It is bannable but the chances of you getting caught is extremely low.
    Last edited by merfed; 02-14-2008 at 01:30 PM.

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    Ye it all depends on yourself, donīt go yell to everyone or even in whisper that you got the thunderfury when you just got some green weapon in your hand.

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    epic thread.



    for epic people.

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    After I've been reading this, I decided to ask a GM too,
    This is not approved by Blizzard, it's not legal, he told me to warn people i know about using them!
    So using it, is banable, but its more likely undetectable..
    This is both model editing, reskin etc..
    Got screenie's of GM chat.
    Last edited by Ruddb; 02-28-2008 at 11:33 AM.

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    Originally Posted by Ruddb View Post
    After I've been reading this, I decided to ask a GM too,
    This is not approved by Blizzard, it's not legal, he told me to warn people i know about using them!
    So using it, is banable, but its more likely undetectable..
    This is both model editing, reskin etc..
    Got screenie's of GM chat.
    First off asking a GM is not a good idea becuase it exposes you. And Model editing isn't approved by Blizzard. But like i said, Blizz is not handing out Bans for Every model edit that people use. They go more on a case to case base if you are reported. If you are reported for Model edits then most likely you are going to get a warning/ban. Just don't use Model Edits for dumb stuff like Cheating in WSG or Helping you AFK in av.

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    I dont use model edit's of any kind on live server's.
    - I was asking if it were approved, or not banneable to use before i used it on live server's ( I dont use it )
    So there's not anything to expose.

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