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    ok nice guide and also First reply

    The Art of Jewelcrafting
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    Awsome, +2

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    Great guide! Thanks

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    well witten guide in my eyes. Only downside is that some of the screenshots are in german..

    ... sorry would have +rep'd..

    But somehow my account is now "new" instead of like 1 y.o :O

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    very nice, im a jc newbie, so should be really helpful thx alot

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    Originally Posted by Explisivia View Post
    well witten guide in my eyes. Only downside is that some of the screenshots are in german..

    ... sorry would have +rep'd..

    But somehow my account is now "new" instead of like 1 y.o :O
    I hate people like you.
    Oh, a picture is in german, doesn't mean you can't see what's going on.
    Btw... You have 4 posts, means you can't even give rep. Stop QQ and start earning rep yourself, if that doesn't require too much memory of your brain aswell.

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    Originally Posted by chriller View Post
    i hate people like you.
    oh, a picture is in german, doesn't mean you can't see what's going on.
    btw... You have 4 posts, means you can't even give rep. Stop qq and start earning rep yourself, if that doesn't require too much memory of your brain aswell.
    it is people like you i hate

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    Originally Posted by Chriller View Post
    I hate people like you.
    Oh, a picture is in german, doesn't mean you can't see what's going on.
    Btw... You have 4 posts, means you can't even give rep. Stop QQ and start earning rep yourself, if that doesn't require too much memory of your brain aswell.

    Did I say I didn't understand ? For your information Mr.Flametard I read/talk german pretty well..

    I was thinking of others.

    For the second part. My account WAS over 1 year old. Had ALOT OF REP.. Now it's listed as new.. No idea why.

    Atleast try and look smart without failing next time please.. ok ?

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    Very good guide. Thank you for posting it.

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    Well written guide. +Rep

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    Flame wars? Hope not 0.o
    What do I stand for? Well... If I sat all the time, my butt would hurt. P.s. I've had my avatar as Garaa in a panda suit since before MMOwned had a panda mascot! :jawdrop:

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    You write very well in English, but here are some quick spelling and word usage revisions I made:

    The Art of Jewelcrafting


    Changelog:
    13.09.09: Initial Release. Please let me know if the pictures are viewable.

    Index:

    1. Preamble
    2. Why did you write this guide?
    3. Which addons do you use?
    4. Do I need a mule?
    5. Dragonseyes or Recipes?
    6. Which Recipes Should I buy?
    7. Live Profits
    8. Buy, Craft, Sell
    9. Beancount and Shitlist
    10. Appraising in the Trade Channel
    11. Prospecting
    12. Icy Prism
    13. Disenchant Rings
    14. Farming
    15. Epic Rings/Necklaces
    16. Daily Business



    Preamble




    This guide is written under the creative commons license. You may distribute it in any way, as long as you mention who wrote it. Its me, d0tc0m. I wrote it mainly for it to be posted on mmowned.com. Nothing is copied, 100% is handwritten by me.



    Why did you write this guide?




    Hm, maybe to be helpful. Maybe to practice some english(im german *g*). Maybe to show ppl how cool i am. Maybe just for fun. I dont really know *g*. Im a JC since wotlk came out. Thats not that long. As i hit 450, i was hoping to earn enough money back from it to just fit the profession leveling cost. Well, i got that back in just a couple of days, for now i got several chars riding a chopper, powerleveled all other professions for fun, or lets simply say i got way more money than usefull for the game *g*. I lost my ambitions to not spread knowledge on jc because i now dont focus on it anymore. jc is powerful, but its only one facette of many other gold making opportunities. Its like in real life: As you get rich, its hard not to get richer *g*


    Which addons do you use?




    The essential addons are auctioneer, market watcher and advanced tradeskill window(atsw). I need them for profit calculation.





    Auctioneer is fskn bloatware but its default config is ok, so wen dont need to adjust that much. just do whats youre personal flavor, like changing the undercut to 00g00s01c or disabling all the nearly useless stat modules. We will use auctioneer only for:

    • - Getting rawgem best live prices
    • - Getting enchant mats best live prices
    • - Getting cut gems best live prices
    • - Having the beancounter watch our sales and timeouts





    ATSW is just awesome. It lets you make a queue for cutting gems, adding the needet rawgems summed up in a list. It also displays the prices of raws and cuts(via auc:informant tooltip). You can also categorise your recipes. I did so. all the lowlvl shit is in a seperate category which is minimized. all my (lv80)epic gems and all my (lv80)raregems are each in a seperate category. I also sort out gems that simply dont sell well by adjusting them in a categoriy called shitlist. Thats just quicker access, i love it.





    Ark Inventory’s key-feature for us, is the item tracking for alts. While having arkinv active on main and mule, your tooltip will show how many items of the selected one are on main/mules. This is for example great if you need to know if your mule already has 2 runed scarlet rubys to sell or maybe needs one more.
    Of course there is more. ArkInv has a category function as well. As you can see in my screenshot, you can create categories yourself and adjust items to them.





    As “Market watcher” released, i was quite suprised how usefull this addon is. In addition to the pure profit gems, we got several recipes that only sometimes proc profit when there are specific market prices present. For selling disenchant mats out of a shadowmight ring, you need low earth/shadow and high dust. Market watcher quickly lists that up for you. Its handy to track any kind of price actually. I eg. use to to remember myself on price evolutions of my cuts (which can be quite frustrating *g*)

    Of course there are many more addons which i use but didnt mention. I didnt do this for bloating issues. Addons that enhance existing functions like postal (get your mails quicker) are useful, bot not essentially needet in a jc guide. Use addons along your flavor :-)

    Do I need a mule?






    Yes you do. To give myself as an example, ppl simply hate me *g*. I got around 100 gems in the ah on a daily basis, always undercutting the cheapest seller. That can be very frustrating for others. I often recieve mails and /w’s from other players asking me to stop for some days. If they’d know who i am, i wouldnt find groups anymore.


    Dragoneyes or recipes?





    Simply as that: recipes! Start selling dragoneyes as soon as you have bought every single recipe thats buyable. I dont think this will happen before cataclysm *g* Dragoneyes sell for 100g on most servers(wowhead price). A single recipe for a raregem needs 3jeweler marks, so its worth aroung 300g. Buy the recipe, craft the gem on daily basis and check your beancounter after a month. You will see why you bought the recipe
    Math Assuming 30g profit per gem: 2 gems/day = 60g/day*30days = 1800g – 300g = 1500g proft per recipe/month.


    Which recipes should i buy?





    The answer for me was: All! Let me explain.
    I first had 2 red recipes. I saw 2 Stacks of red raws cheap in the ah and bought them. I needet a full week to get rid of the gems cause i could only offer 2 sorts of them parrallel. If i had put the full 2 stacks crafted in the ah at once, most of them would timeout and i had lost my starting payment. If im able to craft 7 different Rubys, this isnt a problem for me. I just craft 2 of each different one, be the cheapest seller each time while having a lower risk to have my gems on timeout.
    Of course there are recipes that sell better than others, but this isnt that much of a problem.
    Math: We assumed 1500g profit per recipe/month. We assumed 100g/dragoneye. So 1 successfull recipe will accumulate 5 bad recipes.
    In order to have many profitable open auctions on a daily basis, you simply need a widely possibillity to craft the same gem. You will never know which rawgem is cheap in the ah tommorow, you need to be able to react on anyone. While buying recipes just keep an eye of this. dont buy 7red cuts in a row.

    See the live profits:

    First you need market prices. Do a full auctioneer scan before doing anything else. Then, open your advanced tradeskill Window. Select one of your gems on the left. On the right side, you will have the description icon on wich gem is needed and which will result:




    Check both tooltips and watch the line "Undercut”.





    If the undercut prize from the gem is lower than the undercut prize from the craftet gem, this is profit! In these 2 pics, its shit. The rawgem undercut is 166g, the cut gem’s undercut is 144g.


    Buy, Craft, Sell


    Now that you know the profits, get them! For every gem thats profit, insert a small amound of cuts into the query of atsw. After you did it, check the reagents button:





    Get yourself into the AH. Buy everything thats needed in your reagents list. You calced your profit based on the cheapest gem of each a sort. If youre buying eg. 12 Rubys, watch if youre able to buy 12 rubys at this price. Then, simply retrieve your gems, craft them and sell them through the appraiser. Youre now the cheapest seller while still making profit.


    Beancount and shitlist





    Of course, every server is unique and each one got different competition. There are server where you can sell 20resilence gems 5times a day, and there a servers where 8 of 10 will timeout. Your weapons here are beancounter and atsw. Here’s how i do:
    Once a month, i check beancounter for timeout auctions. Gems that timeout more than 5 out of 10 get on a seperate selfmade category in atsw called “shitlist”. Once in a month, i check my shitlist for updates by cutting each one them and try to sell them again. if it sold, theyre out, if not the stay in the list. You need to be not staticly selling the same cuts, my shitlist looks different every month.


    Appraising in tradechannel





    Depends on how you do it. If you just post your profession and write “mats + lil pocket money”, you will be raped. Ppl will take 20cuts for mats+20g. So if you decide to spam /2 , consider taking fixed prices like 20g+mats/rare, 30g+mats/epic.
    ps: dont sell your cd *g*


    Prospecting





    Prospecting is Math and Luck. I never liked profit based on luck, so i didnt often Prospect. The only scenario for me to prospect is, if there a simply not enough cheap rawgems in the ah for me to do my daily 100 auctions. This didnt happen often for me. Anyways, lets talk about prospecting:


    Saronite Ore: Thats what i prospect whenever i need more gems.Its cheap (should be around 15g on most servers) and the procs are ok.


    Titanium Ore: I once spendet 3kg for 10 Stacks and prospected them. After crafting and selling through the ah, i made around 1600g. That just sucked. Ill never prospect titanium ore again. Better let the noobs prospect it and buy the gems though the ah *g*

    Some guy from warcraftecon also made a spreadsheet on prospecting. I dont like econ spreadsheets because i hate to constantly update the prices insidem. Anyway, if you want it take a look [here]:
    http://warcraftecon.net/ProspectingGuide.xls


    Icy prism:




    I do my cd every day. Its worth it. Things to consider if doing or not:

    • Possibillity of getting epic gems
    • Guaranteed 3 rare gems

    Lets assume we got only raregems inside(math with wowhead prices):
    20g/Monarch Topaz, 5g/Forest Emerald, 10g/Sky Sapphire, 60g/Scarlet Ruby, 15g/Twilight Opal, 30g/Autumn's Glow => 140g/6gems = 23g median gem price *3 = 69g median icy prism worth ( + 4,7% chance for epic gems + 10% chance for extra dragoneye)
    50g/Frozen Org + 2g/Chalcedony*3 + 1g/Shadow Crystal*3 + 1g/Dark Jade*3 = 62G/Icy Prism. Dont forget to mention that frozen orbs are currently not worth 50g.
    So its nearly guaranteed win.


    Disenchant Rings:

    Math + luck, always worth a try. Anyway, dissing rings is mainly used by jc’s that still need to flyfarm ore for their profits. They get a lot of earth/shadow + green gems they need to sell anyway. Lets do math with wowhead prices:


    Mats: 7g/Eternal Earth + 5g/Eternal Shadow =>12g. Sells for 15g average.


    Profit: worth 15g if bought Disenchanting brings average 2,5 Infinite Dust (worth each 4g, 75% chance) => 2,5*4g = 10g



    Mats: 7g/Eternal Earth * 2 =>14g.
    Profit: worth 15g if bought. Dissing for 2,5 Infinite Dust (worth each 4g, 75% chance) or better => 2,5*4g = 10g


    Mats: 7g/Eternal Earth + 2g/Bloodstone 1g/Sun Crystall *2 + 2g/Calchedony *2 => 13g
    Profit: worth10g, disenchants for Dream Shard (100%) worth 10g


    Mats: 7g/Eternal Earth + 2g/Huge Citrine *2 + 1g/Dark Jade * 2 => 13g
    Profit: worth 40g if bought, disenchants for Dream Shard (100%) worth 10g


    Mats: 24s/Crystallized Earth*2 + 2g/Bloodstone =>2g48s
    Profit: worth 5g if bought, disenchants for 1,5dust (75%) worth 6g


    Mats: 24s/Crystallized Earth*2 + 2g/Chalcedony =>2g48s
    Profit: worth 5g if bought, disenchants for 1,5dust (75%) worth 6g


    Mats: 24s/Crystallized Earth*2 + 1g/Citrine =>1g48s
    Profit: worth 5g if bought, disenchants for 1,5dust (75%) worth 6g


    Mats: 24s/Crystallized Earth*2 + 1g/Sun Crystall =>1g48s
    Profit: worth 5g if bought, disenchants for 1,5dust (75%) worth 6g


    Farming:





    Not worth a lot of text. I you need starting money, ok. If you got some k’s, just buy the raw mats and dont waste time farming. Your g/time median while farming isnt that good.


    Epic Rings/Necklaces





    You may buy epic ring recipes for 6 dalaran tokens. I never bought them, i dont think this is rentable. 6tokens means 1200g for a recipe. Assumiung to sell 1 Ring per week and 100g profit you would still need 3 months to accumulate the costs. Compares with cutting gems daily business, this would only slow me down.
    Anyway, lets do math with wowhead prices. Well take Titanium Earthguard Chain for the example:
    Titanium Earthguard Chain: 690g for 2 Titanium Bars ( 2*30g ) + 4 Dragons Eye ( 4*100g ) + 6 Eternal Life ( 6*10g) + 6 Eternal Earth ( 6* 7g) + Frozen Orb (50g) => 690g income vs. 612g mats => 78g profit that mostly wont sell daily for a 6 token recipe!


    Daily business





    Not really a guide, but heres how my day looks like:

    1. Login Mule
    2. Check mail for solds, timeouts
    3. Login Jeweler
    4. Scan the ah, calculate profits
    5. Do Icy prism, buy profit raw mats
    6. Cut profit raw gems, create rings etc. send to mule/disenchanter.
    7. Do the jeweler’s daily (+ buy new recipe each 4th day)
    8. Login disenchanter
    9. disenchant jeweler rings + send to mule
    10. Login mule, sell stuff


    That should be a pretty finish for this guide. Any additions/corrections are always welcome. I hope some JC’s learned a bit and can make use of what i put my time in :-)
    I didn't go through and do a thorough revision. If you would like me to do that, let me know and I will. I just did some FoxReplace (firefox addon) on some consistently incorrectly spelled words and such.
    Last edited by Confidence; 09-16-2009 at 06:58 PM.

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    Good guide but kinda confusing :/

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    Thanks Confidence, your got my rep for today =).
    Whats confusing emo?

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    Originally Posted by d0tc0m View Post
    Thanks Confidence, your got my rep for today =).
    Whats confusing emo?
    Sure thing. Thanks for the rep, and totally thought I repped you for the guide. I will edit it further over the next couple of days.

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